What the fuck Musk?

"BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion" (pbs) 03/17/2015 at 19:01 • Filed to: None

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As you probably already know, Elon Musk went to say that driving is too dangerous for humans. Oooh, scary. I'm a human and I just drove home, I could've DIED! Can't wait for an autonomous car to take my place, so the software can crash in the middle of a crash, miss all the streets and exits because GPS is a fairy tale, and fail to integrate itself with the virtual environment that does not exist in Brazil, nor will it in one year's time, as predicted by Muskrat.

Really, how much insulated do you have to be for some people to actually feel it's safe enough?

GeorgeyBoy > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 19:04

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You could've died and I've known people close to me that have died.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 19:06

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I'm just laughing at all the people(car enthusiasts too) that praised him as the messiah and savior of cars. And Muskrat? That's a good one. :p

Here's your "Muskrat"!(in the form of the luvable dog you thought he was). This gif is almost metaphorical!

I keed tho, but I still don't like him nor have I ever.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > GeorgeyBoy 03/17/2015 at 19:07

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Ah, who are we kidding, we could ALL have died!

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 03/17/2015 at 19:08

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Yeah, same here. I remember when the front page stopped bashing on him, but it was because he actually turned his company into something of a success. Not financial success, I guess, but still, his projects were actually moving forward.

Still, if he wants to get me out of the driver's seat, he'll have to kill me first. Bonus points if he can do it in a fiery carsplosion

GeorgeyBoy > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 19:09

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No trying to come off as a dick but driving is a serious thing. Pretty barbaric when you think about it. I think the statistics speak for themselves.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > GeorgeyBoy 03/17/2015 at 19:12

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I agree it is serious business, and also that we have too many morons on the road today, but we have morons everywhere in life, and learning to deal with them is just part of it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't see my future self strapped to a personal bubble to insulate and protect me from the outside world. I like the outside world, with or without morons!

MrDakka > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 19:15

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Civilian GPS is a fairly shitty fairy tale. As for the whole autonomous car being better drivers, the sad thing is, it's probably true for the majority of drivers depending on the hardware.

Still won't take the road from me

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 19:23

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I did see an accident on my way home today. So its true driving is dangerous.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > MrDakka 03/17/2015 at 19:24

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Exactly. If you go to Argentina, for example, you're better off with a 30 pesos road map than an expensive Garmin unit, which won't recognize several major expressways, directing you to shitty, pothole ridden roads that not even the locals use anymore because they're not dumb enough to trust a GPS.

deekster_caddy > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 19:24

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Next they won't let me go hike up a mountain, we'll all have to ride up in the chairlifts!

deekster_caddy > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 19:26

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Go watch Wall-E if you haven't. That's what we are going to end up like to protect ourselves from ourselves...

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > deekster_caddy 03/17/2015 at 19:28

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And the chairlifts will be completely enclosed, with CGI mountains projected directly into a monitor, so you don't risk damaging your eyesight by staring at something dangerous, like the sun.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > deekster_caddy 03/17/2015 at 19:29

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That's exactly what first came to mind, hahaha...

Axial > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 19:34

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Musk doesn't want people to be banned from driving, he's saying that they probably will be. And he's likely right. Insurance companies will make it easy because they'll make premiums for cars that don't have autopilot functions, or drivers that don't use them, astronomical. They have a guaranteed market regardless, so it makes no difference to them whether your car is automated or not. People will be all too happy to be banned from driving themselves because it will save them money.

The thing is, when you aren't allowed to drive yourself, the whole point of cars in general becomes asinine. Why the fuck would you fill highways crammed with automated cars carrying between 2 and 8 people when we're also trying to reduce environmental impact (his company's raison d'ętre)? You wouldn't. That's inefficient because you have extra mass per-person for the vehicle. You would replace that highway system entirely with mass-transit. The cars only become useful in getting people from their homes to the transit hubs. That, in turn, can be filled by trolleys or regular buses.

That leaves only people in rural areas out of the loop. Those guys? They need cars, and cars in that environment are at a dramatically reduced risk of running into each other.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback 03/17/2015 at 19:36

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I like to think about this in the same way I do about airless tires. Ever since I was put on this world, I think I was involved with, maybe, two punctures, and even that is a stretch, as one of them was caused by a drunk friend driving over the median and slashing his tire open. Two punctures in 25 years of existence is hardly Worth reinventing the wheel over.

Like I said, I know people are morons, but stopping a few accidents by reinventing the car seems hardly worth it.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > Axial 03/17/2015 at 19:45

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Meh, he only took it back because people didn't react the way he was expecting. And those rural areas are actually everywhere outside of the US and Europe, and maybe Japan. I don't see an autonomous car working anywhere here in Brazil in 50 years, let alone the one year Muskrat's proclaiming. It just won't happen, autonomous cars require a kind of infrastructure we simply don't have.

FalconHoon > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 20:01

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This is the reason for autonomous cars.

"caused by a drunk friend driving over the median and slashing his tire open"

There are a lot more then a "few accidents"

FalconHoon > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 20:02

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Was Musk talking about Brazil?

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > FalconHoon 03/17/2015 at 20:04

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Yeah, see I won't actually reply to that. Nope.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > FalconHoon 03/17/2015 at 20:06

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Yes, I know my friend is an idiot for doing that, and yes, I totally expect him to get killed doing it.

That's still not worth reinventing the car for. I live in a country where people are gunned every day for as low as 20 bucks. Do you really think I'm coward enough to be worrying about other drivers?

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > FalconHoon 03/17/2015 at 20:07

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No, in fact, I will: America, grow a fucking pair!

ToddyDotty > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 20:21

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You see that's why the tesla model s is aimed at upper crust folks and those who enjoy actually driving. Once they start catching fire like Ferraris and exploding like Pintos soon not a single good driver will be left and thankfully that one dude who thought he was so green when he bought one. Money is green and if people cannot see that that's the only green thing about Tesla then let their blood run red. BUT YEAH NO ONE ON THIS THREAD IS PARANOID... TIN FOIL HATS...

Axial > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/17/2015 at 20:35

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Autonomous cars can technically happen anywhere, because it can be (and has been) built to work with measurements of the area made by just your vehicle. It doesn't have to depend on communications with other cars, the roads themselves, etc.

That said, I was more or less saying that rural areas probably feature far less accidents due to low traffic density and thus don't really need autonomous cars. I'm right there with you, though, in saying people need to grow some thicker skins, stronger stomachs, and lengthier spines.

FalconHoon > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/18/2015 at 05:10

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Sorry, was on a brief break at work when I asked that, did not have time to see the video...

Also not American. Though I'm not sure if that's what you were suggesting? It's been a long day lol the shovel I spent the day with wasn't much conversation

FalconHoon > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/18/2015 at 05:18

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Ok, so Musk wasn't talking to you specifically.

I'm not going to pretend that I could know what that's like, so I cannot pass any judgement, and I'm really trying not to sound like an ignorant assailed.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 03/18/2015 at 07:53

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Elon Musk's Preferred attire for leaving the safety of his home:

Everything is just too dangerous

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > FalconHoon 03/18/2015 at 16:45

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I figured you weren't, what I meant was these panics usually get started in America and then spread everywhere else. The insurance industry is a thing over there for a reason, people just... get scared. Panic out of fucking nowhere.