What Car Do You Wish Was RWD?

"472CID" (472CID) 02/24/2015 at 11:32 • Filed to: None

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You know the feeling. Either searching used cars or walking down the street and you see a cheap practical sensible car, and think if only it was interesting. The most sure fire way to inject some cool factor into a dull car (besides a clutch pedal) is to loose the front half shafts and get a rear diff. What car could benefit from it the most?

How about Dodges Stratus, and it's predecessor the Avenger coupe. As is, they're dreadfully boring forgettable commuters, but with rwd they'd be baby Charger/Challengers.

Schaefft > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:34

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Any car that is fwd only?

Leon711 > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:34

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472CID > Schaefft 02/24/2015 at 11:35

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Well that goes without saying.

wunderwagen wants a longer roof > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:37

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USDM Honda Accord, or really most USDM fullsize sedans. Accord mainly because I quite like the it and am very comfortable in it.

crowmolly > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:37

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And NO, the SS is not a substitute.

Cherry_man1 > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:37

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Focus ST and Taurus SHO

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:38

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citizennick > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:38

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They might as well.

MonkeePuzzle > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:38

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there are certainly a grip of FWD cars taht have the long hooded coupe look that makes them seem well deserved of a RWD platform. I'd say the Prelude is one of the worst offenders

NevynPA > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:39

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I nominate my Saab 9-5. It'd be quite the bizarre beast in RWD; at the moment I'm pushing 285 hp and 305 ft-lb of torque from the 2.3L turbo 4.

505Turbeaux > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:39

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this, even though it would take away some of the Frenchiness of it

EL_ULY > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:39

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TODOS!

TheHondaBro > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:39

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Frosted > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:40

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This one. It would be hilarious fun.

KnowsAboutCars > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:40

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6th gen Monte Carlo SS. I also wish it came with V8 and possibly manual transmission.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:41

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I always wanted the Chrysler Lasers and Dodge Daytonas of the 80's to be RWD. They would be SO much cooler.

Bluecold > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:43

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Peugeot RCZ

It looks RWD so it should be.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > MonkeePuzzle 02/24/2015 at 11:43

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I thought those were RWD for the longest time.

BigBlock440 > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:43

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How about Dodges Stratus, and it's predecessor the Avenger coupe. As is, they're dreadfully boring forgettable commuters, but with rwd they'd be baby Charger/Challengers.

I had plans to do this one day, still would like to. Unfortunately, the lack of a garage is keeping me from it. By the time I get around to it, they'll all be crushed. I guess the 2nd-gen Avenger makes as good a candidate as any.

haier2 > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:43

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I might not want to sell it so bad if it were RWD.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:45

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The latest Taurus. It's big and muscled enough to look the part of a proper Aussie rear-driver. I have dreams of building one some day. With a Coyote and a six-speed.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:45

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Does wanting a 4wd first-gen GL/Leone coupe count? Yes, I know I could build my own from a FWD and a 4WD sedan. That's not the point. The point is japonés alternative to Lada Niva.

itschrome > KnowsAboutCars 02/24/2015 at 11:45

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the last one did come with that super amazingly reliable(kidding) 5.3 v8. But yeah if any car listed so far should have been RWD it should have been this!

and 100 more > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:46

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All recent iterations of the Chevy Malibu:

Why? I dunno, I just have a soft spot for these.

Moves-Like-Senna > Bluecold 02/24/2015 at 11:48

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Imagine if that was an RR configuration... #drool. It would be a sub-compact driver's car.

Moves-Like-Senna > TheHondaBro 02/24/2015 at 11:48

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Yes

472CID > haier2 02/24/2015 at 11:51

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Those and the 90s Seville/Eldorados, Cadillac would be a completely different (better) brand today.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:51

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A lot of Cadillacs. My grandpa's DTS springs immediately to mind.

472CID > Frosted 02/24/2015 at 11:52

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A couple of rear mounted Hayabusa engines would do the trick.

TheJWT > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:52

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472CID > Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage 02/24/2015 at 11:52

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There was the Chrysler Conquest which is pretty close to that.

472CID > citizennick 02/24/2015 at 11:54

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As much as I want a rwd Buick, I'm ok with them being awd to set them apart from Cadillac.

twochevrons > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:57

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I am definitely not an "RWD ALL THE THINGS" type of person, and in my eyes, there are plenty of FWD cars that are just fine as they are. However, I can't help but think that if Volvo had stuck with RWD for the 850, then the 850R would have been a true performance car and BMW-beater, rather than just a fast variant of a competent but ultimately rather dull family car. I own one, and it's still a great car and remarkably fun to drive given its roots, but if it were powering the other wheels (preferably through a manual transmission, another thing that it lacks), I think that it would be much more exciting car.

As it is, it's quick in a straight line (if you can keep the torque steer under control), but in the twisty bits, its big-FWD-car roots show, and the brutish acceleration turns into piles of understeer and a tendency to spin the inside wheel at the slightest touch of the throttle. Combined with the inevitable weight-transfer issues in getting power to the ground in the first place, I think that RWD would have definitely improved it. There's a degree of raw hooliganism in the 850R's character that seems somewhat lacking in the AWD models that replaced it, and it just feels like the kind of car that should be able to light up the rear tires and go fishtailing off in a cloud of smoke.

dogisbadob > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:57

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One of the entry level small cars.

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > KnowsAboutCars 02/24/2015 at 11:58

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Those are FWD?! After this and the Prelude I don't know what to think anymore

citizennick > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 11:59

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the AWD only comes in auto though ):

Bluecold > Moves-Like-Senna 02/24/2015 at 12:00

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I know right? They should go all patrick star on the entire drivetrain.

Meatcoma > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 12:02

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Ford Probe.

Moves-Like-Senna > Bluecold 02/24/2015 at 12:04

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Yes! It would be the Audi TT/Mini R8 Audi never made

sellphones2493 > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 12:06

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Maybe it'd be as fun as it looks!

KnowsAboutCars > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 02/24/2015 at 12:07

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Unfortunately, yes.

El Rivinado > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 12:08

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Honestly, the Ford Probe

Not that the original was bad, but if Ford really did want this to replace the Mustang. They should've really made it RWD.

Jayhawk Jake > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 12:10

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I'm not anti FWD, but if my CRX was rear wheel drive I would make it an Autocross monster instead of selling it

Hiroku > twochevrons 02/24/2015 at 12:10

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They should have made an AWD R with a manual and the B5234FT for the 850. With some proper diffs and/or clever torque vectoring that could be an absolute hoot and probably a closer to match to contemporary German offerings without sacrificing safety. Granted you have the earlier V70R AWDs for some of that but not quite the same thing. The 850 is where it's at.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 12:14

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HMushman > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 12:23

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I bought a new Avenger in '96 and always said it would be so much better with RWD. Also had an '06 Malibu SS which would have been incredible with RWD.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > and 100 more 02/24/2015 at 12:28

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New one? Sure. 2006? Absolutly, especially the SS. '99? That thing can burn regardless of what wheels are driven.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > haier2 02/24/2015 at 12:31

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Wait, the DTS was FWD?

Learned something today. And found another reason not to like the DTS.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > sellphones2493 02/24/2015 at 12:31

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This one more screams "AWD" to me.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > HMushman 02/24/2015 at 12:33

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The Avenger actually has the lines of a RWD car, at least to my eyes. Second the SS. Epecially the Maxx.

and 100 more > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 02/24/2015 at 12:38

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I had an '04 Classic... the Classic was the '99-'03 Malibu body with the Ecotec 2.2 from the base '04 Malibu and the Cavalier. It was a good, solid engine. The rest of the car was shit for quality, but I have always liked the exterior proportions of it. I don't know why, but I just love the look of that generation.

RallyWrench > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 12:42

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Hyundai Tiburon GT V6. A pretty neat little car as is, with a nice engine. Just too bad about the driven wheels.

Nobi > KnowsAboutCars 02/24/2015 at 12:43

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The first car I ever bought myself was a 5th gen '95 Z34. If I could figure out how to make one cheaply RWD (they're the same wheelbase as a new age GTO, but I'm NOT cutting up my GTO) I'd love to go get another and make it happen.

ReallyColorful > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 12:45

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Mk1 Acura/Honda Legend. The coupe's ass screams RWD burnouts.

Schaefft > 505Turbeaux 02/24/2015 at 12:46

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I didn't know these were fwd, Rockstar lied to me!

haier2 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 02/24/2015 at 13:07

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That was my exact reaction when I learned that while underneath the car about two years into my dad's ownership.

I knew it felt funny to drive but just blamed it on the floaty suspension and the fact that its longer than an Escalade.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 13:10

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All the cars. Except the good AWD ones

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 13:13

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Yeah, quite honestly I like the Conquest/Starion more anyways. I just think it would be cool to see a RWD Laser or Daytona. I seem to find a lot more Daytonas and Lasers than Conquests, so that could make them more accessible.

505Turbeaux > Schaefft 02/24/2015 at 13:15

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haha yeah totally. Would be so much better as a RWD!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 13:25

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Lincoln MKT with Ecoboost 3.5 TT

472CID > crowmolly 02/24/2015 at 13:49

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Just apply the Impala's styling to the SS, use a V6 if you insist.

472CID > TheJWT 02/24/2015 at 13:52

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A long long time ago, I originally though those were rwd.

472CID > ReallyColorful 02/24/2015 at 13:53

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Why do have pictures of Acura butts??

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 13:54

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I think Buick really missed a chance to to fight back at some of the sports imports of the time by making the Reatta FWD and limiting its appeal.

The last gen Riviera would have been better too, a proper grand tourer should be RWD. Aside from the Eldorado, its only main competition was the Lincoln MK8 and perhaps the Lexus SC, both of which were RWD.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 13:56

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Def agree with you. When I was younger I always wanted an Avenger, but would have loved to have done a RWD swap to it. They just looked so good that to be FWD was terrible.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > crowmolly 02/24/2015 at 14:16

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THIS.

TotallyThatStupid > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 14:31

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Easiest. Question. Ever.

Bluecold > TotallyThatStupid 02/24/2015 at 14:44

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Holy shit yes you nailed it. All FWD Alfa's. The 164 had highly-advanced-for-the-time AWD in Q4 guise.

I could care less about the Peugeot RCZ I suggested. FWD Alfa's with big V6's are a crying shame.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Schaefft 02/24/2015 at 14:59

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It's FWD in the game though... Do a burnout with it.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 02/24/2015 at 15:01

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I had a '78 BRAT, that little thing would definitely get sideways without much effort.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Jayhawk Jake 02/24/2015 at 15:02

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It can be done. http://jalopnik.com/this-1990-hond…

Autofixation > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 15:35

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I did too! The dimensions look very close to an MR2! But then I educated myself and was disappointed….

Autofixation > El Rivinado 02/24/2015 at 15:40

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Yes! I was scrolling through to see if anyone had posted it yet. These are very underrated cars. This could have been the American 240SX (yes, I know it's really a Mazda) only better.

Autofixation > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 15:46

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Would hoon the hell out of this if it RWD!

twochevrons > Hiroku 02/24/2015 at 15:50

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I agree! I would be very interested to drive a European-spec manual 850R, with the 250hp engine and an LSD. I suspect that might help with the worst of the FWD vices. Shame we didn't get the manual ones in the States.

The 850R might not be all that quick in real terms (my wife's 2011 Golf 2.5 feels faster off the line, and isn't all that much slower 0-60!), but it has a wonderful level of rough-around-the-edges silliness for such a conservative-looking car. I'm still tempted by the P2 Rs (especially the combination of a manual transmission and Haldex AWD), but I can't help but think that although they're faster and more civilised, they wouldn't quite have the same fun-factor as the 850R.

SlickMcRick > TheHondaBro 02/24/2015 at 15:51

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I'm glad that I kept scrolling. This was exactly what I was going to suggest. If this was RWD I'd be all over it in a heartbeat.

TheHondaBro > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 15:56

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Because dat Acur-ass.

TheJWT > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 16:14

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As did I, and I also thought they were mid engined for quite a while.

Hiroku > twochevrons 02/24/2015 at 18:30

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Totally agree!

Although in my country it is widely regarded as a pretty quick car (as is to be expected when 95% of the population drives sub-100hp diesel hatchbacks), it's the crazy way with which it delivers that performance that has me grinning from ear to ear whenever I plant my foot down.

I'm not sure if they are supposed to be like that or if my turbo is getting a bit tired, but it's the typical old-school turbo car: put your foot down at like 1500-2000rpm and there's absolutely nothing at all, then as the stock boost gauge' needle rises well into the white area in the dash , the revs rise to 2500-3000ish and suddenly you are pushed into the seat like someone kicked you in the chest and that mesmerizing 5-cylinder orchestra starts playing at full blast. It's pure drama! I love it!

Flavien Vidal > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 18:59

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Peugeot 205 GTI... Someone needs to transform it into a RWD...

NJAnon > 472CID 02/24/2015 at 21:50

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The Dodge Stratus and Dodge Avengers wouldn't be Chargers or Challengers if they had gotten RWD. But they would at least be better than what we ended up getting.

twochevrons > Hiroku 02/24/2015 at 23:04

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Mine feels exactly as you describe (although at 214,000 miles, it's almost certainly probably past its best). Nothing, nothing, nothing, then OHMYGODBOOOOOOOST. Never gets old, especially when you can surprise people at the lights. Mine's currently on 15" steel wheels and winter tires, so aside from the spoiler and bright red paint, it looks just like a regular 850.

I'm originally from New Zealand, where tiny-engined cars are also the norm, so by my standards, it's ridiculously fast. I just threw in the "not all that quick" because surely there'd be somebody coming in to tell me (not incorrectly) that 0-60 in 7 or so seconds is the same as a V6 Camry or whatever. The expectations of the US market are completely different, and, in my eyes, somewhat bizarre. Here, the base-model VW Golf comes with a 170hp engine (formerly a 2.5 litre 5 pot, now a 2.0 turbo four), and anything that's much slower than 8-9 seconds 0-60 is considered "dangerously slow". No, I don't understand it either. I think that part of it goes back to the era of effortless V8s – while those of us with small-engined cars are used to driving them at their full potential, US car buyers don't seem to like wringing every last ounce of performance out of their cars, and would rather get decently-brisk acceleration at half throttle rather than get the same acceleration by working a smaller engine harder. Sure, more power is never a bad thing, but I think that the average buyer here tends to overestimate their need for a powerful car because they're not so willing to make the most of what the engine can offer.

I think that the 850R's acceleration figures are somewhat deceptive, too. from a standstill, mine is pretty lethargic (the automatic transmission ECU severely limits boost in first gear), but once it reaches around 30mph, it takes off like a rocket. It's that kind of acceleration that's useful in the real world, and I really can't fault it at all in that department.

Hiroku > twochevrons 02/25/2015 at 03:35

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Everything you said is 1000% true, I wish I could give you more stars!

People look at 0-60 times and think "fuck, that's slow" but they forget that off the line it has no traction whatsoever, so will likely stay stationary spinning the front wheels for a second until it hooks up. The shift from 1st-2nd robs a bit of time too (I guess the manual shifts are very slow too because it's a very long throw!) and likely throws it off boost, so there's even more time lost. In-gear, on-boost however it feels like a much quicker car. 2nd gear is a complete beast and it continues to pull like a fright train all the way through 3rd. I remember thinking that 3rd gear in this car feels as quick as 2nd gear in a new 3-series or C-class diesel.

Very true on the whole american car buyers' mindset, too. I grew up and live in a rather poor European country (not Greece :p) where petrol-engined cars over 1.6L displacement simply do not exist and everyone drives diesel Polos and Clios. Heck, I look out the window of my company's parking lot and out of the 50 or so cars outside my 850 is easily the fastest, and by a margin. Even the company's super rich directors drive new 520ds which have like 180hp and do 0-60 in 8 seconds.

In that light America sounds like a dream land where every 16yo teenager drives a 200hp car and if you do moderately well in life you drive a 400hp V8! It's batshit!

Hiroku > twochevrons 02/25/2015 at 03:41

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Also note that I don't even have an R, just a run-of-the-mill T5. A T-5R or 850R here would be a collector's item and actually worth something, whereas mine can be had for scrap money because nobody outside a very select circle of enthusiasts wants a 20-year-old luxury car which does 15L/100km on the highway.

twochevrons > Hiroku 02/25/2015 at 10:02

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It's great to come across somebody like-minded on the internet, especially with the same taste in cars!

I wish that mine had a manual transmission, but in the US market, only the base-model 850 was available with a manual – all turbocharged 850s came with the four-speed automatic. It isn't bad as '90s automatics go – it has a pretty effective sport mode, and is set up to make the most of the turbo by unlocking the torque converter early to let the engine build boost faster – but it definitely blunts the performance a bit and isn't quite as much fun. Still, I think that my 850R is the fastest 'stock' car that I've ever driven. I once drove a friend's rally-prepped Peugeot 205GTI that was absolutely mental, but apart from that, I don't think I've been behind the wheel of anything quicker.

In the US, the following of the 850R (and R Volvos in general) is small, but intense. Not all that many people know about them, but those that do, absolutely love them. The problem is, there are enough 850Rs in good condition to satisfy the enthusiast community, so anything with a few problems gets forgotten. I actually didn't know anything about 850R when I bought mine – I was just looking for a cheap station wagon – and because it had electrical issues and looked pretty rough, I only paid a few hundred more than scrap value for it.

There's so little difference between the T5 and R 850s that I think it's a bit silly that one gets obsessed over and the other gets forgotten. By the numbers, the R is only barely faster, and because the R's ECU mapping only kicks in at full throttle, there's no difference at all in performance unless you floor it. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure if I've ever done that in mine, because it starts getting a bit scary well before full throttle! Sure, the R has fancy alcantara seats (which look awful when they start to wear out, as they have done on mine), and sportier suspension (that makes the ride almost unbearably harsh), but there's really not much difference between them.

The USA is definitely a good place to be a car enthusiast. Fuel is ridiculously cheap, and you can get some very interesting cars (both new and old) very cheaply. Still, it's not all perfect. The selection that we get from European manufactures is fairly limited, and it's really hard to find anything with a manual transmission. When I was in New Zealand, I was a Citroën guy (I had a Xantia, and my father still owns an awesome BX 16v), and I'm a bit sad that you can't get them here. Once I'm a bit more financially established, though, I plan on importing an old Citroën DS or CX, though.

The prevalence of overpowered cars bugs me a little bit, too. I can't entirely explain why, but it all just seems a bit unnecessary. I don't mind powerful cars, but to think that a base-model VW Golf needs at least 170hp to be competitive here is just a bit excessive. On the other hand, I never cease to be amazed at how much power the European manufacturers can wring out of a small engine. 180hp from a 2 litre diesel is quite impressive when you think of it! They're beginning to catch on here – VW's 1.4TSI is showing up in their hybrid models, and Ford's 1.0 EcoBoost is now available – but I think that it will be a long time before they displace the big, under-stressed engines that are popular now.

Hiroku > twochevrons 02/25/2015 at 11:18

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The lack of manual cars is my only big gripe with US-spec cars. I work the gears a lot, rev-match in every gearchange and am learning to heel & toe as well. It's such a huge factor in the driving involvement for me that I could not possibly imagine enjoying an automatic car, ever. Not to mention the nearly bulletproof reliability of a manual gearbox gives me something less to worry about when buying an old car, other than clutch wear.

The only time I'll concede an automatic is superior is in stop & go traffic. The 850's clutch in particular is painfully heavy compared with previous cars I've driven. I was once stuck in a major traffic jam for nearly an hour and by golly, did I give my left leg a workout. Fortunately I live just outside the major city center so that's hardly ever an issue for me.

Honestly, everything else being equal, I probably prefer my T-5 to an R. Very little performance difference as you said, and I actually love the boaty, cushy ride of my car (it's not like it's ever going to be a canyon-carving beast like a Miata anyway, so why bother). Not to mention I'm much less worried about a crash since it's not exactly a treasured collector's item or anything.

I'm also scared of WOT in mine, not because the performance is too much, but rather because I fear the engine might disintegrate instantly under very high stress! :) I liked when I bought the car and the tyres were completely shot, though. Anything above half-throttle, as much as a single drop of water in the road and it would instantly light up the front tyres in THIRD GEAR as soon as it went on boost! Made it feel like a REALLY powerful car :)

Xantias and BXs are dead cheap here, as they were sold by the bucketloads and the hydropneumatic suspension has a bad reputation for unreliability and difficult maintenance. Rode in a Xantia once, insanely comfortable car. I have a lot of respect for Citröen (as with Saab) because I'm sucker for geeky innovative ideas, so I would love to own one of those some day.

GK27V6 > RallyWrench 02/26/2015 at 13:49

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I own one, and still love it despite being FWD. I will admit, I wouldn't mind the rear wheels to do some of the work as well, but I have modified mine now to the point where a lot of the FWD limitations have been mitigated. Thick rear sway bar, poly bushings for both sway bars, coilovers, strut bars and weight reduction go a long way. Of course as does sticky Michelin Pilot Super Sports :)

There honestly could have been at least a AWD version, easily.

Toyotathong! > 472CID 02/26/2015 at 13:52

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Man, I'm sorry I had to include a minivan but this one is available with a stick and RWD would make it......almost hoonable.

Kyle Geddes > 472CID 02/26/2015 at 13:52

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I might, maybe.. ok there's a very small chance that I would consider a Cruze if it came in manual RWD. Basically, an econo SS.

TheInfamousMisterLicious > 472CID 02/26/2015 at 14:00

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I know this is a weird one, but I always wanted the last generation Rivieras to be RWD. In my personal experience, the build quality was as good as the Acura Legend Coupes and Lexus SC300/SC400 of the day and the styling was actually better. The only thing they lacked was the right wheels motivating it. An LS1 wouldn't have hurt either, but I suppose I'm asking a lot.

Chemist > 472CID 02/26/2015 at 14:01

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Ford Focus.

Scootin159 > 472CID 02/26/2015 at 14:16

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DAMG0014 > Schaefft 02/26/2015 at 14:23

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What game has this car in it?

VWDashboardLight > TheJWT 02/26/2015 at 14:25

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With that roof mechanism, RWD would make that car so much more desirable.

K.D.R > TotallyThatStupid 02/26/2015 at 14:29

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YES YES YES YES YES.

I love this car, and one day I want to have one of those in red/black and convert to RWD.

MrStiggy > twochevrons 02/26/2015 at 14:29

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I had a '93! Non turbo, but a fun first car none the less. All my fellow car-people friends were surprised to learn it was FWD. The proportions were that of a RWD with the front wheels so far from the door sill. Ironic that it was Volvo's first large volume FWD car. If they kept with RWD this would have, like you said, been a viable BMW competitor and Volvo could have been at a much different place in the luxury market than it is today.

thebigbossyboss > 472CID 02/26/2015 at 14:34

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go4broke360 > 472CID 02/26/2015 at 14:37

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My vote would be 97-03 Grand Prix and Bonnevilles. Throw a manual in the mix and I am in heaven.

472CID > Scootin159 02/26/2015 at 14:39

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That's a Fiat 500 it's on the list

foxbody > 472CID 02/26/2015 at 14:48

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Holy shit. I've had that exact thought about the old Avenger. It has a great shape.