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"Oran J Sands III" (merlyyn) 07/30/2015 at 14:07 • Filed to: None

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I just found my self reading about the GT350R and that amazing motor and I thought “what if...”

What if the new Ford GT did well at LeMans but it just ain’t enough to win class and Ford was still longing for the overall victory? What if that flat-plane crank made it into the new GT and was suddenly pushing over 1000hp? Just like the 427 getting wedged into the original GT40. Massive power from good old American cubic inches. Just like old times!

Discuss.

BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 14:10

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What should've happened in the beginning. Screw the FIA regs.

Oran J Sands III > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 14:22

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Maybe we could even convince Gurney and Foyt to come out of retirement.

Sam > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 14:26

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I wish. Unfortunately, I have a feeling we’ll never see a non-prototype take overall ever again.

Oran J Sands III > Sam 07/30/2015 at 14:29

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I feel that too but maybe one last push. One last try. John Henry vs the steam drill all over again. Something batshit crazy that no one would ever do. Let’s not forget Ford still had the 427 SOHC waiting in the wings...

Oran J Sands III > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 14:36

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I gotta say I love that shit-eating grin!

Cherry_man1 > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 15:51

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Ford should make the Ford GT-RS a Ford GT with a Twin Turbo V8 that was the prototype engine in the TT Cobra Jet Car.

It may be Coyote Based but it supposedly made over 1000HP.

Oran J Sands III > Cherry_man1 07/30/2015 at 15:52

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That’s the idea!

Cherry_man1 > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 15:54

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It’s there on the shelf....waiting...watching.....plotting....trying to figure out how to get the gas millage and keep 1000HP

Oran J Sands III > Cherry_man1 07/30/2015 at 16:07

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I’d be happy to see it lead the race until it ran out of full. Sort of a last gasp of the non-hybrids.

Cherry_man1 > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 16:16

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All cars are hybrids....they burn Tires and Gas.

Ford needs to crank the insanity to 11.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 16:57

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Would it even fit? There’s not that much room for the engine in the new one.

Oran J Sands III > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 07/30/2015 at 17:03

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Width would be about the same but it’d be longer of course. But you’d have a special tail for LeMans as well.

Oran J Sands III > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 17:05

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I’m guessing $kaycog is out today :-)

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Oran J Sands III 07/30/2015 at 19:14

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I have long surmised that a special, very limited run of Ford GTs might be coming with the flat-crank 5.2 V8...

And I surmised perhaps a hardcore variant of the Raptor with a 7-liter ‘big-block-modular’ V8 engine.

Ford has a history of doing a production special, like SVT Cobra, or Shelby GT500 or GT350 models, and then a truly limited edition, low-production VERY-special like the few Cobra Rs, SuperSnake, and GT350R.

Arguably Raptor and Ford GT are already production-specials... I hope there will be another step beyond.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > Oran J Sands III 08/27/2015 at 08:38

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Audi, Porsche and Toyota are currently spending about $400 million per season LeMans/WEC. I don’t see Ford putting up that kind of scratch to win.

Plus the new GT is not par with the 919 or the R18. It is a genuine GT car so top honors is not in its future. Back in the 1990s when the prototypes were so unreliable that most of the field DNF’d or spent 6 hours in the pits, maybe. There’s a thought of how far we’ve come.

I miss homologation for exactly the reason you opine for a Ford win overall. Back in the 1960s those were real cars. Today the prototypes are F1 cars with fenders (not complaining!). I have my own fantasy multi-class GT series, but FIA ignores my hand written notes. It’s like going back to the 1990s...

GT1: Factory teams, near prototype cars with 1000+hp but a street production minimum of 25 cars (maybe 50!). Carbon tubs, KERS, all that stuff, but have to have recognizable OE themes like headlights, grilles and tailights, a la Porsche GT1, Mercedes CLK- GTR. Not as dedicated race car as the P class today.

GT2: Privateer teams with a factory tub (firewall, roof, floor) but the front and back of the car are open to interpretation. Like a modern 935. 800-ish HP. Almost like Japans SuperGT- GT500 class.

GT3: like GTE-LM today. Factory teams for the most part, OE look with an factory tub. OE engine block and heads in the OE location. Racing transaxle in the OE location (i’m looking at YOU BMW!)

GT4: two or three spec cars, basically GT-Challenge today