People that call the Z4 a girly car are crazy

" V8 Rustler" (handschaltgetriebe6) 04/08/2015 at 02:44 • Filed to: None

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Just look at that long hood. Looks amazing in real life.

Also let's not forget the Z4 GT3, with its High Revving V8 with ITBs.

Axial >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 03:25

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I wouldn't call it girly, but the side detailing does ruin it for me just a little bit.

 V8 Rustler > Axial 04/08/2015 at 03:31

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What do you mean? The curves, or the how the sheet metal bends in some parts.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 03:39

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For some reason I really don't like the look of the metal roof, it looks fantastic with the roof down though.

Wheelerguy >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 03:57

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BMW didn't give the Z4 GTR. That's why.

Axial >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 04:05

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The folds or, more specifically, the curved paths they take as they progress along the car's length. That kind of detailing comes off as forced.

samssun >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 04:10

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Never knew the Z4 was considered girly, unless you just mean their general preference for convertibles. I always thought it was the Z3 and 1-series considered girly.

MC_Leon6494 >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 04:30

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I'm gonna argue it's trying too hard. I think the proportions are a bit off, the hood is so long especially for a car that comes with an I4 or I6 (and a not terribly large one at that) under the hood. It's incredibly exaggerated and in person the front just looks way too long to me. They're styling the car for people who think 5 inches is actually 8 inches and who think that it matters.

Jobjoris >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 04:54

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The E85 certainly wasn't. The E89 is though. It was even designed by girls: Nadya Armamout and Juliane Blasi.

Leon711 >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 04:54

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People that call any two seat rear drive sports car girly are wrong.

PS9 >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 07:04

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"That's a girls car." Is what someone says when they have no security at all in their sense of masculinity.

Matthew Phillips >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 07:57

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it's ugly...

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jobjoris 04/08/2015 at 08:32

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What does that make the Hudson Hornet?

Milky > MC_Leon6494 04/08/2015 at 09:34

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You sound like someone who is butthurt about being only 4 inches ;)

That was right there, had to. But really though, what engines are longer than an I-6? A V12 by half a cylinder? IMHO Its beautiful because its proportions are based off mechanicals. No wasted space here.

Unlike the AMG GT which has 2 feet of room for air boxes between the engine and radiator.

Milky >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 09:48

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Want, want ,want, want, want.

Seriously I would only be considering this for my next car if the idea of owning a BMW out of warranty didn't slightly scare me.

It just looks fucking right.

and if 300hp ever gets boring, you can add boost and wide body.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 09:57

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They likely also haven't driven one on a track. I have the E85 LCI version (softtop, and high output N52 motor) and it's incredibly well-balanced and doesn't jiggle about (Which is rare for a convertible. Just drive an old Saab droptop in comparison).

The E86 coupes were, if I remember correctly, the BMW with the most torsional rigidity of anything in the product portfolio at the time (Mid and late 2000s), and the E85 softtop was the stiffest convertible they were building at the time.

Jobjoris > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 04/08/2015 at 10:19

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I would not know as I know next to nothing about 50's land yachts. But do enlighten me!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jobjoris 04/08/2015 at 10:20

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Designed by a woman, but not a particularly "girly" car.

Jobjoris > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 04/08/2015 at 10:31

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Oh that way. Well, I've driven/tracked/owned the E85 and that was awesome. Trying the E89 to see it fit for replacing the E85 was kind of a let down. Hardly the dynamic driver's car the E85 was. Good drive but more cruising orientated.

'Girly' to some.

Stef Schrader >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 11:27

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I hate that term. The Z4 GT3 is a thing that I want.

MC_Leon6494 > Milky 04/08/2015 at 12:36

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wow that amg is wasting space. And yeah there isn't much wasted spaced in the z4, I guess I just think the second generation z4 looks exaggerated compared to the earlier ones.

Dr_Watson >  V8 Rustler 04/08/2015 at 13:26

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Soft, heavy, cruiser, with no manual option. Not a girly car, but not a driver's car either. It's the new sc430.

 V8 Rustler > Milky 04/08/2015 at 23:51

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Now that looks stupid. It looks like it has two engines in series.

 V8 Rustler > Stef Schrader 04/08/2015 at 23:53

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Have you heard one in real life?

 V8 Rustler > Milky 04/08/2015 at 23:55

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I also want one, but no M version means no LSD, which sucks big time. Out of warranty turbo BMW scares me. Maybe the E85 Z4M is a better option.

 V8 Rustler > Leon711 04/08/2015 at 23:55

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This is true.

 V8 Rustler > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/08/2015 at 23:56

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How does the Z4 fare without an LSD?

 V8 Rustler > samssun 04/08/2015 at 23:57

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>1M
>girly

 V8 Rustler > Dr_Watson 04/09/2015 at 00:00

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Not in the USA, but you can order it with Manuel in Europe:

And it is a driver's car. 50:50,RWD, Manual.

 V8 Rustler > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 04/09/2015 at 00:01

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Maybe you don't like that it is not body colored?

 V8 Rustler > Matthew Phillips 04/09/2015 at 00:01

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It's not.

 V8 Rustler > Wheelerguy 04/09/2015 at 00:01

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What is a Z4 GTR.

Textured Soy Protein >  V8 Rustler 04/09/2015 at 00:13

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I like the old one better. Especially in M form it's more of a sports car. The current 3.0si is probably a bit quicker than the old M, but it's also more of a cruiser.

Wheelerguy >  V8 Rustler 04/09/2015 at 00:34

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Like the M3 GTR, but Z4. Or like the Z4 GT3, but toned down a bit.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. >  V8 Rustler 04/09/2015 at 05:41

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I think it's because the roof doesn't seem to suit the lines of the car, looks a little unusual to my eyes. I still think it's a better looker than the likes of the 370Z and SLK though.

Milky >  V8 Rustler 04/09/2015 at 09:15

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Damn, I didn't know these didn't come with a LSD. Why do companies skimp on that when it comes to sports cars? Hell even the base Miata gets one now.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs >  V8 Rustler 04/09/2015 at 12:35

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It's reasonable, as long as you don't break traction. It's not wayward on the turn in, so long as you aren't shifting weight around the chassis like a monkey.

It's got a lot to give, and as along as you have appropriate rubber on the back, it really isn't lacking without an LSD.

OkCars- 22k Crossroads >  V8 Rustler 04/10/2015 at 01:20

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te madrraron todos.

Pero si no entiendo por que el z4 es de mujer pero el fiesta de culos no.

 V8 Rustler > OkCars- 22k Crossroads 04/10/2015 at 18:47

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Estan locos aqui en Oppo

 V8 Rustler > Milky 04/10/2015 at 18:48

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Yes, all Muscle cars have LSD as standard now, but BMW still doesn't include one unless it is a real M car.

WINGZERO >  V8 Rustler 04/11/2015 at 10:09

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The hard tops are cool.