This is a thing that pisses me off

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 08/04/2015 at 18:05 • Filed to: Rant

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Attacking parents for kids bad behavior. Guess what? Sometimes its just the kid, believe it or not kids kinda come a certain way. Also, Screw you for your “its okay that I’m on the earth but how dare you inconvenience me with your offspring” attitude. Same goes for people who complain about kids on planes. Look, you had parents too, and guess what? I’ll bet you sure are glad your parents decided to take the plunge and decide to be a parent not know how they would do or how you would turn out. cause you never caused them grief I’m sure. Seriously, screw this whole “everyone is stupid but me” attitude. If you are a parent you learn REAL quick what a dumb mentality that is to have.

I acknowledge that there is responsibility on the parent, I’m not absolving them of that, but give them the benefit of the doubt unless you can proof they don’t deserve it alright? Also, not cool kid...at all...but as a parent I can tell you that kids are slippery suckers and sometimes despite your best intentions they get loose and explore. Thing about kids is...they don’t understand the world like we do, cut them some slack.

Maybe this guy is right, his parents should have used a condom, but then we wouldn’t have his razor sharp parenting advice.

Rant out.

TheHondaBro > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:10

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Only a Canadian would apologize after insulting someone.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:11

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Here’s the way I look at it:

Kid misbehaves or creates a disturbance? It happens.

It continues and parents are so stressed/fried they ignore it? Now there’s a problem.

MonkeePuzzle > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:14

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such rude behaviour! so uncanadian!

HammerheadFistpunch > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 08/04/2015 at 18:14

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I don’t follow, if the parents are stressed and fried its probably because the kid came prewired for mayhem and they are literally worn out from trying to parent...so...yes there is a problem, no its probably not the parents.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:23

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Not a problem with the parenting per say, but a problem with the fact that the parent won’t remove the child. Only applies when the child is a continuous disturbance, so not in the video.

bob and john > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:24

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I dunno man. A good chunk of ‘parents’ i see these days are too busy with their cellphones and purses. That was pretty long for the kid to be out

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:25

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Probably not the best video to use here. This guy balancing like 5 feet in the air and a kid does something that can easily injure the guy up there, and potentially the kid to if that guy falls on him. Sure he said some rude stuff but he has every right to be unhappy.

HammerheadFistpunch > bob and john 08/04/2015 at 18:29

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and you can always tell the ones that don’t have kids. im not saying there aren’t bad parents, im saying its not actually possible to prevent this kind of thing with a high degree of success and people these days are all to quick to jump down the parents throats. I mean, adults do stupid stuff all the time and they get less crap than the parents of kids who don’t know any better.

djmt1 > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:31

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Given that I’m seeing shit like this on a daily basis. http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/04/mot… My tolerance for shitty parenting is at an all time low so I might be a bit biased however I don’t blame the guy for the outburst. Was it right, no but I do get why it happened and at least he had the good grace to apologise. I get parenting is hard but when you’re out in public, control your kids man or something like this might happen.

HammerheadFistpunch > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 08/04/2015 at 18:31

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I went down that train of though too but...he’s a street performer performing a dangerous trick in a public place without any concern for his or others safety. If a crowd hadn’t gathered around him and someone walked by and he lost his balance because he was startled...whos fault would both their injuries be?

HammerheadFistpunch > djmt1 08/04/2015 at 18:33

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I guess my big point is “control your kids” is like saying “never get in a car accident man!”, easier said than done and its only when you have kids you realize it. You’ll notice in the video above the child turns back, i suspect, because her mother has realized in the split second she wasn’t watching her she slipped away and she is frantically calling her back. Kids are sneaky and you...literally...cannot keep yours eyes on them fulltime, its not actually possible.

jariten1781 > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:34

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I’d give weird sky rolling board guy a pass. Would have been more teachable (and humanizing) if he’d just stuck with the ‘apologize kid’ schtick, but getting shoved while on a ladder gives you a pass to be a bit of an ass.

HammerheadFistpunch > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 08/04/2015 at 18:35

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like I said before, there is a lot on a parents shoulders and they should do all they can...sometimes its not enough.

Funktheduck > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:36

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Didn’t know a Canadian could be mean.

I’m becoming much more tolerant of kids as I get older.

I have zero tolerance for parents who don’t correct their kids after the fact or during. Or when parents encourage bad behaviors.

Example: kid throwing a hissy fit in the middle of a restaurant because he can’t have ice cream for dinner or something. Parent chooses the ignore child route making everyone suffer vs removing the child.

Example 2: parents that either encourage or give the ok for their kids to run up to me when I have dogs. This happens a lot. Even dogs that like kids won’t necessarily like a group of strange kids running at them. I’ve actually had to yell at kids to stop running at me/dogs because they wouldn’t listen to me when I tried being calm/polite.

But generally speaking if a kid does something it's because they're curious or no one taught them not to. Some kids are just difficult. We all do stupid stuff, just hope we learn from it.

djmt1 > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:39

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I’d say it is more like “make sure your dog won’t bite me” since a car can’t think for itself (yet) but I do get how hard it is to stop kids wandering off in public. First time I was left with a kid in a public space, she kept climbing into random cars. Fortunately I was the Mercedes Benz museum so kidnapping was highly unlikely. I just think having a go at him after he apologised is a bit harsh.

HammerheadFistpunch > Funktheduck 08/04/2015 at 18:42

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wait until you have kids, it all changes. Its one of the strange things about this life, we are kids and we completely forget or aren’t aware of how much trouble we cause our parents and those around them, then we become adults and we expect others to understand the world as we do and comport themselves in accordance with our understanding of the world, then we have kids and we realize how terrible we all were to our parents and how hard they tried and our understanding of the world changes again.

re: the dogs thing, we always make sure our kids ask if its okay if they pet the dog, or ask for them if they can’t. It probably is mostly due to the fact that my wife hates dogs on account of her being attacked as a child in a park (dog came to her)

HammerheadFistpunch > jariten1781 08/04/2015 at 18:44

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it was a bad thing for the kid to do, no question, i guess my beef is with the general attitude that prevails when the crowd cheers him for the condom joke. That’s not a cool thing to say, and its not even close to the right attitude to have...at least he recognizes it and apologizes.

Racescort666 > Funktheduck 08/04/2015 at 18:44

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I always ask people if I can pet their dogs...

...and sometimes girlfriends.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:44

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The kid didn’t even do anything terrible. Was probably just excited. It wasn’t like the kid messed with the performer.

Some people are just way too hypersensitive.

EDIT: I looked at the video in full screen mode and it looked like the kid just wanted to hold the platform steady to help the performer. He definitely didn’t seem to do anything intentionally bad.

HammerheadFistpunch > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 08/04/2015 at 18:46

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This “be a parent man” Attitude is the new thing. You be a parent, and tell me how perfectly you do. it reminds me of this story I’ve read about a women in line at an airport with crying kids that was getting crap from all sides “cmon lady control your kids!” and then instead of complaining an older man got out of line, walked up to her and helped her with her bags and entertain the kids until she could get their ticket situation sorted out..then he got back into line. people need to get over themselves

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:50

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Especially if you have more than one of them...

jariten1781 > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:52

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The vibe I got from the crowd was sort of an ‘ick...this is an uncomfortable bad situation’ with a few folks clapping. If I was there I would have walked, I can understand why the guy went too far, doesn’t mean I’d condone it or throw some pittance in his hat.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 18:57

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I am a parent... have two kids. And I think you misunderstood me. What I meant is it’s the performer and others that were being hypersensitive. Personally I think the performer deserved a big FUCK YOU from the parents after the condom comment.

I agree that it’s ridiculous how some people (typically those without kids) expect kids to be perfect all the time and if they do even a minor thing that’s out of line, they go into “control your kids you bad parents” mode. And this video was one of those cases.

And the “be a parent man” attitude isn’t new. I personally encountered this bullshit over a decade ago when my kids were small.

One time, when my then-wife and I were dealing with a temper tantrum, some old bitch made a negative comment, and my then-wife (rightfully) majorly told her off.

Now that I think back to it, it was kind of funny.

HammerheadFistpunch > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 08/04/2015 at 19:07

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I understand, Im agreeing with you.

Shankems > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 19:17

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It is never just the kid. Children are 100% the result of the parents action/inaction except in the case of mental defect. Take responsibility for your desire to make another human being and quit whining. Can’t handle it? Shouldn’t have had it.

Funktheduck > Racescort666 08/04/2015 at 19:22

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You're supposed to ask. Not tell a small group of 8 year olds it's ok to run at a stranger and his dogs.

E92M3 > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 19:27

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I think he was mostly trying to work the crowd. That said the growing intolerance of children by non parents is annoying. Especially on planes. I admit i used to hate hearing a screaming baby on a plane. Shut that kid up, “why are these people even flying?” are thoughts that came to mind. Having your own completely changes your perception of the world. Not everyone flying with kids is going on vacation either. I remember flying with my son when he was 9 months old because my brother-in-law killed himself.

soto > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 19:37

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Fuck that, parents didn't care or make any attempt to control the little shit, so YES the parents suck as well. They deserved all of that shaming.

Funktheduck > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 19:39

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Yeah. Like I said I get more tolerant as I get older and deal with more kids. Still learning though

HammerheadFistpunch > Shankems 08/04/2015 at 20:05

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So...This is the attitude that I’m talking about. Can I get your parents email so I can tell them it’s their fault for raising such a willfully ignorant child? Since you are wholly a product of thier upbringing I would like to deal with it at the source. All joking aside there are easier ways to say

Hey I’m between 16 and 25 and don’t have kids. Despite this I’m a master parent and you would be stupid for not taking to hear my sage wisdom.

Lol, pass.

HammerheadFistpunch > E92M3 08/04/2015 at 20:09

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“I know what good parenting is” said every non parent ever.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 20:12

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Worse yet is the parent that takes their kids to a very clearly adult venue, and then proceeds to pay no attention to them while they run around. Finally the grandma has to step in to take care of the kids.

Yes, this happened this weekend at a drinking establishment that was outside. So annoying. Sorry I’m not sorry.

HammerheadFistpunch > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 08/04/2015 at 20:17

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Taking young kids out drinking is a parent fail

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 20:18

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Yup, 100%

bob and john > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 20:45

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i’m focusing more on this example then anything else.

for the most part around me, parents do control the kids pretty well. but there will always be that ONE parent with the scream/hissy fit child and doesnt do anything about it. They piss me off to no end.

E92M3 > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 08/04/2015 at 21:02

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Luckily most around here don’t allow anyone under 21 to be there period. Unless it’s a restaurant of course.

Shankems > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 21:30

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What am I being willfully ignorant of? The SELF INFLICTED difficulties of parents the world over? I have no delusions of being a master parent if I were to have a child and I offer no advice to parents.

There is no wisdom being offered, there is no criticism, there is just the simple statement of some people have annoying children.

HammerheadFistpunch > Shankems 08/04/2015 at 21:41

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Not a parent therefore ignorant about the”fact”that kids are completely the product of parenting and not endowed with their own personality traits, and your assertion makes it willful. Willfully ignorant

Shankems > HammerheadFistpunch 08/04/2015 at 21:48

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Children are overwhelmingly like their parents. Parents just don’t see it because they are too close and blinded by their love.

If you want an objective assessment of an individual, you never ask the parent.

HammerheadFistpunch > Shankems 08/04/2015 at 22:16

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I might have believed this before I had my 2nd. They are very VERY different people. the fact is that the nature/nurture argument has been around a long time but the good science says its not either, but both. I mean, if it were 100% nurture then no good people could come from bad parents, or vise versa. Come to think of it, its the same as saying that a person only learns to be gay...and good look with that argument. Parental bias doesn’t hide the obvious fact that 2 children can be from the same people and be very different, in fact it often flies in the face of that bias. until you have children of your own you have zero authority to make such blanket statements as you have, and when you do (if you choose to, I don’t care one way or the other) then you will probably happily eat those words, I know I did.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > HammerheadFistpunch 08/05/2015 at 13:39

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Sometimes kids do stupid things. It happens.

However, if the parent doesn’t take some action (generally this means removing the child from the situation so as not to disrupt other people, but it can also mean apologizing to others, amongst other things), then it’s harder to have sympathy for the parent dealing with the situation. And there are times, you can’t take the child elsewhere, like on an airplane.

And some of it is using common sense as a parent. My parents did not take my brother and I *anywhere* together between ages 4-7, because we fought all the time. They worked around it, because they weren’t going to take us somewhere just to cause a scene.

After that though, if either of us acted up, we got one reminder to stop acting like imbeciles or we’d get a time out in the car. There were a few times that we had to do time outs in the car because of acting like rotten kids.

I don’t know how I’d deal with my own kids (because I don’t have any), but I do know it can be a challenge at times.