"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
03/15/2015 at 20:24 • Filed to: None | 4 | 100 |
What is the worse car interior that you've actually sat in. For me it's the 08-10 Seabring. In a picture it looks bad but it doesn't even come close to how bad everything feels.
a Close second maybe even tied to the Seabring, is the Buick Rendezvous. This "luxury" cousin of the Aztec is in my opinion even worse than the original.
The worst thing is both of these are from so call luxury brands. Altho it's safe to say both brand have made a 180 in terms of both style and quality.
jkm7680
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:26 | 3 |
Flavien Vidal
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:27 | 2 |
It looked old when new....
Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
> jkm7680
03/15/2015 at 20:28 | 6 |
that wheel looks like...
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> jkm7680
03/15/2015 at 20:28 | 0 |
That is one goofy looking steering wheel. looks like a dog bone.
jkm7680
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:29 | 0 |
That's why it's so horrible. Just look at that steering wheel, EUUCHHHHH.
jkm7680
> Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
03/15/2015 at 20:29 | 0 |
What the fuck is that anyways?
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Flavien Vidal
03/15/2015 at 20:29 | 0 |
what is that? also I like it.. if its from 1985
Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:29 | 1 |
Skoda Felicia, we had one for about two years.
We paid £450 for it. It didn't even have power steering. Pretty reliable thing though.
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:30 | 5 |
Interior was coming apart by 15k miles. 2005 Impala
Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
> jkm7680
03/15/2015 at 20:30 | 0 |
headcrab from Half-life.
V8 Rustler
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:31 | 10 |
Dodge Caliber. The interior materials are horrible.
jkm7680
> Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
03/15/2015 at 20:31 | 0 |
Haha, I'm too lazy but somebody needs to shoop that into the Neon.
Gaseous Clay
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:31 | 1 |
Base model '05 Chevy Colorado:
Nothing really offensive about it styling wise (it is a pickup after all, how it looks doesn't really matter) but the seats were so uncomfortable that I lost a few fillings driving down a smooth bit of motorway for an hour. I'd have preferred anything, fromwooden bench seats, stadium seats, to even driving from a standing position. Anything.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
03/15/2015 at 20:32 | 1 |
same problem with the Ren dez vooz when I sold cars we had a used one and EVERYTHING was falling apart or already had.
ranwhenparked
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:34 | 0 |
Possibly a Chevy Beretta. Though the Dodge Shadow and the late 90s Malibu offer strong competition.
F10M5
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:35 | 1 |
Chery QQ, a cheap ass chinese car. The whole interior feels like a chinese toy that will break in a few hours of use.
Flavien Vidal
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:36 | 0 |
Well, it is... Not the model year, but it came out in 1985 as an '86 model. It's an Alpine GTA.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> jkm7680
03/15/2015 at 20:37 | 4 |
I've seen worse. In my wife's car.
Aaron M - MasoFiST
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:38 | 1 |
I owned a 1997 Bonneville. The interior was appalling. The buttons reminded me of Playskool children's toys, except without the durability.
jkm7680
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:39 | 0 |
Cavalier?
The bolsters look quite nice on that. I do like the similar style of wheel in the later generation C4 Corvettes, the Impala SS and the Caprice 9c1.
NotUnlessRoundIsFunny
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:39 | 1 |
Dodge Caliber:
Round headlight enthusiast
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:39 | 0 |
uggggh I know that cavalier wheel
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
03/15/2015 at 20:40 | 3 |
I miss unassisted steering. Then again the last car I had without it didn't need it.
1991 Civic. my baby.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> V8 Rustler
03/15/2015 at 20:41 | 0 |
Oh it was bad at The SRT4 had a real boost gauge tho.
Round headlight enthusiast
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:41 | 5 |
Everything in here feels 10x worse than you think it does. Guaranteed. There's still lines from molding left obviously behing on the plastic
Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:42 | 0 |
This car was a complete pain to park because of the lack of power steering. I much prefer to have it.
Logansteno: Bought a VW?
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:43 | 0 |
It's a tie between the Safari or my M3. The Safari is just typical '80 developed GM and the E36 is just terrible for a luxury car. So much plastic. Well put together plastic but still plastic. It matches my girlfriend's mom's '09 Avenger IMO.
Nymphicus Hollandicus
> Gaseous Clay
03/15/2015 at 20:44 | 1 |
I was looking at a WB trim level '04 yesterday, the interior is comical!
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Round headlight enthusiast
03/15/2015 at 20:45 | 2 |
cringe *shutters*
The Gran Am was worse though.
V8 Rustler
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:46 | 1 |
And incredible amounts of torque steer.
Svend
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:46 | 1 |
With this Buick it wasn't Buick designers it was Vauxhall/Opel and Buick took it to the U.S. and put their badges on it.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> V8 Rustler
03/15/2015 at 20:47 | 0 |
It is a car that makes you giggle. I've considered buying one, on more than one occasion.
Blake Noble
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:48 | 5 |
For me, it's probably the 2000 - 2005 Chevrolet Impala. I mean, just look at that hot mess of injection molded plastic.
My mother owned a 2004 Chevrolet Impala when I was a kid in middle school. It was the base model with no frills — it actually had a goddamned cassette deck — and painted charcoal gray. It also had a column shifter and bench seat (like the one pictured).
Now don't get me wrong. A column shifter and bench seat is more than acceptable in a pickup truck. It's also more than okay in a full-sized, body-on-frame cop car or a Clinton-era Buick sedan. But in a dowdy, front-drive mainstream, "We gotta compete to stomp out the Japanese threat, dammit!" sedan from the early 2000s? There ain't no reason or rhyme for that shit.
I remember thinking to myself one day the interior — with it's shitty plastic woodgrain, bench seat, column shifter, nasty gray plastics, and simpleton-level ergonomics — would look more at home in a Ford F-150 U-Haul box truck. From 1991.
For comparison's sake, here's most of the interior out of a '91 F-150:
See what I mean (sort of)?
I also remember that the plastic still had a hell of a lot of flashing left around the HVAC vents. It was just a real mess of an interior, and someone at GM needs to be crucified for approving it for production.
Boxer_4
> V8 Rustler
03/15/2015 at 20:49 | 1 |
Not only are the materials themselves bad, but the textures chosen make things worse. The red color doesn't do it any favors.
The air vents were the flimsiest I've ever seen or felt, too.
Nymphicus Hollandicus
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 20:50 | 0 |
For me it had to have been the Pontiac Montana, absolutely horrendous!
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> Svend
03/15/2015 at 20:54 | 0 |
Those seats look nice.
TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut
> jkm7680
03/15/2015 at 20:59 | 0 |
That dumb steering wheel looks like it's been fitted upside down.
jkm7680
> TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut
03/15/2015 at 21:00 | 1 |
That's the thing. It looks like it really could work either way. Extra points for being evil and taking the Dodge emblem off so there really is no way of telling. Knowing that it's a Neon, it'll probably be coming off either way though.
thebigbossyboss
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:01 | 1 |
Worst car interiors? Danfo. Creature comforts: None.
TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:03 | 0 |
The Shuanghuan Noble, known to you and me as the Smart Fortwo clone.
Looks adequate in the picture, but I sat in one at an auto show and it was garbage. Poor fitment, exposed screws, enormous panel gaps and wobbly indicators. I'd like Chinese cars to start making an impact on the world, but not like this.
norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:06 | 4 |
1994 Mustang GT. One I was in had white inserts on the dash, wheel was black, and white leather.
Svend
> Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
03/15/2015 at 21:06 | 0 |
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Svend
03/15/2015 at 21:06 | 2 |
bringing in Vauxhalls, Opels, and Holdens is, was, and will always be the best way to improve GM in the US.
TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut
> jkm7680
03/15/2015 at 21:06 | 0 |
Ah, but this steering wheel gets the most points for looking so hilariously derp.
jkm7680
> TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut
03/15/2015 at 21:08 | 0 |
Is this what hell looks like?
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
03/15/2015 at 21:10 | 1 |
That shifter has the most awkward placement. especially for the manual.
TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut
> jkm7680
03/15/2015 at 21:11 | 1 |
HURR DURRRRRR
mazda616
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:15 | 2 |
The 2006 Chevy Malibu LT my wife had before we got married. It was an awful car all around. I was so excited when we traded it in around mid-December 2012.
Hard, cheap plastics everywhere. Things broke and fell apart constantly.
V8 Rustler
> Boxer_4
03/15/2015 at 21:17 | 1 |
It's modern equivalent:
Holy shit has dodge made a giant leap.
Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:18 | 0 |
I like the new Buick interior! I also happen to be a fan of James May.
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> Svend
03/15/2015 at 21:23 | 2 |
Those look very Volvo-esque.
PyramidHat
> Flavien Vidal
03/15/2015 at 21:25 | 0 |
Perhaps, but I do miss the days when car stereos had equalizers on them...
PyramidHat
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:26 | 1 |
You're not wrong, but to be fair, as these are better as rental cars, you're only supposed to be subjected to it for no more than a week, or so, preferably drunk.
Boxer_4
> V8 Rustler
03/15/2015 at 21:26 | 0 |
In only 6 years, too.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> mazda616
03/15/2015 at 21:30 | 0 |
at least the window buttons are on the doors.
Svend
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:32 | 0 |
Well you've the Mokka/Encore, Antara/Captiva, Cascada/Cascada, Insignia/Regal, Astra saloon/Verano, and you had the Saturn Astra, Aura, L-Series, Vue, etc...
I recon the current Astra and Corsa would sell very well indeed.
My citroen won't start
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:38 | 0 |
2009 Fiat Palio.
So awful.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> PyramidHat
03/15/2015 at 21:47 | 1 |
I guess hard plastics are easier to clean puke off of.
PyramidHat
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:52 | 0 |
No truer words. Also, plastics are less prone to be damaged if one happens to get drunk and forget to put the top up when a storm rolls in to Key West...or so I'm told...
Alex B
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:54 | 0 |
That's old GM for you! I've never been inside a GM product with the exception of my Uncle's 2013 Camaro. I would hope they've improved in terms of fit and finish. Materials seem to have improved a lot.
Andrew T. Maness
> Round headlight enthusiast
03/15/2015 at 21:56 | 0 |
I just threw up in my mouth
Andrew T. Maness
> norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
03/15/2015 at 21:56 | 0 |
Completely embodies 1994 Amurica.
traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn
> Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
03/15/2015 at 21:57 | 0 |
The Flood?
Andrew T. Maness
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:57 | 5 |
Alternate title for this post, "American Car Interiors 1983-2010"
Jack Does Cars
> Round headlight enthusiast
03/15/2015 at 21:58 | 1 |
We had a 2001 Grand Am, with no features whatsoever. But I will say, it has the coldest A/C I've ever come across. But the rest of it was 0 out-of 10.
not for canada - australian in disguise
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 21:59 | 0 |
Base model Kia Rio, not exactly terrible, just absolutely terrifyingly hypnotically bland.
El Rivinado
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 22:09 | 2 |
My friend's 2005 Saturn Ion
If GM wanted Saturn to live longer, they should've made the interior out of something other than Mattel plastic. At least the seats are reasonably comfy.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> El Rivinado
03/15/2015 at 22:13 | 0 |
the design is worst than the materials.
Round headlight enthusiast
> El Rivinado
03/15/2015 at 22:15 | 0 |
That car is just aesthetically wrong on so many levels
Svart Smart, traded in his Smart
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 22:19 | 0 |
For me personally, it's the 2005-era Saturn Vue. The interior wasn't so bad on the 2003 Vue, but subsequent years received little tweaks to make things worse. First, I direct your attention to the grey trim around the center stack. The first Vues had black plastic, nothing special, but at least it matched the black steering wheel and black buttons on the console. The grey trim was probably trying to mimic the "metallic" look popular at the time, but it looked cheap, like grey spray-paint, and it tended to flake with touch/wear. Next, take a look at the instrument cluster. Black-on-white gauges with metal rings around them. Early Vues had had white-on-black gauges that were more attractive and easier to read. Finally, note the metallic paint on the door levers. Early Vues used plain plastic that, although stuck with flashing lines, at least matched the other parts of the upper door panels. The new metallic ones matched neither the grey on the center stack nor the chrome around the gauges and looked really cheap in person, like a low-end CD stereo from a big-box store. Hard, brittle plastics everywhere.
And even ignoring all the metallic trim bits trying (failing) to add some class to the interior, one could not overlook the wavy, warped-looking plastic door panels that didn't line up with the weather stripping along the base of the windows. And I always knew when my dad's car had been to an automatic car wash because water tended to seep in around the right-rear passenger's right shoulder. I'm sorry, Spring Hill, but you had some quality issues.
itranthelasttimeiparkedit
> Blake Noble
03/15/2015 at 22:23 | 0 |
not gonna lie, I'd like a bench seat in a big sedan like that
itranthelasttimeiparkedit
> Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
03/15/2015 at 22:29 | 0 |
Bah, its not that bad (and I'm a dude with skinny arms.) I like the road feel you get better too, I'm debating pulling it out of my e30 except my wife wouldnt be able to park it
itranthelasttimeiparkedit
> Jack Does Cars
03/15/2015 at 22:30 | 0 |
My sister bitches about every other car she gets in because her damn grand am is the only car she has ever had. The interior doesn't hold up either. The sport edition v6 is at least decently quick
Textured Soy Protein
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 22:41 | 0 |
Pretty sure that *is* a Grand Am.
Jack Does Cars
> itranthelasttimeiparkedit
03/15/2015 at 22:43 | 0 |
We had the 2.4 coupe with a stick. It was slow. It was good for about 150 horsepower, and it did get 30 or so MPG. My neighbor had a manual V6 coupe (quite rare, apparently), and that thing was surprising. I distinctly remember it smelling like cat urine.
Textured Soy Protein
> Svend
03/15/2015 at 22:44 | 0 |
Here are some good ole designed-in-'Murrica current Buick interiors. Still pretty decent.
sebdel
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 22:47 | 0 |
Every example in here is a lot better than what I would call bad. You people don't know what bad is. I give you the chinese 2009 chery QQ. Any buick, any chevy, any cheap 90's daewoo or kia, any 70's lada is a lot better than this. I've never driven anything that comes close to this. A chery QQ interior couldn't compete with any 80's or 90's GM.
You can brake anything in a QQ with your hands, the seats are terrible (my sister has one, driver seat was flat and hard after the first year) the wheel is terrible, everything is hard cheap plastic, the window lever is 3 or 4mm thick and will bend 90º if you pull it. the handbrake is loose and weak, the horn buttons in the steering don't fit right. Stick is also loose and weak, the engine can be heard clearly from inside (by 40mph you're already in 5th, so is constant hig revs). It's a copy of an old daewoo matiz with worst materials, a weaker 0.8Lt 3 cyl engine and unlike the matiz this one comes with heavy power-sucking power steering. It's really, really bad.
You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 22:50 | 0 |
Rental spec PT Cruiser. I hated life before I even made it out of the lot. Even though I was visiting Chrysler HQ and was obligated to rent Chrysler stuff I said fuck it my next trip when the only Chrysler left was a PT. Got stuck in those two trips in a row and swore never again.
sebdel
> F10M5
03/15/2015 at 22:50 | 0 |
My candidate also, there's no worse interior than the QQ
AASHOUR6
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 23:05 | 0 |
mitsubidhi endeavor. Just google it
j250ex
> mazda616
03/15/2015 at 23:12 | 0 |
I had a 2014 impala rental a few weeks back. Things haven't changed much. Still a mess of plastic
Svend
> Textured Soy Protein
03/15/2015 at 23:20 | 0 |
Subtle use of wood. Though just looks like one of the many variations on Regal/Insignia trim.
The second being a non Opel/Vauxhall product.
Bricks
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/15/2015 at 23:39 | 0 |
The only interior of a car that I truly despised, it was a 2001 volkswagen new beetle, the thing was a gift from my uncle to my mom when we were having a bad time, and it was just awful, and I've also ridden in a 9th gen impala (that was probably a previous rental) and didn't hate it as much as the beetle.
Textured Soy Protein
> Svend
03/15/2015 at 23:43 | 0 |
That's a LaCrosse and an Enclave. So both aren't an Opel.
sellphones2493
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/16/2015 at 01:05 | 0 |
I (reluctantly) sold one of these while at Carmax. It's bad.
gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/16/2015 at 02:10 | 0 |
This guys DD's a Lada. Y'all have no idea about shitty interiors...
Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
> traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn
03/16/2015 at 02:44 | 0 |
no, it's a Headcrab from Half-life.
Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
> jkm7680
03/16/2015 at 02:53 | 1 |
Since I got bored overnight...
jkm7680
> Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
03/16/2015 at 07:24 | 0 |
Hahahahahaaha
C9200
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/16/2015 at 07:33 | 0 |
This may not be the worst ever, but still pretty bad IMO.
When Holden released the VE Commodore, the standard interior of the ssv spec, was modern for it's time and not a bad effort:
But, then they thought they would give the option of colour coded interiors:
Who the hell wants an orange dashboard? It also came in red or Blue
this was a factory option - not the work of a teenager with a can of vinyl spray.
BTW, can someone get me out of the grey? Authorship rights would be nice too .
Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> itranthelasttimeiparkedit
03/16/2015 at 07:52 | 0 |
When you parallel park in a tight space daily it gets old fast. Road feel wasn't exactly a priority in a Skoda Felicia...
itranthelasttimeiparkedit
> Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
03/16/2015 at 09:34 | 0 |
touche. I parallel park like 3x/year though and it probably won't be in that car
Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> itranthelasttimeiparkedit
03/16/2015 at 10:02 | 0 |
Yeah it matters less when you don't need to park or drive around tight streets all day.
YellowGoat
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/16/2015 at 10:07 | 0 |
2009 Focus. Made 6 years ago but feels like it was made in 1995. The trim pieces are probably the flimsiest and cheapest I've ever seen.
mazda616
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
03/16/2015 at 10:33 | 0 |
True. But they didn't do much good. There was a short in the wiring somewhere on that door so the window switches and door lock button only worked when they wanted to. This occurred in 2010, when the car was four-years-old. We had a laundry list of problems with the damn thing the entire time we owned it. It was in embarrassingly bad shape when we traded it in, and it was only six-years-old. And, I'm beyond meticulous with car maintenance. So it had everything done to the exact recommendations. It was just a lemon. Plain and simple. I feel bad for whoever bought it.
mazda616
> j250ex
03/16/2015 at 10:34 | 0 |
My best friend has a 2008 Impala LTZ. It's not the greatest, but it is a bit better than our Malibu was as far as overall build quality.
edu-petrolhead
> mazda616
03/16/2015 at 12:00 | 0 |
And it was sold as a mid-luxury car in Brazil...
edu-petrolhead
> My citroen won't start
03/16/2015 at 12:06 | 0 |
Hardest and shittiest plastic ever. After two seconds in the sun those plastics turn to a hippie shirt.
Manic Otti
> norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
03/16/2015 at 12:22 | 0 |
Egads! I usually like Ford interiors, but I'll make an exception in this case.
Manic Otti
> El Rivinado
03/16/2015 at 12:24 | 0 |
Why are the gauges so stupidly placed?