Great Idea!

"Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen" (sportwagen)
02/18/2015 at 19:59 • Filed to: None

What would you guys think of an AW11 MR2 with a 20V 4AGE "Silvertop" engine? It is very rev happy and only makes slightly less horsepower than the supercharged 4AGZE... (and yes, it has been done before, so no originality points)

Just listen to it... although this one is a "blacktop" (same engine, next generation)

DISCUSSION (41)

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:05

Sounds niiiiiiiceeeeeeeeee.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 20:09

Yes it does!!!

Also, link to the engine...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Coroll…

it even includes a transmission!

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:10

Now put it on phone and listen to it while driving.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 20:13

lol but did you click the link to ebay?

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:14

EBay was being a little shit, so no I didn't.

Now I did, and WAT?!?!?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 20:17

YES :D

now, about the money... :'(

Combine that and this

http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4892179275…

.... :D

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:19

YISSSSS! Rust would be my only concern with Mr2 though.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 20:21

Yeah :( other than that? Nothing!

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:22

they're a non-interference head, turn up with a timing belt and tensioner pulley and drive it away.

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:23

True that!

It's probably got a rusted out subframe or something though.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard
02/18/2015 at 20:25

I would... if I had money :'(

Maybe a small loan is in order???

Also, they are two hours away sooooo...

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 20:28

And a broken timing belt...

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:28

New engine, no problem, haha.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 20:29

Non interference though

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:30

Hmm, 2jz. You need that.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 20:31

What? This is a 4AGE though?

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:33

2jz look better though

Sn210 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:34

uuuuugggggghhhhhhh that sound!!!!!

I support this decision

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 20:35

But a 2JZ won't fit -_-

Also, the engine is still good! The timing belt snapping did not destroy the engine... because non interference. All it needs to be running again is a new timing belt and tensioner (apparently)

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Sn210
02/18/2015 at 20:36

Yes. Now I just need to get this car

http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4892179275…

small loan anyone? How would I convince my parents?

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:37

you could probably make money on it. Though my scam senses are tingling because there's only one poorly cropped picture and it's dirt cheap even with the broken timing belt.

Desu-San-Desu > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:41

I've always had dreams of an AW11 MR2 with a Honda/Acura K20A2 with a Comptech supercharger...

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard
02/18/2015 at 20:42

Well... if I bought it I wouldn't be selling it :)

...if it is real

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Desu-San-Desu
02/18/2015 at 20:44

Eh, too much fab work involved. A 4AGE is what came standard and is therefore a direct swap

Desu-San-Desu > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:50

Not really. They make motor mounts for the conversion and it's not hard at all to reverse the shift linkage.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Desu-San-Desu
02/18/2015 at 20:54

Still... the 4AGE is a direct swap (they are the same engine FFS)

Desu-San-Desu > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 20:57

But-but-but- 210 naturally aspirated 2.0L with 8,700rpm redline...

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Desu-San-Desu
02/18/2015 at 21:03

But effing expensive!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_od…

Meanwhile...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Coroll…

Includes both the engine and the transmission!

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 21:09

Ah, nice. MAKE IT FIT THEN!

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 21:11

NOOOOOO

Also, I just texted and emailed the guy with the MR2 to see whether or not it is a scam... I might just be able to get it if I can convince my old man and his old man that it would make the perfect birthday/graduation gift :')

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 21:14

Haha, you go and look at it first though :)

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 21:16

But its TWO HOURS away :(

Maybe I could have davesaddiction or one of the other Tulsa oppos look at it?

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 21:16

You could try that! Never buy a car without seeing it, haha.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 21:17

Well... this one might be different (on the slim chance this actually happens)

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 21:18

Lol, the "NO FRAME" special :)

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
02/18/2015 at 21:20

Don't say that! It WILL make it rust :(

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 21:24

IT'S NOT MEEEE!

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/18/2015 at 21:25

I bought mine three hours away. Suck it up and make the drive to check it out. That's how deals happen and you find the good ones. They won't come to you.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
02/18/2015 at 21:29

I know. I will try to get enough money together (selling shit?) to buy it... offer the guy $800, pay full price if he won't budge

My only issue is that he doesn't have either the VIN or the mileage of the car in the ad... although the phone number is real :/

MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
02/19/2015 at 11:06

The power numbers for 20v engines are highly misleading. In the real world, the blacktop only puts down around 135ish, silver top only around 125. Just for reference my GZE puts down 151 with a much broader curve and way more torque.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
02/19/2015 at 11:27

Don't care, too encapsulated in the noise!

Seriously though, I don't really care about the power numbers so much as the driving dynamics (and price)

A decent 20V Silvertop swap with new valve springs and odds and ends would cost around $1600... and it will be lighter than the 4AGZE model!