"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
06/20/2015 at 15:25 • Filed to: None | 22 | 18 |
My driver’s safety course instructor was a police sergeant with over 20 years on the force. He was also in charge of accident reconstruction, and trained officers from around the region in it. So I was beyond blown away when he said, regarding the three-second following distance that, “Any two passenger cars traveling on the same surface at the same speed will be able to stop in the same distance.” When the class pushed him, he said that repeated tests and studies had shown that no other factors mattered, apart from identical speed and road conditions. A large SUV, he said, will have the same stopping distance as a sports car. He then said only reason a vehicle would have a longer stopping distance were if it were a large commercial vehicle. Because I forgot, physics only applies if you have a CDL.
How the hell did you get to be an accident reconstructionist if you believe something that is not only incorrect, but physical impossible?
ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 15:30 | 14 |
Wow. That’s some epic level BS and idiocy right there.
daender
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 15:31 | 17 |
20 years experience where? Reno 9-1-1? What a buffoon.
E92M3
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 15:41 | 16 |
What a dumbass. 2 identical cars with different tires have different stopping distances. Send him a link to a tire rack test. He just ruined the validity of every accident investigation he’s ever completed.
LongbowMkII
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 16:05 | 8 |
Tell all the car mags to stop bothering to test braking distances. All are the same.
wacopalypsenow
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 16:31 | 10 |
This is why every police officer should have a 4-year degree. I don’t care if it is a Bachelor of Arts degree...even then they are required to take some basic science requirements. A four-year might also weed out some of the Rambos.....
Steve in Manhattan
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 16:53 | 6 |
Send him this:
HammerheadFistpunch
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 16:56 | 8 |
I knew that 60-0 number for all those car magazines was a lie.
sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> Steve in Manhattan
06/20/2015 at 17:27 | 0 |
I was actually thinking about that clip.
Baeromez
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 17:58 | 4 |
He probably knows damn well that that is not the case. I am sure that for the purposes of the class he’s legally required to teach the “facts” exactly as the state deems.
Steve in Manhattan
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 18:10 | 2 |
There is another clip where they do the same thing, but with supercars. Could not find it. But the point remains - a 911 with ceramic brakes is gonna stop waaaay shorter than a Camry.
boxrocket
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 19:33 | 4 |
According to MotorWeek*, damn near everything stops between 100-120 feet nowadays.
*I don’t pay attention to the braking tests all that closely unless they're really bad or really good
whoarder is tellurium
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 21:21 | 1 |
Soooo many variables
Destructive Tester
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 21:33 | 2 |
I’m having no problems believing this. I once saw a cop at an accident scene where a sport bike newb panicked, locked the front wheel, and dumped the clutch in first; plowing the front wheel right into a fire hydrant (I actually witnessed the accident) said it was “obvious” the rider was doing “at least 80” in the parking lot... This was based entirely on 30’ of skid mark and he wouldn’t hear any different from any one of about 25 witnesses.
I’m not defending the rider, he was kind of a dumbass but that doesn't change the fact he was plowing a locked wheel at full steering lock...
TheOnelectronic
> Baeromez
06/20/2015 at 21:43 | 0 |
Would not surprise me.
TheOnelectronic
> Steve in Manhattan
06/20/2015 at 21:45 | 0 |
But not faster than a 911 without ceramic brakes. As long as your brakes are strong enough to trip the ABS, they don’t actually factor into stopping distance. That’s all tires and weight transfer.
wiffleballtony
> wacopalypsenow
06/20/2015 at 22:23 | 2 |
In all fairness most new cops have degrees now due to the competitive nature of the openings. It’s the old ones that are problem.
wafflesnfalafel
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/20/2015 at 23:57 | 2 |
He needs someone to take him for a ride in a car with a set of big, carbon brakes and suck the eyeballs out of his head. Big brakes are awesome - sure, pulling on somebody under acceleration is all fine and good but a good bob, weave and late brake is awesome.
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> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
06/21/2015 at 00:26 | 1 |
“How the hell did you get to be an accident reconstructionist if you believe something that is not only incorrect, but physical impossible?”
Government job. Just as long as he wasn’t too incompetent, it was good enough.
The same type of minds also believe that speeding is the only thing that needs to be focused on to make roads safer...