Rallycross; You're Doing It Right

"hsv" (hsv) 08/06/2015 at 20:43 • Filed to: Rallycross

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This is Anton van de Kamp, pictured at Valkenswaard in 1972, piloting his Ford V4 powered Lola T210C.

The move to ban all open-top cars and 4WD specials was a sensible one by the FIA, but the first 6 years of organised competition before the Embassy/ERA ERC were ones of great diversity. This will never happen again, and many would argue that there’s no need for it to - but that only makes this one of the purest, if not the purest example of a rallycross car. Nothing was banned, there were no clear-cut categories. This was the peak of boundary pushing.

This may just forever remain the purest rallycross car in history.

Milky > hsv 08/06/2015 at 20:53

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We seriously need 1, just 1 form of racing thats a free for all. Bare minimum rules needed for safety but thats it.

(GIS’d future racing and ran across a classmates render, had to use it)

hsv > Milky 08/06/2015 at 20:57

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Technology has unfortunately reached the point where it would not be viable, at all. The company with the most money would dominate, and there would be no reason for anyone else to turn up. Class 1 was probably the last thing to come near a series with very few limitations (it had to be a touring car of course, and a few key things were specified, but development was free and so was aerodynamics below the wheel centreline). Add a cost cap to the framework and a few dimension restrictions though, and you’d have something workable.

MultiplaOrgasms > Milky 08/06/2015 at 21:16

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No we don’t. An unlimited style racing series would be waay too expensive. The main reason why the old DTM failed was the cost explosion completely out of proportion for a regional series. Those Class 1 cars even had to vaguely resemble production cars and use production based engines. Everytime the governing institutions gave the manufacturers liberal regulations it ended disastrously. In an unlimited race series the participant with the biggest budget would win, which makes it unfair competition for creative/innovative but underfunded constructors. Great for testing out new ideas, terrible for spectators. If you want some free for all racing, go watch some hillclimb events. Thats where you find 20 year old hatchbacks “competing” against open wheelers and prototype race cars, but all on a mostly private level.

Milky > hsv 08/06/2015 at 21:30

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But the future, I need it now.

Milky > MultiplaOrgasms 08/06/2015 at 21:30

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I can’t hear you over how awesome the future looks.

Baeromez > MultiplaOrgasms 08/06/2015 at 23:08

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Well then just put a budget stipulation in the rules.

TA4K > hsv 08/07/2015 at 00:38

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How about unlimited development, but a budget cap? That would really encourage innovation while mitigating cost which would most easily trickle down to consumers, and smaller teams or manufacturers wouldn’t be left behind either.

MultiplaOrgasms > Baeromez 08/07/2015 at 06:41

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It wouldn’t be unlimited anymore if we did that.

MultiplaOrgasms > Milky 08/07/2015 at 06:45

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Fuck that shit, bring back Group A and real touring cars.

Milky > MultiplaOrgasms 08/07/2015 at 09:04

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