![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:25 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
Never. I don't trust it. (or aftermarket anything to be honest)
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Why?
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I like my cars virgin too.
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Irrational fear?
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I'll take the S class then.
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Um, ok. Plenty of aftermarket stuff is good stuff.
I wouldn't buy a shittily-assembled project car, but a car that someone had gone to the trouble of selecting quality parts for and put quality work into? Sure.
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Huh? You realize that not everything OEM is great. They have to save money and it shows up in the products. Aftermarket doesnt have to. Thats why their products are usually more expensive.
(Im talking about quality aftermarket companies, not the autozone stuff)
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:31 |
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I just replaced the OEM wheels on my Envoy with aftermarket ones because the OEMs couldn't stop corroding and leaking air at the bead.
Many aftermarket parts are as good, if not better than OEM.
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But...you buy Citroens?
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You can take that one, don't you dare touch mine.
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Yes, I don't trust them.
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I have no issues with aftermarket wheels as long as they are a known quality brand.
My biggest thing would be what tires are they're using. Let say that S class you posted was for sale with these $3000.00 wheels on it but it had cheap half worn mismatched chinese tires on it I would runaway as fast as I could.
If you can't afford quality tires then what other essential maintenance couldn't you afford?
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:32 |
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Eh, it depends what wheels. If it's a set of vossens (not the ugly ones above, though), HRE's, or other high end high quality $1.5k+ per wheel I'll consider. If it's just cheap cast replicas no shot. Forged wheels are good, and most of the time an owner willing to pay up to go forged is taking good care of the car.
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Afternaket is a really broad term. To be fair after market brakes tend to be better than OEM if you buy the good brands.
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I don't know, I trust or like aftermarket things.
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I know they are, but I prefer OEM. I think that if the car was projected that way and engineers but billions of dollars into development, it should stay that way.
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Not even OEM+ rims?
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Yeah, but I just think OEM looks better and therefore it trust it more.
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Thats fine.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:35 |
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spend loads of dollars in development yet still loads of OEM wheels buckle/crack fairly easily when compared to forged aftermarket wheels
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:35 |
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You don't trust the wheels quality or you don't trust a previous owner who would drive on aftermarket wheels?
Either one is sketchy reasoning.
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I would, depending on if I can sell the aftermarket wheels for more than the price of stock wheels.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:36 |
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There is such a thing as better than stock aftermarket. I haven't bought a car with aftermarket wheels yet, but I'm not saying I wouldn't. For example, I put aftermarket wheels on my MR2 because I couldn't get any good tires for the stock rim. I guess it depends on what kind of wheels it has. If they're good wheels and not flashy and hint at the PO caring for his car in some way and choosing wisely, I don't see a problem.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:38 |
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Both, I'm also afraid of balloons so there's that.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:39 |
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I'm the same way! If it's just wheels and they are nice I might make an exception, but I don't believe in "tastefully modified". Things like black badges/grilles, other "aero" parts send me running for the hills, especially if were talking about a German car. I have said this before on here and I know its probably not true but in my mind, I can't picture a person who likes that type of stuff taking proper care of a car.
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I'd still go with OEM.
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That is my reasoning!
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:42 |
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Think on this: Brian's Fiesta has stock wheels.
For rally cross.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:42 |
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Many OEMs have their wheels made in the same factory as aftermarket companies. In fact, they are sometimes made in the exact same equipment. With the exact same alloys.
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I don't see the connection haha
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Ok, brakes are fine, that makes sense.
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My father and I constantly send each other cars that are for sale. My response is often, "That car is super nice, but those "smoked out" tail lights say that the owner hasn't changed the oil...ever
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Looks can be deceiving my friend
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Plenty of OEM stuff is done to be as cheap as possible for the manufacturer. If you have to make 600,000 wheels, do you think you're going to do it for anything less than the cheapest possible way that is still up to snuff?
Some aftermarket stuff is total garbage, however there are plenty of high-quality aftermarket or OEM+ companies out there. They have the time and resources to put attentnion to detail into things when they aren't making millions of them. APR is an example that comes to mind. They can afford to pay extra attention to detail because they aren't producing huge volumes like major manufacturers are.
Saying you'll only ever use OEM only gaurantees that you'll pay too much for something that was produced the cheapest way they could figure.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:47 |
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I would only if the going rate for them was higher than some lightweight, tasteful wheels of my own choice.
When you get into classic cars though, you really don't have a choice. Try finding a first gen mustang that doesn't have a bunch of aftermarket parts that are keeping it running.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:48 |
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Are you afraid of balloons because they're mostly filled from the helium tank by clowns at parties? Would you be cool if the balloon was filled bill union workers at a factory?
![]() 03/06/2015 at 16:56 |
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me too! thus I bought my car as certified used Honda with one previous owner. stock stock stock!!! then... I totally changed everything :D
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But wheels are wheels. Take them off, sell them.
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The stock wheels on my car were 20.5lbs each.
My track wheels are 18.5lbs.
When cars start coming with decent wheels, I'll leave them alone.
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Have fun throwing money away.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 17:02 |
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Subaru STI OEM wheels = BBS
Mitsubishi EVO X OEM wheels = Enkei
Dodge Challenger SRT8 OEM Wheels = Alcoa
Mazda Miata OEM Wheels = Enkei
Starting to see a pattern here? Alot of car companies are using "aftermarket" wheels right from the factory. Therefor the quality of the wheel brand is more important than it being aftermarket or not.
![]() 03/06/2015 at 17:08 |
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Sure, car companies spend a lot of time and money designing their cars. But cars are engineered by their manufacturers to fulfill a set of compromises, and fit within a certain cost to manufacture. Aftermarket parts, which can be more expensive than OEM, are often upgrades over the OEM parts.
Similarly, OEM parts are designed to be inoffensive to the majority of drivers. But they can always be improved upon if someone is willing to make tradeoffs like a stiffer ride in exchange for more grip, or more noise in exchange for more power.
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I don't want to be that lady, but I'm going to be that lady and say that's a bullsh*t assumption.
I mean yeah, if it were the "grounded to the ground" stancemobile, FnF wannabe, or AutoZone part special, I'd totally agree.
But you're effectively saying "oh that person put some Plasti-Dip on their badges, therefore they don't take care of their car".
As someone who maintains and modifies their car (my TSW wheels are better than the soft factory crap), I'm not sure how you even came to that conclusion???
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But that is something the manufacturer installed, I trust Mitsubishi.
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They pop and make LOUD NOISES
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Yes but if The Enkei wheels is good enough for Mitsubishi would it matter if a car had an aftermarket Enkei wheel? or if the Mitsubishi in question had an aftermarket Enkei wheels. it is still the same brand as OEM just a different model.
I understand your reasoning and I agree if the car has some cheapo wheels I'd be hesitant, but if it has a quality aftermarket wheel I have no issues with it.
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whoa holy shit, mobile kinja autocorrect does not kick in on my iPhone.
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i'd never had alloys.
hopefully never will , i like steelies
![]() 03/06/2015 at 18:03 |
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I don't trust anything OEM when the Subaru Outback (LL Bean) happened. Original wheels never saw salt or water in a few days, and it began to deteriorate.
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BS or not, I won't even go look at a car with any visual mods. While I'm probably in the minority, I'm not alone. That said, it was not a conclusion, it's not the truth, and it probably means that I'm missing out on some good cars. I didn't say that people that modify don't take care of their cars. I said that's how I perceive them when I see their cars on autotrader etc...
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That makes more sense than the original statement! IMO, I'd stay away from second hand modified cars too. If you can't confirm the quality of the build, there's no way of knowing what you're getting into. :O
![]() 03/07/2015 at 00:35 |
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I have aftermarket wheels and I'm willing to bet I take better care of my car than you do. I've got smoked lights too, but I haven't installed them yet. Yep, bought another set of lights just so that I'll be able to sell my car to a guy like you some day. And I'll keep the wheels too if you don't want them because they're worth more than the stock wheels. You can also have the stock rear hatch handle that you can't get your hand in and the antenna that makes it look like a remote control car.
You are definitely missing out on a lot of good cars if "completely stock" is one of your requirements.
![]() 03/07/2015 at 09:41 |
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This. If the car has decent wheels, but it has four different tires and an obvious alignment issue, the person who owns it probably doesn't know shit.
That being said, suspension and engine modifications are a no-go for me. I don't care if you have $4000 suspension on your $10k car, I don't know who put it together. I'm pretty sure that if I showed up to someone's house with a torque wrench to check the torque on the mounting bolts, I'd be an asshole. Therefore, I don't deal with it.
![]() 03/07/2015 at 17:02 |
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I agree wholeheartedly - if they changed the wheels, what else did they change? Give me a stock car, and if I want to change things it's my bad.
![]() 03/07/2015 at 17:16 |
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Exactly, tinted lights are another no-no.
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My loss, enjoy your smoked tail lights.