Focus RS starts at $35,730.

"nafsucof" (galinskiomatic)
07/28/2015 at 20:43 • Filed to: None

$1900 for forged wheels with pilot cup tires. Pretty good deal.

DISCUSSION (62)

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 20:53

These will handily outsell the STIs

Sneaky Pete > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 20:54

That’s a shit load of money for a Focus. DGAF that it’s an RS. There’s a long list of cars I’d buy before that for 36k!

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Sneaky Pete
07/28/2015 at 20:57

That’s right in line with the STI and Evo X though. Which you’re paying 36 grand for an impreza and Lancer respectively

nafsucof > Sneaky Pete
07/28/2015 at 20:58

List a few please.

PS9 > Sneaky Pete
07/28/2015 at 20:59

You say that like ‘$36k’ is a lot of money. It’s not. That’s only $4k more than the average price for a new vehicle today.

Cherry_man1 > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:00

That's scrapin close to the Mustang GT pricing. I need to see performance data and reviews before I would even consider that price cause I go could get a BOSS 302 for that price

Decay buys too many beaters > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:01

Wasn’t aware the pricing had been made public yet, I expect this to totally eviscerate the STIs sales if true.

Conan > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:01

This and the Abarth Spider are gonna have a few shootouts in my head.

nafsucof > Decay buys too many beaters
07/28/2015 at 21:02

A friend sent me the link, not sure where he got it or how to get to it through the ford site but there are a few options including sunroof, track tires, special seat materials etc

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Cherry_man1
07/28/2015 at 21:03

Right and some people don’t want a used muscle car and want an awd bad ass hatchback. Nobody will be cross shopping a V8 pony car and pretty much the step below a full fledged rally car

For Sweden > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:04

notbad.co.uk

PS9 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
07/28/2015 at 21:05

The evo will be gone soon, so this is the only competition for it. Gotta hand it to ford for going all in and undercutting the STI instead of pricing the Focus out of consideration range for potential Boostang buyers.

Sneaky Pete > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:06

C6Z06, Gen II Viper, Mustang GT (new or used), early NSX, E90 M3, A3, A4, IS250, ATS, etc, etc.

Cherry_man1 > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
07/28/2015 at 21:09

They will be if they are the bro class of people. Also you never know. Both can be stupid good track weapon.

nafsucof > Sneaky Pete
07/28/2015 at 21:12

So cross shopping an a3, a4, is250, ats etc etc etc is rediculous with an RS. You are just listing cars under $36k. Go ahead and buy a 25yo Honda and enjoy it. You must have quite the collection. This is a daily driver not a garage queen/trailer to track car. This will carry another set of tires or 3 friends to the track and then be competitive with much more expensive cars.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Cherry_man1
07/28/2015 at 21:13

I think most people looking at the the RS will be cross shopping the STI, Evo, and Golf R which then it’s right in line with pricing

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:14

Kinja'd!!!

Too bad those tires won’t fit on those wheels...

Jayhawk Jake > Cherry_man1
07/28/2015 at 21:15

You are literally the only person cross shopping those two cars

Jayhawk Jake > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:17

Eh, I agree with him mostly. It’s a $37k Focus. That’s a lot for a Focus. Golf R seems like a better value overall.

I have the same issue with the STi. If I'm after performance I can go used and get a hell of a lot more car. If I want new the interior better be great for $36k.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:18

Kinja'd!!!

Before dealer markup? So i guess the only way to get this car for MSRP would be to buy direct from the manufacturer....oh wait....

Sneaky Pete > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:23

I have a Viper, a CTS, and a Fit. For 36k you could buy a bad ass car AND a daily beater, like I have. Then you’re not piling miles onto your fun car.

You suck at reading comprehension (and spelling-it’s ridiculous, btw) - I never said anything about buying comparable vehicles for the same money, just that there was a long list of cars I’d buy before spending 36k on a Focus.

Discounting the NSX as a “25 year old Honda” shows you know shit. I know several people that own said 25 year old Honda and have TONS of fun for TONS of trouble-free miles.

nafsucof > Jayhawk Jake
07/28/2015 at 21:25

Performance wise I think this is going to be beyond the vw. It’s got 50ish more hp and a better awd system. Subaru can barely keep stis on lots and they are a pretty basic inside. Pricing wise this is only $70 a month more than my st which I consider worth every cent. To each his own I suppose. How is the golf a better value btw? Just wondering your opinion?

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Jayhawk Jake
07/28/2015 at 21:25

But the golf r in the end is just a golf. Which competes with the focus and can be had just as basic

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > PS9
07/28/2015 at 21:25

There’s still the golf r

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
07/28/2015 at 21:26

....hmm im now questioning this whole sheet now

nafsucof > Sneaky Pete
07/28/2015 at 21:26

What did I spell wrong? Oh ridiculous. Big deal. And thanks.

Svend > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 21:35

To be fair USD$36,000 (GBP£23,000) isn’t a lot in the U.K. car market a current Ford Focus ST1 will set you back £22,500 up to the ST3 at £26,295. Yes I know the RS is likely to be a fair bit closer to £30,000 (USD$46,800). But in the U.K. and Europe performance hatch car market this is very well priced indeed.

Jayhawk Jake > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
07/28/2015 at 21:58

I think a lot of people would agree the Golf is a nicer/more grown up car

Axial > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
07/28/2015 at 21:59

You have no idea what people will cross-shop. People cross-shop just about everything. They even go in expecting to buy one car and sometimes leave with both that one and a second one of a different type.

So, respectfully, show the market data or shush.

nafsucof > Sneaky Pete
07/28/2015 at 22:04

And I never discounted the nsx beyond it being 25 years old. They are great but I personally don’t fit in them with or without a helmet. I was literally suggesting you get one and enjoy it. I personally like to drive my fun car everyday. Also, I have a short commute so I’m not putting “TONS” of miles on my car. And I don’t have room for three cars anyhow. You are bringing up a totally different conversation if you want to talk about spending $36k on cars. Why are you so mad and why are you poking fun at me? I’m not an editor or scholar, I’m a successful server in a high end restaurant. I Autocross every weekend and tear down and rebuild cars in my spare time. This was a friendly discussion about cars and you say I know shit? You haven't the faintest idea. Because you have some friends with reliable nsxs you are all knowing? Get some manners. Grow up, whatever. If you’d like to be polite let me know.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Sneaky Pete
07/28/2015 at 22:12

Kinja'd!!!

Cherry_man1 > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
07/28/2015 at 22:20

I can see that as well but if someone is looking for performance in general they may also look at used Audi RS4 as well

Cherry_man1 > Jayhawk Jake
07/28/2015 at 22:21

Though I bet I won't be the only one because when looking for performance you have to look at everything.

Sneaky Pete > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 22:26

Congrats. Glad to hear you use your cars for what they were built for, and props for actually working on them yourself.

samssun > Sneaky Pete
07/28/2015 at 22:33

The Focus RS will be a car you can buy and use as your “everything car”. Daily driver, screwing around, bad weather, picking up friends, hauling things. Your list goes from single use cars, to questionable reliability, to FWD/boring/slow. This car’s competitors are the STI, Golf R, and maybe RS3 and CL/A45.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
07/28/2015 at 22:43

The interior on the Focus is more modern than the Evo and dramatically nicer than the WRX... Like knocking on the door of the GTI territory.

Party-vi > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 22:44

Fuckin. Called it.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Decay buys too many beaters
07/28/2015 at 22:45

The question is whether they’ll build enough to do that. They would need to keep making them indefinitely, instead of this random short-run stuff.

nafsucof > Party-vi
07/28/2015 at 22:51

Great price right?! I’d be happy buying a bone stock one at the base price. I’d rather buy aftermarket wheels and choice tires anyhow.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Cherry_man1
07/28/2015 at 22:52

Yeah they will not be cross shopping a 55 thousand dollar car

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 22:59

Despite all the torque-vectoring bells and whistles, I can’t imagine the RS matching the loose surface performance or predictablilty of the STI. It will probably go like stink on tarmac though. The ST torque vectoring makes the car feel like its a on rails around corners, until you hit the edge of grip at least.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Axial
07/28/2015 at 23:07

Yeah because people totally cross shop lamborghinis with cuvs. No they narrow down to a specific market and find one they like. No one is gonna cross shop a BMW 3 series with an f250. Just like no one is gonna cross shop a turbo awd hatchback with a V8 RWD pony car

nafsucof > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed
07/28/2015 at 23:10

yeah I suppose the actual comparisons will be the only way we know for sure. I think the torque vectoring on the st is unpredictable. I replaced my open diff with an LSD and an adjustable rear sway bar for more predictable, more linear rotation. The tvc doesn’t do much with the diff installed. So that’s good for my tastes atleast.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > nafsucof
07/28/2015 at 23:19

I like my ST, but like all powerful FWD cars it feels incomplete without an LSD. That’s something Honda is still doing right with the SI. I don’t have the skills to do an install myself let alone in my driveway like you did. That was a expert level Jalop maneuver.

d15b > PS9
07/28/2015 at 23:51

I don’t think so. I thought the average price of a car was around $30k USD?

nafsucof > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed
07/28/2015 at 23:54

I agree completely with that first bit! The si has a nice lsd right from the factory crazy right? That’s my concern about the RS though is the possibility of open diffs with tvc instead of lsd. its all computer controlled clutch packs in the rear with a locked diff.

Cherry_man1 > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
07/29/2015 at 00:24

You can find a RS4 for in the low 30s now albeit with high miles and it may be unreliable but they are out there. I mean anything is out there for that price I've found a C6 Z06 for that price though it has like almost 90k miles on it but hey it's kinda a bargin if you can keep it running/it holds up. I'm just looking at it in a Tarvish kinda way.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > nafsucof
07/29/2015 at 01:00

Hmm, that’s about a grand more than the STi starting price.

PS9 > d15b
07/29/2015 at 05:04

It’s $32-$33k now.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Jayhawk Jake
07/29/2015 at 07:44

I doubt that. There were also people cross shopping wrx against brz, so I see it as no different.

It’s just another case of people trying to justify why one car from a oem is better than another from the same oem while completely discounting the purpose each is trying to achieve

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
07/29/2015 at 08:12

Exactly. If you’re gonna say “That’s a lot of money for a focus” you have to admit that a golf R is also a lot of money for a golf. If the FoRS is to the bog standard focus as the Golf R is to the plain-Jane Golf, then I fail to see how this is a valid complaint at all.

BarbarousJaffa > nafsucof
07/29/2015 at 09:15

Kinja'd!!!

since the link still works.. i spec’ed the one i want!!

TylerJ > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
07/29/2015 at 10:15

I’m cross shopping a new GTI, used ATS, used Mustang GT Premium, new WRX, used G8 GT, and I’m considering adding a used FX2 F150 to the mix. Just because you are set on buying only one type of car, doesn’t mean everyone else is.

Saracen > nafsucof
07/29/2015 at 11:38

And the stupid posts about the price have started.

SlickMcRick > nafsucof
07/29/2015 at 11:39

Sooooo if this is true....I think I may finally jump into the world of leasing. I need it in my life. I’ve always loved Ford hatches ever since my Escort GT. Made me want a Cosworth Escort but you know how we got hosed in the states. This would be a dream come true.

d15b > PS9
07/29/2015 at 11:57

Maybe my views are skewed. $32k for a car sounds pretty pricey.

Cheapo > BarbarousJaffa
07/29/2015 at 12:25

What avaiable options did they have (if you remember)? Link no longer works. Any surprising colors?

Cheapo > Sneaky Pete
07/29/2015 at 12:31

You suck at comparing a brand new car to the used car market. The RS will come with a warranty and 0 miles. Not everyone wants to deal with a used German car (or really? Who the hell would cross shop a used gen 2 viper over this??). WRX/STI/EVO/R (ALL NEW) are main competors. Find a comparable new car to compare this too.

Andrew T. Maness > nafsucof
07/29/2015 at 12:59

Now I want to build one so bad!

PS9 > d15b
07/29/2015 at 13:12

~$100k and beyond = Pricey
~$50k = Above average
~$30k = Average
~$20k = below average

Anything below that = cheap

d15b > PS9
07/29/2015 at 14:54

I am poor. :(

PS9 > d15b
07/29/2015 at 15:16

Welcome to the club my friend. :(