Create A Race Series, Oppo

"hsv" (hsv) 08/18/2015 at 18:32 • Filed to: None

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A simple question really - create whatever comes to mind.

What are your basic regulations? What would the season look like?

I’ve recently been pondering the idea of a 3 race calendar, running the Nordschleife and two other randomly selected international racing venues with historic significance. The rules for entry? You must provide evidence that the car you have entered was originally deemed illegal. The car must not have been altered from that originally illegal specification - it’s the only place where every banned car can actually run.

Alternatively, you could just run this:

Tohru > hsv 08/18/2015 at 18:37

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24 Heures de Limons. Contact allowed.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > hsv 08/18/2015 at 18:38

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Time Attack, but with land yachts that maintain all cushy interior trimmings and stock suspension.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > hsv 08/18/2015 at 18:44

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A true Formula 1. Restriction on overall dimensions of the car, no driver aids, open cockpit and wheels, max displacement 3 litres. Beyond that, do what you like.

Ideally a race at each of the classic F1 tracks, dumping the third world dictatorships tour. But more realistically you’d need new tracks with much more runoff (flyoff) space.

Blondude > hsv 08/18/2015 at 18:45

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Full-contact offroad forklift racing (with the forks removed of course).

f86sabre > hsv 08/18/2015 at 18:46

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From my post from last night. B-29 bomber racing. There would be two classes. Stock and modified. Modifications allowed are upgrades to the piston engines, but no jets. Wing sweep up to 10 degrees allowed. Stock fuselage must be maintained. Ovals, cross country and veriable altitude “road races” will be held.

and 100 more > hsv 08/18/2015 at 18:53

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Full-contact recumbent bike racing?

Seriously, tho... PT Cruiser Cup.

6-car, wheel-to-wheel, 5-lap heats. Stock & GT classes. No safety modifications. $5000 maximum cap on vehicle investment (spreadsheet approval and documentation required prior to race!) Daily drivers, trailer queens, and back-yard shitcans all welcome.

MultiplaOrgasms > hsv 08/18/2015 at 18:58

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I have a few ideas...

1) Land Yacht rallying: Minimum required length 220 inches, minimum weight 4500lbs, minimum engine size 450cui, with many rally lights.

2) Spec Move:

Self explanatory

3) Buscar: Like Nascar, but with Buses. No contact (well more like limited contact) rule. Buses have to be based on a production bodyshell, with 1500hp Truck racing engines, no speed limiter (on oval tracks), occasional events on road courses, 100mph speed limit on those. Multiple classes, Class 1 vehicles are short buses, Class 2 is for articulating buses, and Class 3 is reserved for double deckers. My favourite idea of the lot.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > f86sabre 08/18/2015 at 19:03

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Open it up to any WW2 vintage 4 engined aircraft. I want to see B17s, Lancasters and Sunderlands mixing it up in there.

LongbowMkII > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 08/18/2015 at 19:05

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i think with modern technology you’d need to reduce it even more, 2l. or ban pnuematic computer controlled valves.

also, no external wings.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > hsv 08/18/2015 at 19:12

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How about “additive” racing. Take stock hatches and only allow additive mods, stock engine internals but you can add all the boost you want. Open bolt on aero, but the stock body must be fully retained. Factory wheels, but open tires.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > LongbowMkII 08/18/2015 at 19:20

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As long as it’s comfortably the fastest class in the world, open to radical technical innovation, and has a minimally complex ruleset, I’m fine with it. It’ll come down to speed vs safety vs runoff space, particularly if you allow active aero (which I would).

Actually, now I think about it, make displacement and engine technology open, but restrict top speed based on crash test results - the faster a hit you can survive, the faster you can go. That would encourage safety innovation.

911e46z06 > hsv 08/18/2015 at 19:37

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Spec hayabusa-powered smart car championship

Bobololo23 is waiting for the FT86 to come > hsv 08/18/2015 at 19:40

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1. The Revival of Transcontinental Airplane Racing

2. The Creation of the Anything Goes Racing Series, Racing on any sort of tracks and any sorts of vehicles as long as they pass safety inspection

3. The Creation of Transcontinental Airplane Car Racing, in which teams must fly their plane to a predetermined location in which they will unload the car, race a set amount of laps on a track before rushing to the airport in order to get to the next location

hsv > 911e46z06 08/18/2015 at 19:46

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There’s a normal Smart championship, but Hayabusas would be fun.

Wheelerguy > hsv 08/19/2015 at 00:37

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I present you, Dakar truck 24-hr mine rallycross. Contact allowed. All trucks must be filled because there’s not pit lane. First to the finish or last man standing, whichever comes first.

A modification: the trucks may be converted to paintball technicals.

TheAnswerIsAlwaysCitroën > hsv 08/19/2015 at 06:24

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A formula-1 like series, but with more technical freedom. Piston engines, rotary engines, turbines all allowed - turbo, supercharged or NA, with conversion factors between them to keep the field somewhat even. Conversion factors can be adjusted after each season as required.

Okay, fairly standard stuff so far. But the goal here is to avoid the three main problems with such a formula:

1. High costs, even for teams at the back of the grid.

2. Lack of technical development across the sport, due to lack of openness and the introduction of more and more technical restrictions to keep the field even.

3. Large speed disparity between high-budget and low-budget teams.

How do we avoid this? Simple: “Open source” the designs!

All teams are required, before the start of each race, to release all CAD files etc for the current version of their car, and all telemetry data is made public after the race. Yes, that means that teams are allowed to copy from each other. But implementation takes time, so there is still an incentive to shove money into development if you want to be at the forefront. It does mean, however, that small teams can still have a reasonably competitive car. Alternatively, if it turns out to make the teams too close, the release of the specs could be delayed by a set amount of time (after each season?).

IMHO, it would also make it a lot more interesting for the fans, with ample opportunity to compare cars and drivers and delve into the technical details - stuff that, for the most part, is kept secret today.

Illegitimus Prime > hsv 08/19/2015 at 07:02

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Spec Move has been suggested, but I think Suzuki would be a better make for that, considering the original displacement of the engines they shove in these things and their bike heritage. Call it Spec R. Strip interior, cage and swap in GSX 1300 R engines.