Fourza Trans-Am Race In 30 Minutes

"SVTyler" (svtyler)
02/28/2015 at 15:40 • Filed to: Fourza

Well, race will start no later than 4:30pm EST. Anyone wants to join a really quick practice session I'll be on in a few minutes.

DISCUSSION (74)

Cherry_man1 > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:05

Maybe I'll make it! I dunno.......>_> fucikgn Uverse....

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:06

No post race for this weekend? I was hoping to see some epic flips.

SVTyler > ly2v8-Brian
02/23/2015 at 18:09

My phone ran out of battery before the race ended so I'm waiting on someone who saved the replay to send me the results since I couldn't get a picture. Desu mocked my tragic mistake if you're looking for failure.

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:10

Very unlikely I'll be able to make it, as we're moving into our new home this weekend.

SVTyler > Cherry_man1
02/23/2015 at 18:10

Dude, the British guy made it in fine, no clue what's going on with your shit. We can get on again on Thursday or whenever and try and see who can host.

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:16

That was beautifully written. That sucks about the phone, all I know about the final order for sure was that we all had fast laps just under 1:40 (so that was close) and that I got...

SWEET VICTORY

gloating done. back to work.

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/23/2015 at 18:20

But bro I need revenge vengeance payback redemption for my failures last week, and how am I going to get that without you in the lobby? Next next week then...

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:22

Nope. Next next week I'm going to be at the Sandblast Rally.

So sad...

Cherry_man1 > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:26

Eh blame Uverse.

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/23/2015 at 18:30

Fine, go watch actual racing and stuff while us plebs slum it up in the virtual world. Next next next week, though... vengeance shall be mine.

SVTyler > Cherry_man1
02/23/2015 at 18:31

At this point I'm beginning to wonder what you did to piss of the universe.

Cherry_man1 > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:32

Move....that's what I did.

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:39

I won't be watching. I'll be working as a marshall, lol.

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/23/2015 at 18:52

It won't let me watch the replay all the way to till the end. As soon as my car crosses the line, it cuts off, even if I'm watching the last car.

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/23/2015 at 18:59

That's bizarre, I've watched races til the end regardless of when my car finished. I don't think anyone gained position on the final lap so could you just get the results from right before you finished? Figure I'll throw them up there and correct if need be.

TopSirloin > SVTyler
02/24/2015 at 02:11

I'm hoping things are a bit more competitive in the 550's this week, if I can make it. I learned that hard way that cornering ability means next to nothing when you get your doors blown off on the straight-away by some high PI car.

SVTyler > TopSirloin
02/24/2015 at 02:40

It hasn't been that bad, has it? Unfortunately having dudes with high-PI cars is kind of the only way we can get them up to speed and be competitive (unless you feel like completely neutering your own car instead). It sucks for the faster people and I don't like it any more than you do (especially since I'm dialing my car back so far) but that's just how these series will work.

Desu-San-Desu > TopSirloin
02/24/2015 at 04:33

Ahem.

I was getting my doors blown off on every straight and managed to come in 2nd. Cornering ability and consistently can work well if you race smart and wait for the guys ahead to screw up.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler
02/24/2015 at 16:09

Guaranteed i wont make it again unfortunately. Have thing as an apology.

Kinja'd!!!

SVTyler > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts
02/24/2015 at 18:25

I have no idea what's going on but that's awesome anyways.

TopSirloin > Desu-San-Desu
02/24/2015 at 18:30

I had a few key misshaps. I avoided that cluster going in to turn 1 on the first or second lap, and ended up in 3rd, only to up in the sticky grass trying to avoid an un-instigated spin out in front of me. I just couldn't claw my way back. It didn't help that I went 2 wheeling around the turn before the straight far too many times. I did feel like I was driving a car in a different league though. Many kudos to you for hangin' in there.

TopSirloin > SVTyler
02/24/2015 at 18:35

No no not at all. I've only been in 3 races so far and other than this last one, they all felt pretty evenly matched and competitve. I think something about the nature of Road Atlanta and the B450's wasn't an environment that was conducive to making up ground. I have no idea how you stay in the game with such a low PI car. I've been trying to build the cars so that a perfect lap results in the desired time, and maybe I should just back off that a little and make that target time easier to attain.

NonDriftingS13 > SVTyler
02/24/2015 at 18:38

Are the two series separate? Not sure if I'll be able to make the race but if I do hopefully I can make my internet a bit smoother...

SVTyler > NonDriftingS13
02/24/2015 at 19:05

Points standings are separate for each series:

Kinja'd!!!

And yeah, if you could try and do something about your Internet that'd be awesome. If not you're still fine to race with us obviously, only thing is we're having two new people this week so the field will be even more crowded if you can make it.

SVTyler > TopSirloin
02/24/2015 at 19:26

Yeah, problem with long tracks like Road Atlanta is that the PI difference is exaggerated by the straights. Theoretically if everyone laps the same times then it should be a pretty close race regardless, but I do know it's frustrating at times (especially for people like me and RoboRed who are on non-race compound so we're getting killed on the straights and the corners).

Like Desu said these races favor the consistency more than anything (A550 especially since they're so long), which is how dudes like me and RoboRed and camaroboy68ss invariably end up in the top 5 every week. If you race smart and clean there's no reason you shouldn't be competing for a spot on the podium every week, which is why I emphasize the practice aspect so much; besides making your lap times faster overall you become more used to the track and thus more consistent.

Desu-San-Desu > TopSirloin
02/24/2015 at 19:30

I LOVED watching the replay and seeing your car bicycle around that corner. There were so many times I couldn't believe how high of a tip angle you achieved without flipping. It was hilarious.

Anyways, my strategy is generally to hang back and race super conservative for the first couple of laps, as tires will be cold and there will be accidents and wrecks. Use those first two laps to position yourself in such a way to take advantage of the chaos in front of you. If you watch the replay from my car's point of view, you can see me consciously doing exactly that.

As for the car itself, I could lend a hand with tuning it for you, if you'd like. Be aware, though, I always favor handling over power, so it might not totally alleviate the straight line speed issue.

TopSirloin > SVTyler
02/24/2015 at 19:50

I definitely haven't logged the massive amount of hours in the game that some in the club have, but I've put up pretty decent showings in the races I've been a part of. Consistency is definitely the way to end up in the top 5, but even my cleanest lines were perilous considering the damg rumble strips at Road Atlanta, and small short wheel-base TwoFive cars meant doing the two wheel dance far too often, and even if you didn't roll, it' probably cost a whole second to recover from.

We did have pretty similar lap times, but there must have been 25 seconds between the first place finisher and the last. I definitely agree that Road Atlanta can highlight certain strengths and weaknesses. It's hard to find areas at Road Atlanta to shave seconds off the lap. There's a right way, and wrong way at this track it seems, not much to do differently that's going to actually save time other than perfecting your lines.

TopSirloin > Desu-San-Desu
02/24/2015 at 20:01

I cannot believe I didn't roll. I'd like to watch that replay, I had probably 5 or 6 times I was damn close. Those really killed my times.

I think that conservative approach is definitely a good one to take if you can stay clean and not make mistakes. I was able to put down a top-5 lap time but was still 15 or 20 seconds off the leader it felt like.

As far as tuning goes, I'm experimenting and feeling my way through what's what. With the Nova, I was able to take something that was fast enough, and make it something that seemed to out-handle much of what was infront of me. I tried the same approach with the Cortina.. Light, good standard handling that could be polished up a lot, and good balance.. it just wan't in the same league as far as power is concerned as some other examples were. I really need to get to one of the Friday night practices to get an idea of the approach everyone is taking. I've got the 70' Boss Mustang feeling pretty dialed in. I don't like the way it handles stock, but tweaking the camber a few degrees and some adjustments with spring rate have made a noticeable difference for once.

When it comes down to it at Road Atlanta, I think I'd rather be fast in the straights and sloppy in the corners than vice versa.

SVTyler > TopSirloin
02/24/2015 at 20:32

Imo the Two-Five cars take more skill to drive quickly than the A550 cars, like you mentioned any screwup is magnified because of how damn slow those things are, especially at Road Atlanta with all the straights.

Irrespective of the multiple Orloves some people had last race I'm happy with the overall finishing times; as far as I'm concerned everyone has an equal chance to win the race, it's entirely up to the drivers to capitalize on the advantages they've been given. If you're racing in a car with 50+ more PI points than another guy and you still finish behind him it's not on him to slow down.

TopSirloin > SVTyler
02/24/2015 at 20:52

I totally agree. It's impressive that you're able to continue to be competitive with the handicaps you've given yourself. I really didn't feel like skill could do that much for you. I thought I was about average, I can hit the target times pretty consistently, and therefor wanted to keep myself right at the PI cap, but if guys like you and Robo are finishing ahead of me maybe I should give myself a little more room, I'd be worried about going too far past the max lap time.. Eh, it'll figure itself out. I'm still the newbie in the group.

SVTyler > TopSirloin
02/24/2015 at 21:31

Thanks, that's what happens when you put 400+ hours of driving into Fourza, eventually you find found the quickest way around every track in the game. Skill matters to an extent but again consistency remains king: last week notwithstanding, you'll notice the top guys never crash or go off-course in addition to being the fastest dudes on the track anyways. Combine that with a bit of an aggressive driving style (I know I'm guilty) and that's how those races shake out with people far out in front.

Not sure what everyone else does but every weekend my car is built to within .1 or 2 seconds of the target time (as evidenced by the pics I post when I remember to take them) and I lap at least 15 times before deciding on the final PI to make sure I don't have a Senna at Monaco lap and have to rebuild the car. Still finish a second or two fast per lap, but in theory if everyone sets their lap times similarly everyone should be a second or two fast, not two or three like some people (not going to name names but I'm vaguely annoyed by a few racers in the lobby who seem to always be lapping faster than everyone else every week).

Keep doing what you're doing and don't try to compensate, just practice. It'd be a terrible combo of a slippery slope and arms race; you set your car slightly faster, someone else sets their car slightly faster to combat you, ad infinitum until we're all at 600PI and the racing isn't any closer. The hands-off way I run this series leaves the onus of responsibility on the participants to build fair cars and if they don't, not much we can do about it besides take a few points off (which I've had to do a few times).

TheHondaBro > SVTyler
02/24/2015 at 21:36

I won't be able to race this Saturday. There's a lot of shit going on in my life right now.

TopSirloin > SVTyler
02/24/2015 at 21:43

Good points. Knowing you are docking those that go over the top gives me confidence to be honest with my build. Skill is such a hard intangible to account for, which makes honesty a big piece of the PI system in place.

SVTyler > TheHondaBro
02/24/2015 at 21:50

No worries man, we'll get you in another week.

SVTyler > TopSirloin
02/24/2015 at 22:55

Yeah it's really up to you guys to make the racing even, which in turns makes it actually enjoyable. It's nice to win, sure, but it's way more fun to actually race someone for 40+ minutes instead of just hot-lapping, which is what happened last series. If everyone shares that same idea we shouldn't have any problems.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 01:42

Kinja'd!!!

Caterham-esque Tank?

Kinja'd!!!

How about a train doing a powerslide?

All three done by the artist Stan Mott. Who is also behind the nutty Cyclops.

They even built a real one.

Kinja'd!!!

SVTyler > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts
02/25/2015 at 01:53

Kinja'd!!!

I'ma need so many more drugs...

Tareim - V8 powered > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 03:11

Kampf... Was 1st and I was 4th, think desu was 2nd

Tareim - V8 powered > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 05:43

well I do have 36mbps Fibre optic, and didn't see any lag which was good

Tareim - V8 powered > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 05:58

I'm not too far off the target time already, on monday I put a couple mods on and tuning got approx 1:34.4 so slightly more tweaking and I'm there

SVTyler > Tareim - V8 powered
02/25/2015 at 10:55

Yeah just trying to fill in the blanks. Parlock was 3rd, I was 6th, still leaves out about half the field though unless someone sends me full results.

SVTyler > Tareim - V8 powered
02/25/2015 at 10:56

Yeah the race overall was fine (save for that one guy in the blue 510), we were just worried about being able to connect in the first place since we've had so many problems with it in the past. That's why we were freaking out for that one guy to ready up.

garagemonkee > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 18:55

Managed a 1:34.000

I think I'm good. (I had to go down to sport tires, which means I'm gonna be tail happy for the race, I'm sure.)

Are there any practice races leading up to the race? I think I recall some posts about practices.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 19:06

Hahaha. Yeah. The power sliding train is my computer desktop and the CaterTank is on my phone.

SVTyler > garagemonkee
02/25/2015 at 19:09

I'm on sport tires as well and it's manageable; you just slide around a bit more than normal but since you're probably a bunch faster than everyone else in the corners it's not really detrimental to overall competitiveness, if anything you're still a bit faster than everyone else in the corners.

Normally I host a practice on Friday nights but I have exams next week so I might miss it this time around. Could make a post anyways and just have you guys organize yourselves, with the club screen it's pretty easy to do.

garagemonkee > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 19:12

Sure, if you make the post on Friday I'm sure we can manage the rest.

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 19:13

Any luck getting a copy of the replay?

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/25/2015 at 19:24

Not yet. Be my hero, Desu. Get me those results.

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 19:27

I told you man- my replay cuts off as soon as my car crosses the finish line.

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/25/2015 at 19:30

I know, but can't you pause like right before and see what position everyone's in? I'm trying to find anyone else with a replay and so far you're the only dude I know for sure has one.

SVTyler > garagemonkee
02/25/2015 at 19:30

Sounds like a plan.

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 19:32

Ok. I'll try that, but it's over a lap's difference, to I can't promise to the accuracy of those results.

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/25/2015 at 19:34

I was just going to throw the results up in the post-race and change them if someone sees they were scored incorrectly. Thanks, promise this won't happen again.

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 20:10

Would you rather I just send you the replay?

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/25/2015 at 20:17

My Xbox is an arcade so I can't view or save replays since I don't have an HDD :|

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/25/2015 at 20:17

Okay.

Desu-San-Desu > Desu-San-Desu
02/25/2015 at 20:55

Ok, for some reason my replay cuts off nearly a lap before the end of the race, but as of lap 21, here's the standings:

1) Kampfmesser (questionable conduct though- he spun Tareim coming out of the chicane in a way that could have been easily avoided.)
2) Desu-San-Desu
3) Corey CC97
4) Tareim
5) DERP Airgunner
6) mackleroy45
7) onepoint8turbos
8) Parlock3
9) CMD Woods
10) InfernoVivo
11) EricIsDaywalker

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/25/2015 at 23:25

Thank you so much dude. I'll ask Tareim what his opinion is and go from there, he didn't seem too bothered by it but I'll warn Kampf anyways.

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/26/2015 at 07:52

Ok. I don't know what their reactions were at the time, but looking at the replay, Tareim was in the lead going into the final chicane at the end of the long straight. He botched the right-hand exit a little and was slower exiting it, but hung to the right. Kampf came through with a good line and good speed, but despite having plenty of room to the left, ran into Tareim's rear bump, on the left corner. It was a hard hit and Tareim spun out immediately. If Tareim's cool with it, then whatever, but I feel it at least merits a review.

SVTyler > Desu-San-Desu
02/26/2015 at 12:29

Thanks, Tareim said he was letting Kampf pass since he bumped him for position in a previous corner and Kampf just ran into him. Sure it wasn't intentional so I'll just give Kampf a warning I guess.

SVTyler > ly2v8-Brian
02/26/2015 at 21:05

Yo... Tareim kinda complained that you spun him last race. Just a warning to not like do it again or anything.

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler
02/26/2015 at 22:23

I remember that, and I apologized. I did not contact him on purpose. It looked like he was exiting wide, I had a run towards where I thought his inside would have been (he had moved from the outside on the exit towards the center). I hit my apexes perfectly and had a lot of speed built up but, I could not stop in time and I ended up into him.

SVTyler > ly2v8-Brian
02/26/2015 at 22:35

Right on, know it was accidental but figured I should mention it anyways. He's not pissed off but still.

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler
02/26/2015 at 22:40

Hey, as I said I apologized (profusely in fact), I felt bad about it. I was too fast to say I was taking the inside.

SVTyler > ly2v8-Brian
02/26/2015 at 22:43

No yeah you're fine, he says he said he was sticking to the right (read: inside) to let you by but with everyone talking he probably got lost in the chatter. Shit happens.

SVTyler > ly2v8-Brian
02/26/2015 at 22:57

Also on a completely unrelated note, I still have that goddamn Spongebob song you posted a few days ago stuck in my head.

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler
02/26/2015 at 23:06

that's because it's amazing

SVTyler > ly2v8-Brian
02/26/2015 at 23:13

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE VICTORRRRYYYYYYYYAH

Desu-San-Desu > SVTyler
02/28/2015 at 16:34

WAIT FOR ME!

WE JUST GOT THE U-HAUL PARKED!

Rainbow > SVTyler
02/28/2015 at 16:48

How long do these normally run? I broke down and bought 13 months of Live today, (Target had 12+1 cards for $39.99 today only) and I would have been able to race up until 5:30 before I'd have to leave for work, if I had a car ready. Maybe next week, but I probably won't be home until too late. I hate my schedule now.

SVTyler > Rainbow
02/28/2015 at 17:32

We'd be done by then, our races normally last less than 45 minutes and we start no later than about 4:30.

SVTyler > Rainbow
03/02/2015 at 22:37

Are you in our car club? I was going to get on Fourza later tonight, figured I'd get you in if you weren't already.

Rainbow > SVTyler
03/02/2015 at 22:44

I think so, but you can add Goatbird if I'm not.

Also, is this series over yet? I'm home all day tomorrow, so I might put together a car if I'll have a chance to join in one of the later races.

SVTyler > Rainbow
03/02/2015 at 22:54

Think you might be too but I'll check anyways. We're actually less than halfway through both series (links here and here ) so you've got a bunch of races left (14 spread amongst among the two going all the way into June). I know you said you might miss this week's B450 race at Mugello but if you want to build a car for the A550 race next week target lap time's 2:09.