Sunday DIY

"yamahog" (yamahog) 03/29/2015 at 15:45 • Filed to: DIY

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Believe it or not, living in a 2-Jalop household has its downsides. Today, we tackled the #firstworldproblems of too many keys and too many spare license plates by making a his n hers keyring holder out of a slab of oak, license plates, and brass hooks:

Step 1: Gather your supplies, tools, and hardware. We used a drill, pop rivet gun, angle grinder (don't forget your protective gear), license plates, screwdriver, brass wood screws, washers, and hooks.

Step 2: Scrub down the license plates. Mine were pretty gross because they'd been on my Explorer and Jeep, but nothing some spray duster and hot water couldn't manage.

Step 3: Mark out and cut your license plates, leaving an inch or so of overlap for the rivets. We used an angle grinder, but you could probably get away with using tin snips as well.

Step 4: No pictures, but after making the cuts, we clamped the plates together and drilled holes through both for the pop rivets. Rivet together, starting with the center, then drill the top holes, rivet, bottom holes, rivet, and fill in the blanks.

Step 5: Line up your franken-plate on your slab of wood, use a pencil to mark off the centers of the holes/slots, keeping in mind that you have to fit the hooks on there as well. If you're using oak like us, pre-drill undersized holes before putting in screws/washers by hand.

Step 6: Measure out and pencil in your intervals for the key hooks. Pre-drill undersized holes.

Step 7: Add hooks and mounting provisions of choice, hang it up, and load it up with your keys. See, just because we have a 3/8ths wrench chilling next to the bathroom sink doesn't mean we're disorganized!

You'll notice there are some placeholders on there too ;)

DrJohannVegas > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 15:48

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I am shakin' my head at the UM plate...

PanchoVilleneuve ST > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 15:48

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PURE MYORK!

yamahog > PanchoVilleneuve ST 03/29/2015 at 15:51

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PURE MY ORK

PanchoVilleneuve ST > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 15:51

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Red wunz go fasta.

bshappy > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 15:51

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Go Blue!

yamahog > DrJohannVegas 03/29/2015 at 15:53

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Psh, the degree cost $200k, what's another $50 or so for a plate? We have another half left over if you want ;)

jvirgs drives a Subaru > PanchoVilleneuve ST 03/29/2015 at 15:53

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PURE MYORK

Universitye State

yamahog > bshappy 03/29/2015 at 15:54

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Go Blue! c/o 2012 :)

CB > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 15:55

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Very nice! Getting close to one of the placeholders being filled, eh?

PS9 > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 15:56

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I'm still not sure fusing together like two anime characters was a good idea for the state of Michyork, but it sure did get them far more power in the house of representatives. They have more representatives now than Texas.

I'm honestly hoping this fusion trend stops. Florida doesn't need to get any bigger than it already is.

yamahog > CB 03/29/2015 at 15:56

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Thanks! And yes, it was built yesterday, and my dealer says it'll be delivered by mid-April latest.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 15:57

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I might be alive that year telling kids that cars didn't hover and that the internets was a series of tubes.

CB > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 15:59

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Awwww yeah. Just in time for burnout season.

yamahog > PS9 03/29/2015 at 16:00

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If I wanted to go full Gundam or Super Saiyan or whatever, we could've riveted California on as well. ALL HAIL TEH MASSIVE HYBRID STATE OF MICHIFORNIYORK.

Agrajag > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 16:08

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I've been meaning to make something like this, but didn't just want a plain wooden board. The license plates were a nice touch.

I currently just have 3 adhesive backed hooks as a place holder.

yamahog > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 03/29/2015 at 16:09

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Shit, I'd be 87 by then, I don't know if I can handle the expectations of wisdom that come with such advanced age.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 16:19

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Just don't be senile like grandpa Simpson.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 20:08

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Too bad that's a gold NY plate. Looks great though!

yamahog > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback 03/29/2015 at 20:16

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Thanks! I have a classic blue and white NY plate, but it was one of my grandmother's custom ones so I didn't want to hack it up. It has a spot of honor in our garage :)

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > yamahog 03/29/2015 at 21:53

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That's nice! I guess it's better to hack up the golds and preserve the old Empire plates.

Flat Six > yamahog 03/30/2015 at 10:38

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Great idea, thanks for sharing!

HammerheadFistpunch > yamahog 06/17/2015 at 16:25

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Hey Yamahog, Hammerhead here (duh). Just wanted to get back to you on the issue that came up the other day with Bigblock. We’ve spent a long time discussing this as a group and have come to the conclusion that while everyone in the shit fight got covered, you went our of your way to fling shit i.e harass BigBlock. I want to make it clear that BigBlock has his share of the blame and is getting a similar comment from us. I also want to make it clear this has nothing to do with the context of the comments (i.e. who was right or wrong re: sexism/trans/race). When we all looked at it, discussed it and debated it we voted that the hostile way you comported yourself in the comments is worthy of warning. Again, this isn’t related to the context of the debate, that is something we will be dealing with in regards to our comments directed at BigBlock, this is an issue of you taking it personal and going on the attack.

What does this warning mean? Because of the .kinja changeover we’re looking at our policies and rules and making more clear who we handle things like this. The new policy is simple and clear:

1. First offence - Warning

2. Second offence - Lose of authorship on Oppo (still can comment, not grayed, not banned). Petitions to reclaim authorship are debated before the group.

3. Third offense - Ban

On a personal level, I get it. We all do. Things get heated and passions bubble close to the surface, none of us are immune it to it. We all need to be vigilant to keep our emotions in check here and elsewhere. We like you here, you are a valued contributor, we hope you stick around and enjoy Oppo with us. Thanks for your time.

yamahog > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2015 at 17:09

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Thanks for taking the time, can you point out any specific things which were objectionable?

HammerheadFistpunch > yamahog 06/17/2015 at 17:13

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I have to be honest with you and tell you that I don’t have any interest of digging into that can of worms. I will say that how you say something is as important as what you say. If its any consolation, we got after BigBlock for the same kinds of tone issues.

Xyl0c41n3 > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2015 at 17:19

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But just so were clear, this isn’t an attempt to silence anyone, right? Because it seems awfully similar to an attempt to force silence.

HammerheadFistpunch > Xyl0c41n3 06/17/2015 at 17:25

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Nope. As in: nope we are not getting into that. Period. This is discussion between the moderators and Yamahog. I guess I should take this opportunity, since you are here for some reason... to point out that in our discussions the moderators found that you showed a level of civility and restraint that didn’t warrant a discussion like this between us. Make no mistake, you were hanging in that shit fight with the others, but we were happy to see comport yourself in accordance with the rules. So thanks, have a great day.

yamahog > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2015 at 17:30

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I’ll be honest as well: it would be of absolutely no consolation to hear that arbitrarily judged tones (his and mine) seem to be the bigger issue in this case than the persistent transphobia, which is allegedly against The Rules, not to mention egregiously disrespectful to our openly trans members. If you (collective you) don’t actually care to keep this place free from transphobia/racism/sexism, just stop saying you do and it’ll make things so much clearer.

Xyl0c41n3 > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2015 at 17:37

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Where are the cookies? I like chocolate chip and snickerdoodles. Do I get any cookies?

HammerheadFistpunch > yamahog 06/17/2015 at 17:46

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I understand that you have strong feelings regarding this issue, but if you can’t have a civil debate on the topic on this forum...a topic which is mired in controversy of which difference of opinion are not only likely but ensured or even varied levels of education/understanding...than that IS the issue. I guess the long and short of it is that there is a difference between a debate on the topics of sex/gender/trans/cis and using those topics for the purpose of discrimination or hate. Using sexists or transphobic language or images with blatant intent to disparage or discriminate is what we have no tolerance. I’m not defending his views on the matter, but I am defending his rights to discuss them in a civil environment.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Xyl0c41n3 06/17/2015 at 17:52

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None.

thanks for taking the time to comment, have a great day!

Xyl0c41n3 > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 06/17/2015 at 17:57

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Sharing is caring, though. Likewise!

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Xyl0c41n3 06/17/2015 at 18:12

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Just keep being a good user on Oppo. Yamahog can stand to learn a lot from you.

thanks for taking the time to comment, have a great day!

yamahog > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2015 at 18:16

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If we could stop with the continued use of your perception of my emotions to discredit my statements and talk down to me, that’d be great. Anyway.

Misgendering someone after being repeatedly corrected is blatant transphobia.

Referring to a trans person as a “ body kit on a Fiero ” is most certainly “transphobic language or images with blatant intent to disparage or discriminate.”

I don’t think either example constitutes a “civil environment.” But if you can’t even provide me with an example of what I did to warrant a warning besides essentially ‘watch your mouth,’ then I have no expectations of an explanation as to what aspects of my tone are considered uncivilized while repeated transphobia and trans erasure is apparently considered civil conversation.

HammerheadFistpunch > yamahog 06/17/2015 at 18:24

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Okay, lets cut the continued assumptions that i am trying to talking down to you or are out to get you then, fair?

“ I think I have dug far enough to find that nobody really knows the answers has any more patience for my continued willful ignorance.”

This quote should have all you need. it has both the reasons he and you were warned. Its here you literally crossed the line to attack.

Xyl0c41n3 > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 06/17/2015 at 18:32

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Yamahog is a fantastic Oppo. I admire her greatly and wish I knew even half as much stuff as she does. I still have much to learn from her . Meanwhile, I’ll keep being the loud-mouthed Latina I’ve always been. Thanks for your gold star approval (too bad it’s not Jalopnik gold), but it is entirely unnecessary. You have yourself a great evening.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Xyl0c41n3 06/17/2015 at 18:37

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Keep doing so...just don’t stir shit and we won’t come after you

thanks

Clay...Bill Clay > yamahog 06/17/2015 at 18:39

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The tears well up in pride for E State University in beautiful Purem York

DrJohannVegas > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2015 at 18:46

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Edited for word fragments. Warning without the “three-step” explanation. Mea culpa.

HammerheadFistpunch > DrJohannVegas 06/17/2015 at 18:48

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oh?

Xyl0c41n3 > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 06/17/2015 at 18:49

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That sounds like a threat.

DrJohannVegas > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2015 at 18:51

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See above. I am gonna go ahead and warn myself on this one.

HammerheadFistpunch > DrJohannVegas 06/17/2015 at 18:55

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Based on or previous conversation i don't feel i need to add anymore to this.

yamahog > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2015 at 19:06

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I don’t think anyone’s out to get me. That’d be petty as hell.

And it’s there I literally threw in the towel on that discussion, actually. Thanks for coming up with something, though it’s still seriously disappointing to have zero resolution on the actual transphobia itself.

Gamecat235 > yamahog 06/17/2015 at 19:26

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From my view, the transphobia was coming from someone who completely refused (or couldn’t) to see reason, logic, or science. The only reason he wasn’t banned or similarly warned is because we couldn’t tell if he was actually that dense or just playing at it (I have my suspicions).

His questions still irritate me. But PaulJones responded better than I could have.

Total aside, I still want this place to be one of inclusion, not exclusion. I personally apologize if you don’t think we’re meeting that.

And on that note, I need a beer.

desertdog5051 > yamahog 06/17/2015 at 19:30

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Very cool. Don’t forget to tell the folks that those are finish washers.

Not to be confused with swedish, norway, flat, lock, fender, dish or clothes washers.

desertdog5051 > Agrajag 06/17/2015 at 19:32

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Go to Lowe’s. In the hardware dept. they have address boards that are nicely edged.

yamahog > Gamecat235 06/17/2015 at 20:47

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His perceived intent doesn’t make it any more or less transphobic though... Xyl0 reported someone for transphobic comments (which to my knowledge remains unaddressed), in response I’ve been told to watch my tone (subject to whims undefined) or else, while Snap runs around flaunting his tone left and right (not to mention appearing to have serious grudge issues), and now we’ve been deterred from doing anything but shutting up and/or leaving. What the actual fuck.

Apology accepted, though once again I wonder why I bother :(

*hands Gamecat a large beer*

HammerheadFistpunch > yamahog 06/18/2015 at 00:18

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I think I should step in and say that the reason you got “tone” instead of a specific example was to avoid additional drama not to create it. tactic failed on my part. My goal was defuse, not escalate, I take responsibility for failing in that effort.

Xyl0c41n3 > HammerheadFistpunch 06/18/2015 at 00:33

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The transphobia issue remains unaddressed.

this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 06/18/2015 at 01:34

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Oppo had such a warmer tone back in the ol’ pneumatic days. This modern digital crap you kids are using to bitch about autonomous automobiles and lack of brown-ness just takes all the soul out of it.

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 06/18/2015 at 01:55

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My mother in law used to stir cow pies with a stick. She grew up on a farm in Ohio though, so I guess that makes it okay. I could use some bacon.

LongbowMkII > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 06/18/2015 at 06:49

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come after you? nice. good moderation!

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > LongbowMkII 06/18/2015 at 07:08

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Thanks!

pauljones > yamahog 06/18/2015 at 10:58

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I love all of you to death, but frankly, you all sometimes bewilder the hell of me. Granted, that’s in no small part due to my own ignorance, but there are nevertheless a few things I’d like to address here:

His perceived intent doesn’t make it any more or less transphobic though...

That is completely true. The words he typed out were indeed transphobic, irrespective of the context that they are taken in. That being said, intention does matter. Remember that post about the guy who got a tattoo of an alternator and thought it was a turbo? Yeah, he’s an ignorant moron when it comes to automotive parts. But, then, he also wasn’t trying to be an asshole or an ignorant moron. He was just too ignorant to realize just how ignorant he was, if that makes any sense. While that example isn’t quite on the same plane as the transphobic ignorance previously displayed by any means, the underlying concept is much the same. He’s simply too ignorant to understand just how ignorant he really is.

In and of itself that can be helped, but if he wants that help; only if he wants to understand. It seems very clear to me that he is perfectly content to be ignorant in this regards. As sad as that is, there’s not much that anyone, much less you or me, can do to change that. At some point, after having attempted to have a civil discussion only to get more ignorance in response, it’s best to simply not waste the energy any further.

Xyl0 reported someone for transphobic comments (which to my knowledge remains unaddressed)

I addressed them personally. I saw that they were flagged, I understood why they were flagged, and I handled it. When I do something like that, though, that does not mean that I’m going to tell anyone else about it. There was a problem that was pointed, and it was addressed. If it happens again, I will look into further measures. But otherwise, beyond the initial flagging of a problem, the resolution of that problem is the business of no one save the mod and the individual in question. I am not beholden to report to anyone on such matters, and nor would it be proper to do so.

Please bear in mind - just because you don’t hear anything further on the matter doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been addressed.

in response I’ve been told to watch my tone (subject to whims undefined) or else

I’m not going to lie, most people here simply don’t have a way with words. At all. I have seen examples that you are inherently pointing at here, and I completely understand where you’re coming from. I think that in many cases, the topic that was meant to be addressed was not the topic that was addressed based on the word choice.

From what I understand, there’s a perception that you are a take-no-bullshit person - and when you see bullshit, you call it out for being the bullshit that it is. More power to you, I like seeing stuff like that. But sometimes, there might be better ways of addressing that bullshit. You can be pretty damn aggressive about it, and that’s something I’ve also seen. I don’t criticize you for it and I don’t necessarily think that you’re in the wrong. I do, however, sometimes think that a little more of a cold, rational approach might be better depending on the situation. Ultimately, that, I think, is what has been meant to be communicated.

But I absolutely agree that that isn’t necessarily what was actually communicated, and as a result, I understand your perspective and no one can fault you for it.

And the next counterpoint that comes from that - does that not implicitly hold you to a higher standard than the drivel that frequently infests this place? Yes. Yes it does. I am holding you to a higher standard than those morons. Why? Because I know you’re better. You are an individual with depth, knowledge, intelligence, enthusiasm, and the ability to communicate it all. That’s not only a pretty goddamned rare thing around here, it’s a pretty goddamned rare thing in life in general. Congratulations, you are in both blessed and cursed by being in, like, the 1% of humanity. The blessing is that it can be quite the wonderful world out there. The curse is that it can also be quite the terrible world out there when you realize how many morons there really are.

The other curse to that is the simple curse of cognition. If you are aware of a potential for a higher standard, then you are held to the responsibility of trying to meet that higher standard. Personally, I fail that standard on a regular basis. A look through my commenting history will illustrate that quite nicely. I really do try, though.

All of this is not meant to justify holding you or anyone else to a higher standard. It’s not meant to make you think it’s fair. It’s simply meant to explain why people like you and me are held to a higher standard. It sucks, but there it is. If nothing else, the boat isn’t empty, and I’m honored to be in the same boat as you in that regard.

while Snap runs around flaunting his tone left and right (not to mention appearing to have serious grudge issues)

...and now a more difficult topic. Frankly, I have no idea how to even approach this one, as I’m not quite sure I fully grasp it in its entirety just yet. That being said, I won’t shy away from addressing the little pieces of it that I do (I think) grasp.

Before I do, however, I’ll let you in on something of a little secret: I’m a renegade mod. By that I mean that I have little outside interaction with the other mods here. In addition to the moderator email account (which I do not have access to), there is also an Oppomoderator group on G+. I do not have a G+ account, and therefore do not participate in that group, which is often where discussions take place. Instead, I operate somewhere on the fringes. I don’t interact much, but I quietly watch and quietly step I feel justified in doing so. If I need to communicate something to the other mods, I’ll email Gamecat235. Otherwise, I’m generally in the dark about much of what goes on here. Sometimes, it’s a pain in the ass. Other times, it’s kind of nice. While I could create a G+ account easily enough, I personally hate G+ and also somewhat enjoy a little autonomy.

What the hell does that have to do with the topic at hand? Well...

Snap is an interesting character, just like the rest of us. He certainly has his own (very strong personality), just like you and I do. From the sideline fringes, I can certainly observe some tensions between various people, including you and Snap. I don’t know enough about either of you and the extent of your interactions with each other to know exactly what’s going on, though. I don’t know the full extent of Snap’s perception or his approach. All I know is what I see - there is tension. I don’t think that you or Snap are bad people or are entirely wrong or right one way or the other. But I know that there is a misunderstanding, a misperception or two, somewhere between you two.

But, being a renegade mod, so to speak, also comes with it’s drawbacks - namely, I don’t quite have the wherewithall or the ability to try to figure out what’s going on and mediate. And frankly, I’m okay with that. You two are grown adults. You don’t need me or anyone else to figure your shit out for you.

and now we’ve been deterred from doing anything but shutting up and/or leaving.

I don’t perceive that to be the case, though I do understand why you might. As I suggested to BigBlock440 the other day, a little perspective shift can be a very interesting thing. I don’t mean to say that your perspective is wrong, but I will assert that it’s one of may different perspectives. From your perspective, you see only two options. From my perspective, I see a few more than that.

What the actual fuck.

Indeed. I feel much the same way about the shit that goes down around here.

Apology accepted, though once again I wonder why I bother :(

I don’t. I know exactly why you bother. You bother with it because, quite frankly, you are a cut above most around here, and you’re too strong and too proud to let their stupidity ruin your enthusiasm. Sometimes, though, the best way to do that is to work with their stupidity, rather than against it.

*hands Gamecat a large beer*

I need one of those, too.

pauljones > Xyl0c41n3 06/18/2015 at 11:12

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Were it so easy.

Unfortunately, transphobia (like racism, sexism, etc.) did not arise overnight, and nor will they be addressed and solved over night. That’s going to take a long, long time. On a more microcosmic scale around here, it’s not an issue that we, as mods, have ever really thought about before.

Does it fit within The Rules? Absolutely. But we’ve just never seen it before, and we’re still working to so much as train ourselves to know it when we see it. Sometimes, it’s blatantly obvious - other times, to people who don’t think to look for it, it’s very subtle. We each have a lifetime of being ignorant of it. It’ll take some time to fully understand not necessarily the concept itself (which is pretty goddamn straightforward), but all the was that the concept manifests itself.

There’s also the fact that I’ve stressed over and over again, and for good reason: All of the mods here are volunteers. We do this in what time we are able to spare. While there may be a relatively large number of mods listed, the reality is that only a small handful are ever active at any given point in time. We address what we see, but we do not, and cannot, see everything.

In otherwords, please be patient. We’re trying. Oppositelock is a big place, and we are constantly faced with new issues that we had never even remotely imagined.

I was promised oatmeal chocolate chip cookies once upon time. I never did get them. Oh well. Welcome to dark side, the cookies were a lie.