McLaren MP4-12C Or a...

"PatBateman" (PatBateman) 07/01/2015 at 22:01 • Filed to: Second Car

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CALLING ALL OPPONAUTS!! I have a friend who is in dire need of a second opinion on a second car. And you automotively apt bastards are just the people to pull this off. So let’s get started, shall we?

A good friend of mine (we’ll call him “Al”) currently has a 2013 Nissan GT-R with about 700 hp at the wheels on E85. He wants more speed, but it would cost him about $25-35k to accomplish this. Al also has to take into account that he’ll lose pretty much every dime he’ll put into it PLUS additional depreciation by putting on about 10k worth of miles over the next two years. Thus, he is considering a second option.

2012 McLaren MP4-12Cs are running anywhere between $149-159k with 10k-18k on the odometer. Annual services aren’t expensive (I think he said about $1,500). Al figures that he could buy one of these examples, put 10k miles on it, and sell it after “two years MAX” while only taking a depreciation hit of $20-25k.

That’s where you come in. Are there any similar (HARDTOP COUPE) vehicles that you know of that would be similar in price, age, costs, and performance (0-60: 2.9, 1/4: 10.8)? Give Al options.

Let’s roll.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:03

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http://us.caterhamcars.com/cars/seven-620…

not for canada - australian in disguise > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:05

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Fuck everything you just said and get an F-Type.

It may not be as fast as the 12C, and it might have depreciation and reliability issues in the future, but it’s quite possibly the best looking, best sounding, and all around most fantastic car I can think of for it’s price, or any price really, for that matter. And now available with either the previously available ZF 8-Speed, which is an excellent transmission, or a new 6-Speed manual. (On the V6 only though, which is the one you want anyways)

Jcarr > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:05

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997 911 Turbo?

PatBateman > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/01/2015 at 22:06

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I like your style, but it needs to be a street legal hard top.

boxrocket > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:12

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I might be biased, but, uh, I'd stick with the McLaren. If he wants it to be less obviously old there's ways of making it look like a 650S and outperform it.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:13

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It’s street legal, just no hard top. But it’s the only way to go faster while being half price. Or he could just get a Z06

PatBateman > not for canada - australian in disguise 07/01/2015 at 22:14

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Nah. He takes his car to the drag strip. He needs power and speed.

I agree that it looks good (and sounds better), but I don't think Al will bite.

scoob > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:14

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They are street legal and you can buy hard tops :P

misfitmascots > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:15

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Jaguar F-Type R, Aston Martin V12 Vantage

not for canada - australian in disguise > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:15

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Then a Hellcat?

PatBateman > boxrocket 07/01/2015 at 22:15

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I was looking at Tavarish’s post on that earlier today. Maybe the $5k tune, but looking like the 650S isn't a biggie.

Cherry_man1 > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:16

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Maybe this? http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/…

or this? http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/…

PatBateman > Jcarr 07/01/2015 at 22:17

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Mmmaybe. I'll definitely bring that up with him.

PatBateman > misfitmascots 07/01/2015 at 22:18

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The Jags are too new (not enough depreciation yet), but the Vantage V-12 might be an option.

PatBateman > scoob 07/01/2015 at 22:19

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True, but resale value?

PatBateman > not for canada - australian in disguise 07/01/2015 at 22:20

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Probably too new. He wants something that depreciation has already hit on.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:20

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Probably not too bad actually

misfitmascots > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:21

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The F-Type R is a little over $100k new

Hot Takes Salesman > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:21

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How about 991 Turbo S? 0-60 in 2.6 and wonderful driving characteristics. It’s also one of the best Grand Tourers available.

PatBateman > Cherry_man1 07/01/2015 at 22:23

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I was looking at similarly-priced Murcielagos today. The maintenance might be a bit too steep, but it definitely fits the bill otherwise.

The Gallardo might be better suited for his style.

Jcarr > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:23

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As I’m sure he knows from the GT-R, AWD makes for good launches.

wafflesnfalafel > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:23

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If the dude wants a McLaren he will regret buying anything else - get the McLaren.

Cherry_man1 > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:24

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I mean the specs you listed are pretty high but there is always R8 V10GT and such and maybe GT500 SuperSnakes, I say the GT500 cause they make 800HP, cheap to work on, and still batshit fast

For Sweden > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:24

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I think your only step up, speed wise, from a 700 WHP GT-R will be a Veyron SS or a Venom.

Is your friend in the Triple Comma Club, or just a tire kicker?

PatBateman > Hot Takes Salesman 07/01/2015 at 22:25

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We went over his preference on ride styles. He’s not big into the tourer thing, but the speed on the 0-60 puts it well into his preferred category of cars. I'll have to look at the 1/4 traps.

Hot Takes Salesman > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:28

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I think it’s a low eleven or high 10 at the quarter mile, but think about it- you could drive it at one track, then continue driving right on to the next track. Also, the launch control is fucking invincible. 50+ hard launches in a row, one after the other, and that’s when Road and Track gave up.

PatBateman > Jcarr 07/01/2015 at 22:32

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His car is an absolute beast when it comes to launches. I've driven it at 75% (not my car, didn't want to wreck) and it was insane.

Sam > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:36

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F-Type V8 SVR, which is going to have 600hp and AWD? It’s going to be a thing he’ll have to wait for though, since it’s *allegedly* coming early next year.

Milky > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:43

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McLaren is dopeness, but for a different thought:

+ a visit to UGR

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because who doesnt want this?

Also UGR Gallardos are a thing but I didn’t look to see how expensive those are.

PatBateman > For Sweden 07/01/2015 at 22:43

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Not in the triple comma club, but he's not a tire kicker either.

The first bruce > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 22:52

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Used Gallardo or R8 with an Underground Racing TT kit! 140k for everything.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 23:02

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Drag racing those kinds of cars is just retarded.

deekster_caddy > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 23:08

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Get the McLaren.

Jayhawk Jake > PatBateman 07/01/2015 at 23:16

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C6 ZR1, C7 Z06...

Take to Lingenfelter, go very fast

Clown Shoe Pilot > PatBateman 07/02/2015 at 00:57

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If he doesn’t have 3 commas, he can’t have doors that open like this

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Milky 07/02/2015 at 10:17

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Mother of GOd. I have come back around on these now and like them a lot.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > PatBateman 07/02/2015 at 10:17

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Go Macca

Milky > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 07/03/2015 at 09:35

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That gated shifter tho right?!

Brian Silvestro > PatBateman 07/03/2015 at 12:27

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this car

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > Jayhawk Jake 07/09/2015 at 01:47

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I support this more than getting a UGR Gallardo or R8 — those cars are ridiculously costly if something breaks because UGR sure as hell won’t be cheap. With a V8, any performance shop specializing in domestic cars won’t be as costly.

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > PatBateman 07/09/2015 at 01:48

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A modified 996 turbo would be more epic. Although unlike me, many don’t like the 996.