What are some unpopular automotive opinions that you have? 

"MegaSuper" (megasuper) 06/06/2015 at 17:40 • Filed to: None

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My intent here is not to cause a flamewar or anger, but to hear the “other side” of opinions that we don’t often find on here. I notice that both on here and on mainland Jalopnik, people with unpopular opinions only really share theirs once someone else goes first.

So what are some opinions/feelings you have about cars that totally go against the grain, or at least whatever the grain appears to be on here?

So here goes, just my opinions, I’m not saying these are absolute truths:

• In terms of looks, I find the R32 GTR to be the least appealing. It’s just incredibly plain to me. I really can’t decide which is best-looking.

People really seem to hate the R33, but I enjoy how it looks from the back; very cohesive design with the brake lights is nice. (Plus, the Nismo 400R looks amazing, and is R33-based).

The R34 is excellent, but has a few too many square shapes so it almost looks comically too-aggressive/more muscle car than sports car, and I don’t like how spread apart the rear lights are.

The R35 looks great from almost every angle (especially the side), has gorgeous brake lights at night, but has a lot of “empty space” from the brake lights down.

• Ferraris

- I think the 612 is gorgeous. The front isn’t as elegant as the 456’s, but the back is great, the side is great, it just flows incredibly well. If you’ve never seen one in person, it’s so much better than in photos. Very striking yet somehow understated car. James May said it was one of his favourite-ever cars; it’s definitely stylish in a classy but not brash way.

- I think the Ferrari California looks good too. The rear reminds me a lot of a TVR, and the wacky vertically-stacked exhausts are a nice touch too.

- Of all the “Ferrari Supercars”, I think the F50 is the best-looking. Again, curvy shape and that classic Ferrari rear. The GTO is great but F50 is better in my eyes. F40 looks awkward to me in the front (probably the fog lights-that-look-like-headlights trick), the Enzo’s nose looks like it’s trying to scream “HEY WE BUILD F1 CARS” a bit too loudly and is just too “busy” of a design overall, and the LaFerrari is like a strange combination of the worst bits of the Enzo and the parts of the F50 that people don’t like.

- I don’t like how the 458 looks at all. The aerodynamic “braces” in the lower front just ruin it for me, as well as the too-tall headlights. A lot of articles say “It’s the most gorgeous Ferrari in years” and I just don’t see it.

• Lamborghini: I don’t “get” the Huracan. The back is very plain, with that unused space between the lights and license plate. The front reminds me of a platypus (although if you REALLY want to see a platypus car, search for “B Engineering Edonis” hahahaha). The Aventador is not quite as bad. For me though, the Murciélago is a real high-water mark. Not too wedge, not too stealth fighter. Just right.

• Mercedes SLS and AMG-GT: There’s something strange about how the cockpit stands out on these cars from the side perspective. It reminds me of the Mini Coupé. It’s just a bit too tall and prominent and doesn’t really work with the rest of the smooth lines on the cars. I also feel the AMG-GT looks rather “melted/jelly-bean like” from the front-3/4s view. I think the SLR is better-looking than both of these, which seems to be an uncommon opinion in itself.

• I think the Mitsuoka Orochi is actually a good-looking car. Yes. The rear is not that different than most exotics, with the quad lights, and the front looks kind of sinister-yet-organic. I can see where some think it’s ugly, but when I saw that episode of Top Gear where James May drives it in Japan...I don’t know, it just made sense, it looked so great in motion. The designer said that it’s supposed to look like a dragon, and somehow, it does.

• I think cars like the Lamborghini Urus, Aston Martin DBX, Porsche Cayenne/Macan, Mercedes GLA45/G63 are a good thing. They represent more choice for the consumer, and more profits for the company. If that can pay for their sports/supercar programs, great. Plus, some people live in areas or countries with horrible roads, so they can’t necessarily enjoy a standard sports car or supercar. “Performance” SUVs/crossovers offer the best of both worlds to these buyers. When people get all angry about a high-end manufacturer making a performance crossover or SUV, I think it just comes off as a bit elitist. I don’t see the downsides of it. I’ve read that the market for SUVs has grown tenfold and the sports car market has shrunk by half. It’d be irrational for manufacturers to ignore this.

• By the same token, I don’t see the value in selling a car as manual-only “just because.” If the manufacturer has done the research, and can’t make a business case for the automatic, that’s fine (Vice-versa is fine too, such as in the case of the Charger Hellcat). I just don’t get it though when people say, “Oh that car’s manual-only? WANT!” (I saw a few of these around the Internet when the Focus RS was announced.) Again, it just seems a bit elitist. More choice, more sales = a good thing. It feels like with each passing year being a car enthusiast seems to be more and more of a niche interest, so the way I see it is that as many new fans should be welcomed to the fold as possible, you know?

• I think that folding-hardtop cars are actually pretty cool. Some of them look horrible, but not all. (Miata, Ferrari California, Lexus SC430 actually looks nice from the rear at least.) I think it’s smart for manufacturers to offer both (like the Miata!) because some people live in dodgy areas where having your convertible top slashed open is a real concern. Can’t do that to a hardtop. Plus, you have the roof open when you want to have fun, and the roof is usually closed when you’re in bad weather, or stuck in traffic, so at those times it makes sense to have more sound-deadening/weather protection/refinement. Finally, no case of rotted top if it’s an old collector’s car.

• Not a big fan of V10s (MAJOR exception: Lexus LFA). I realize it’s said all the time, but to my ears, the Dodge Viper really does sound like a truck, as do the BMW M5/Lamborghini Gallardo when they’re putting around town. I know they can scream out on the racetrack, but at every-day speeds, they sound less than inspiring. V10s just seem like a configuration with a split personality to me; they don’t burble as much as a V8, nor can they wail like a V12 or even a good straight-6.

Cé hé sin > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 17:46

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The automated manual gearbox in the Smart For Two is just fine. So is the one in the Citroen c3 and the Peugeot 107/Citroen C1/Toyota Aygo.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 17:47

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Ford America did not make a decent car between 1993 and 2015, Ford Europe however did (Focus RS this and that).

The prettiest Ferrari ever made is the 400i. I HATE the Enzo and the F50..

Porsche Cayman is way better than any 911 as a drivers car.

Honda makes perhaps the best looking wagons right now.

One of the prettiest Cadillacs ever made, was in fact an Opel.

Nibby > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 17:48

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Full size SUVs can be pretty cool.

djmt1 > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 17:51

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Alfa Romeos are shit. No matter how much Top Gear bang on about passion and soul, they are still overpriced, slow, rusty, rebadged fiats.

deprecated account > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 17:51

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Miata isn’t always the answer.

ly2v8-Brian > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 17:53

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Stick does not equate better driver.

michael bleggi > Cé hé sin 06/06/2015 at 17:54

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omg!!!!!!!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 17:57

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Lifted trucks are fine, along with their owners.

Bro’s with trucks are usually 10x less doucheie than a lot of “enthusiasts”(ie, I’ve seen guys in Miatas do dumber and more dangerous shit than rolling coal, which is a minute offense when it comes down to the actual immediate dangers of the body.)

GM should have been left for dead. They’ll just run themselves into the ground again.

The LS swap is boring, and the LS just doesn’t sound good, IT DOES SOUND LIKE A TRUCK. A Corvette or Camaro sounds like any bro with a Silverado and custom exhaust.

The Camry is a perfectly acceptable car, far from the worst in class.

The CTS looks like shit from the front, the LED’s look cheap as shit.

Last but not least, to the average being, 60k dollars for a 2 seat car, is not realistically affordable.

MultiplaOrgasms > djmt1 06/06/2015 at 17:58

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The irony being that shortly after the Fiat takeover Alfa started galvanising their cars, so rusty they weren’t.

Cé hé sin > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:03

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The sun does not shine from Elon Musk’s lower regions.

The Tesla Model S is not the end of life as it is known for other car makers.

D > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 06/06/2015 at 18:04

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not a GT fan?

yamahog > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:06

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I straight up do not give a single fuck about most European or Japanese cars. Anything in my price range doesn’t really seem to have what I’m looking for.

Echo51 > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:07

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MY CAR IS THE BEST EVER.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:08

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I don’t like Ford Rangers but F100’s are okay

The new subaru outback is wayyyyy better than the old one

Not everybody needs to drive a stick.

You can get through winter without snow tires

Volkswagens are shitty cars, but I’d still do a GTI

Mustangs are cool the first year they come out then you would have been better off with a WRX

I don’t like to mod my cars, in anyway.

Modern full size trucks are pretty damn nice

Canadians can be real dicks, while Californian’s can be real nice

GhostZ > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:08

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1. Pushrod engines, when properly designed, are in many ways superior to DOHC engines, especially when it comes to weight savings, and most DOHC V6 designs are vastly overweight and inefficient for what they are.

2. There is nothing wrong with racing on public roads as long as its in a controlled (read: closed off) environment in vehicles that are designed to do it safely.

3. The Camaro, for most of its generations, has been one of the ugliest muscle cars and generally inferior to both the Firebird and the Mustang for almost its entire production life.

4. Fuel economy matters a lot less than utility and reliability. A car that gets 20mpg but has almost no repair and maintenance costs over its 20 year life is far better than a car that gets 40mpg but becomes a money pit after 10 years.

5. Almost all new cars are absurdly overpriced for only a minimally higher peace of mind, safety, and fuel economy.

6. Dollar-for-dollar, an older, depreciated car with proper improvements is always better than a comparable new car, provided you have a decent understanding of how the modifications work.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > D 06/06/2015 at 18:10

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Not really, love the GT40 though.

GhostZ > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 06/06/2015 at 18:12

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GhostZ > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 06/06/2015 at 18:17

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Damn, D got me on the reply, but while I’m here: what about the SVT Focus, and the last-gen Crown Victoria (which, while maybe not a drivers car, was excellently engineered and brilliant transportation)?

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 18:18

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Nah.. it does nothing for me.. the wheels look wrong (looks like they got them from a Mondeo, the overall shape is the generic.. they could not even be bothered to replicate the Gurney bubble.)

I’m sure it’s an awesome car, but nah.. I’d rather have this

GhostZ > yamahog 06/06/2015 at 18:19

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Maybe if more European or Japanese cars started being sold with american engines...

GhostZ > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 06/06/2015 at 18:21

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Speaking of wheels that look totally wrong...

I have a lot of love for the Fox Body though, but they are rattly flimsy unstable vehicles that need about 20-30% of the components replaced to reach their full potential. Which in a way makes them more interesting.

I generally get hung up less on appearances for cars and more capability and cost-efficiency, and the Ford GT is both good engineering and a financial wet dream.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 18:21

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SVT Focus.. well... yeah, but that was more a European Ford with some ‘Murican bits and bobs.

I must admit that I would consider a last-gen Crown Vic, but I’d rather have a Chevy :)

boxrocket > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:22

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I agree on the Skylines (though I like the R34 best, especially when the body of the Stagea wagon is put on it.

The F50 is my favorite Ferrari design. The F40 has some great elements, especially the rear third.
Cars with big air vents in the back with dual circular tail lamps - one pair being amber on the outside, like the McLaren F1 - almost always look good to me. Alternately, one really big set, like a Ford GT, are also attractive.

As for unpopular opinions, I openly loathe GM and would happily see other car companies push them out of the market.

I unashamedly love McLaren, Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover, and am a huge fan of Ford. I liked these brands before they all (except McLaren, duh) were part of Ford.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:25

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Automatics are okay.

Full-size trucks and SUVs are not a nuisance 99% of the time.

I’d rather spend $50k on a truck than a sports car.

America is making some of the best cars on the road right now, in every category.

The Cayman and Boxster are the best Porsches from a driver’s standpoint. The 911 exists purely for the heritage of the name.

I’d never own a VW. Unreliable pieces of shit.

Mercedes couldn’t exist for all I care. Their current cars are all ugly. I’d rather an XJ then S-Class.

Toyota is absolutely the worst automotive company out there right now in term of innovation. Most of their cars are so old under the skin it's a joke. The only reason they're making and money right now is because of blind faith from owners.

GhostZ > boxrocket 06/06/2015 at 18:26

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I’d like to see Cadillac reshaped, the Corvette kept around as its own thing, then let the rest of GM burn.

yamahog > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 18:27

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Europe would still drape the interior in thousands of dollars worth of leather and other BS I don’t care about and Japan would still make it look either boring or completely ridiculous.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 18:28

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I guess that’s the thing.. a GT here would cost me my grandmother, my father and all my trousers.. I could buy a few Ferrari 400i’s and still have money left to fix them for a year or two for the same money a Ford GT would cost.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:32

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All M3s are meh

Miata won’t be the answer till it has enough overtaking power to use for long distances

Ferrari hasn’t made a pretty car since the 308

The NSX wasn’t a supercar

Full size SUVs are a plague upon the universe

The Camry’s actually a half-decent car, if not an exciting one

No, the Prius isn’t a great car. But the Macintosh wasn’t a great computer. They both did a lot to move their industry forward. It doesn’t deserve the hate.

I don’t care how good the F Type sounds, Jag cylinders should come in rows of 6

There is no excuse for Bentley or Lambo coming out with SUVs or crossovers. Their parent company has plenty of other brands to sell SUVs under, this is just exploiting (and devaluing) these ones for short-term gain, and it’ll cost them in the long term

Get off my lawn!!!!

ranwhenparked > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:34

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- I prefer straight sixes to V8s and would chose the former over the latter any time, given the choice.

- Some cars should have automatics

- The Nissan Juke still has not “grown” on me, and probably never will.

tromoly > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:34

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Supercars are pointless. There, I said it.

The Miata would not be a bad car if it was by any other name. The fact that everyone who is an “enthusiast” pulls the Elitist card and says the Miata is the best car in the world, and if you feel otherwise you’re wrong, is what ruins the Miata. Though the example I drove felt very cramped and awkward in the pedalbox area, the car does have its faults.

Automatic transmissions aren’t terrible. Stop blaming the transmission for poor driving habits and start blaming poor driving on poor drivers. Also, Manuals do not make you feel “more connected” to the car, if your transmission is suddenly able to tell you how your vehicle is reacting to road conditions before your backside does I’d be amazed (and probably recommend seeing a doctor).

“Spirited” driving is dumb. Don’t do it.

1111111111111111111111 > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:34

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Volkswagen sucks. Fuck them forever.

GhostZ > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 06/06/2015 at 18:35

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The Ford GT remains the cheapest non-classic car in the world to own, given how it continues to appreciate. It’s just not the cheapest to buy initially. In the US it sold initially for about $160,000, but in europe my guess is they couldn’t be touched for under $300,000 in 2006 money. We had several thousand while you guys had less than 100.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 18:38

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I’d say a Ford GT would run me about 2 to 3 million NOK. So yeah...

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > Cé hé sin 06/06/2015 at 18:40

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I don’t think anybody with less than 300 shares of TSLA says the Model S is the end of life as it is known for other car makers, the Model 3 on the other hand...

GhostZ > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 06/06/2015 at 18:42

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Seems about right. Thats $250k to $400k here. Which is about what they’ve appreciated to. A well-used modified one is about $300k, an all original pristine example could be up to 500k.

It’s funny how one car can do better as an investment than a lot of real estate.

GhostZ > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 06/06/2015 at 18:44

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Business, fortunately, does not work like that.

GhostZ > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 06/06/2015 at 18:46

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I thoroughly support the 6-cylinder comment.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 18:47

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Right :) But for that money I could buy several older cars, like a Ferrari 400i and a 308.. and a.. and a.. yeah :P I would not get my money back, but it’s all about what you love right.

wunderwagen wants a longer roof > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:50

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Ohhh, time for fun.

I hate the current GTR (R35). I think they are ugly, fat, and beyond overhyped.

I respect the history and everything behind the German companies but don’t particularly like them or would own anything they made except an E39 5 series if it didn’t cost an exorbitant amount to take care of.

Almost the same with the Japanese companies except Subaru, I love Subaru. Toyota and Honda became very boring, the cars aren’t bad but I wouldn’t want any of them. I like Mazda but nothing they sell in the US is appealing to me except the 6, but I’d get a WRX or Forester XT over it in a heartbeat.

I think the American companies are on the ball right now, pulling themselves into the present in design and offerings. Especially Chrysler/FCA, Dart SRT please. I just hope Marchionne doesn’t fuck things up after getting them right, this merger shit needs to stop coming and he needs to focus on product expansion and development for all the brands. There is a reason for the continued sales growth they’ve seen.

If you can’t figure out from above, I love Chrysler. Especially Dodge.

Almost all supercars do nothing for me, especially Ferrari who have just become a fashion statement in my opinion. I respect the achievement of a group like Koenigsegg but still am not impressed.

Two doors bad, give me four minimum or gtfo.

desertdog5051 > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 18:51

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A brown, diesel, manual, station wagon. Many people (mostly on the FP) carry on about this.

It is not the holy grail to all people.

(now if Audi offered a brown, E-Tron station wagon, YESSSS!

wunderwagen wants a longer roof > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 06/06/2015 at 18:52

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Can we be besties? You nailed it with line 4.

What about Subaru though?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > wunderwagen wants a longer roof 06/06/2015 at 18:55

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Subaru has just enough quirkiness to all their cars for me to like. Boxer engines and AWD even in the lowliest models earns respect from me. And I’ve always liked the STI. Plus the only Toyota I’d buy (FRS) is a Subaru.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 18:56

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Yes.

GhostZ > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 06/06/2015 at 18:58

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$50,000 is enough to have a 280Z with a rebuilt interior, a twin turbo LS motor, nitromethane injection Arizona Z-Car suspension, 6-piston brake system, and 240ZG body.

Plus about a year’s worth of gas and insurance.

So like... I could have 6 of those. So, yes.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 19:03

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I’ll be perfectly honest though. Give me a Citroën CX GTi Turbo, an Opel Kadett C 1.6, a 1986 VW Golf GTi 16v and a brand new Skoda Superb stationwagon and I’m happy :P would still be cheaper than a Ford GT :P

GhostZ > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 06/06/2015 at 19:06

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FWD. Eeesh.

One of my unpopular opinions is RWD or die.

wunderwagen wants a longer roof > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 06/06/2015 at 19:10

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My buddy has a base manual 07 Forester and that thing is still fun in winter and better than 70% of other cars. Subaru is on it, especially in the US, they only need to give us the Levorg wagon. Even if it is only available with the CVT/Auto because it will sell well and the CVT WRX proves that it works well.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 19:11

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The Citroën and the Golf yeah.. The Opel is RWD, the Skoda is AWD. But the Citroën and the Golf are REALLY FUN cars. I’ve owned both and I miss them. I’d even be so bold as to say that my current car (‘95 Saab 9000 2.0 CD) is quite fun. It’s all about learning about weight transfer :P

fhrblig > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 19:37

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There’s nothing wrong with front wheel drive, and anyone who says that front wheel drive cars by default cannot be fun cars is an idiot.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 06/06/2015 at 19:51

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U FUKIN WOT M8?

BaconSandwich is tasty. > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 19:51

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I think the Prius is a fine vehicle. It was designed to get very good fuel economy, and it does very well at that.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches 06/06/2015 at 19:59

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Meh.

boxrocket > GhostZ 06/06/2015 at 20:28

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That seems fair. Excepting the ELR (more for pricing than what it is or its content), Cadillac seems to be the only GM [North America, though arguably globally, too) that really has itself together and fairly focused. I wouldn’t buy or recommend any of their cars for a variety if reasons, but in the black hole that is GM, they’re the least-dim part.

Corvette is certainly a powerful and iconic brand. The C7 certainly captures the image and capabilities of the C1-C3, where the C4-C6 were plagued with gross and insulting cost cutting (I drove a 50th Anniversary C6 today and it had a worse interior than a base-model Cobalt I drove earlier this week), mediocre build quality, and inherent discomforts and compromises. The C7 is too much of a hodgepodge of design to be appealing, but it seems more on the path than immediate prior generations (though its own interior doesn’t feel much more special than a Sonic LT, despite the fancy graphics on the screen. Someone could tell me I was sitting in a special Cruze coupe and it would be believable with the corvette imagery concealed or removed.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 06/06/2015 at 20:34

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///M fan ? :)

NoneOfYourBiz > MegaSuper 06/06/2015 at 20:38

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You do not have the skills to extract maximum performance from your car. (those with a racing licence and experience driving in Europe get a pass on this - most of all y’all? NO.)

Buy an automatic.

All the shit talk about Toyota a few years back? Undeserved. User error compounded by an unethical media shitstorm.

GMC and Chrysler still produce mostly garbage. Ford is the only American automaker that has largely cleaned up their act. (they all still have their hits and misses)

Proper winter tires trump AWD for winter driving. I’ll put my FWD Hyundai on Continental ExtremeWinterContacts up against your Suburu wearing all-seasons any day in February here in Canada.

AWD in general is a waste of money. (exception: performance cars where you’re transmitting more power to the ground than two tires can handle- which, per #1, you are probably not qualified to handle)

$25,000 > $5,000. No matter how good a “financing deal” you’re being offered on a new car (even 0%), you’re still paying way more than you would for a used car, even with the extra maintenance that comes with the latter. Buy used, unless perhaps you’re independently wealthy.

Brand loyalty is dumb. Buy a copy of the Lemon-Aid guide and stick with stuff on the “recommended” or “above average” lists. Don’t get attached to brands.

Cé hé sin > GhostZ 06/07/2015 at 05:24

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Interestingly the GT didn’t sell in the planned numbers and the last few were broken up for spares.

Similiarly the McLaren F1 didn’t sell until it became a second hand classic.

Cé hé sin > yamahog 06/07/2015 at 05:26

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Then again I couldn’t care less about American cars, being as they are so irrelevant to me.

yamahog > Cé hé sin 06/07/2015 at 11:31

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You and a lot of people. Which is why I mentioned my preference in an unpopular opinion thread. I’m sure you pick what you drive for your own reasons and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Sweet Trav > MegaSuper 06/07/2015 at 12:17

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Ferrari builds shitty engines. GM Ford or VW could build one hell of a bad ass engine if it had to have major service done every 15,000 miles.

I’m sorry but there is no reason to rev an engine that high with the great gearboxes we have, if your engine has to rev past 7 to get the job done, you’re building a poor engine for a road legal passenger car (bike engines obviously excluded)

Also specific brake horsepower is a bunch of bullshit, HP / L is quite possibly the worst metric for an engine, HP/Kg is a far better measure of a performance engine.

GhostZ > Cé hé sin 06/07/2015 at 13:19

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Most would argue that it’s because the planned numbers were insanely high, and since it was sold almost exclusively in the US, the supercar 1% market is only so big. There were probably more Ford GTs than Gallardos or Ferrari F430s sold in the US during its production run.

Conan > MegaSuper 06/08/2015 at 07:02

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I think Jaguar lost something when they left Ford’s control.

I’m not sure if the F50 is the last Ferrari I like or the Enzo. Ferrari lost something in the mid 90s.

I think Infiniti has some nice cars.

Hybrids/electrics still use non renewable resources (rare Earth metal based batteries) so we should be looking elsewhere, even though I think there’s neat racing applications.