Lemon Law Myths - Ep. XVIII - Lehto's Law

"SteveLehto" (stevelehto) 02/12/2015 at 09:00 • Filed to: None

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This will bum out many of the BMW-fanboys and used car sellers who lurk in these parts but I debunk the most common Lemon Law Myths in my latest episode of Lehto's Law . I was inspired by a frequent comment I get whenever I mention the law in one of my posts - !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

There are a handful of the BMW guys who jump in and explain that BMWs are so superior to the regular cars peasants like you and me drive that even the "Lemon" BMWs are great purchases. Some of the stuff I have seen written on this topic is mind-boggling and not worth going into here. But I did go into it in my podcast, along with many other myths I hear on the topic (or have heard in my 23 years of practice).

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I am also approaching a few very cool milestones. I am nearing 10,000 cumulative listens and one particular podcast ( Bad Dealer Horror Stories ) is approaching 1,000 listens all by itself. If you haven't given that one a listen, please do.

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And please, don't anyone tell Doug I mentioned him. I'm sure he's too busy to listen to my little podcast so if you don't tell him, he'll never know.

Oh, and the pic at the top? Nothing to do with Lemon Law: That's me driving Bobby Isaac's K&K Daytona on the road in front of the Talladega raceway a few years back. I explained all that here:

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-Steve

macanamera > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 09:12

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Ha, this was great. Makes me want to be an attorney.

SteveLehto > macanamera 02/12/2015 at 09:13

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Thanks. I can't imagine doing a "general" practice. It's much more fun 1) working with cars and 2) suing people who rip off others (Whether dealers or manufacturers).

44444444444 > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 09:21

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Another fantastic episode!

SteveLehto > 44444444444 02/12/2015 at 09:35

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Thanks!

Garrett Davis > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 10:36

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Awesome, I've been looking for another good podcast.

drdude > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:13

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I dont see an article here.. just a whole bunch of stuff I cant play at work.

SteveLehto > drdude 02/12/2015 at 11:13

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Sorry. (No headphones?)

NotManyPeopleKnowThat > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:14

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"There are a handful of the BMW guys who jump in and explain that BMWs are so superior to the regular cars peasants like you and me drive that even the "Lemon" BMWs are great purchases."

This reminds me of a joke...

What's the difference between a BMW and a porcupine?

With the BMW, the prick's on the inside.

drdude > Garrett Davis 02/12/2015 at 11:14

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I have not. Someone write down what hes saying so I can read it.
This is almost as bad as trying to read a news article, and they want to stream a clip of the TV news.

ScoobsMcGee > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:19

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Listened to your podcast and realized that I've been pronouncing your last name incorrectly all this time. Sorry about that.

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:21

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That was entertaining, now please tell me you will dissect the legal parts of the opening episodes of Better Call Saul? I couldn't quite understand the scam he was attempting to run that backfired. Hey it's automotive related. Plus you can talk about lawyers who drive Suzuki Esteems.

SteveLehto > ScoobsMcGee 02/12/2015 at 11:21

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Not a problem. "LAY-toe" is not even correct. In Finnish (which the name is) it is pronounced with a short "e" as in "let" - and the Finns pronounce the "h". So it is "LEH-toe."

But I talk too fast (and too American) to say it right.

Thanks for the note.

drdude > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:22

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Years of motorsports mean that the headphones would be as loud as speakers for those around me.

DerW220 > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:22

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Thanks for the podcasts!

SteveLehto > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 11:23

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I've been meaning to check that show out but haven't. Usually, lawyer-portrayals on TV don't go so well. (And are horribly unrealistic and difficult to watch.) But I'm hearing good things about that one.

If you are curious, the best "law" movie ever made was "Anatomy of a Murder." Without question, hands-down, best courtroom scenes ever shot for Hollywood.

drdude > NotManyPeopleKnowThat 02/12/2015 at 11:24

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The punchline is... with a porcupine the pricks are on the outside.

If they cant figure out the rest, they dont deserve to laugh. lol.

SteveLehto > drdude 02/12/2015 at 11:24

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I hear you. Years of listening to music too loud through headphones did the same to me.

ScoobsMcGee > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:28

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Perkele!

NotManyPeopleKnowThat > drdude 02/12/2015 at 11:29

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That works better, actually.

Then again, you are assuming hardcore BMW fanboys have a sense of humor.

SteveLehto > ScoobsMcGee 02/12/2015 at 11:30

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Kiitos paljon.

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:39

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You should, in a previous career I was a PI who specialized in accident investigations, and financial crimes that weren't big enough for the Police so the victims would go civil. I thought I'd seen every scam out there but I can't for the life of me figure out what his plan was setting up an accident on someone he wanted as a client.

detailer4u > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:41

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I'm not waiting until lunch. I try not to let a little thing like work get in the way of my "Jalop Joy" .......... I will be partaking shortly. Thanks for the great work as always Mr. Lehto!

SteveLehto > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 11:41

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I'll check it out but it might baffle me too. I have seen stuff that even had attorneys listed as consultants that included stuff that made no sense. Or entire John Grisham stories.

I suspect that an attorney might pitch someone a plot line and then some scriptwriters "punch" the script up to the point where it is fun and dramatic but no longer makes sense legally.

SteveLehto > detailer4u 02/12/2015 at 11:42

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Thanks. Let me know your thoughts after.

detailer4u > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:43

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Thank you sir I defintely will ................

TheamazingJared > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:45

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While I appreciate the podcast, I prefer reading. If something didn't come across clear I can quickly review what was written, compared to trying to get the right spot in a stream to listen again. Also managing a small lot of people, I get interrupted frequently, and will go back a sentence or two to refresh where I was, not practical in the pod cast. Please don't make this your normal method of delivery in the future, as I will be missing a substantial amount of your future content if you do.

asspennies > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:48

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Great podcasts Steve, I'm pretty careful at the dealerships but if I EVER find myself in a bad spot due to shady dealings you're the guy I'm calling.

My citroen won't start > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 11:48

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I think the point of setting up an accident wasn't a legal scam but a way to create ties/gain the trust of the couple he wanted as clients. "Saul helped me when that accident happened, therefore he is trustworthy/fit to help me with my case"

SteveLehto > TheamazingJared 02/12/2015 at 11:48

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Sorry about that. I do the podcasts every week AS WELL AS the articles I write. Sometimes the topics overlap and sometimes they don't. The articles are usually more specific than the podcasts since you can do that when writing.

I had a radio show years ago and the podcast thing is an extension of that.

I generally post the podcast announcements on Oppositelock each THURS morning to let people know that a new one is up. That post is usually seen by a handful of people over there and then it kind of fades away. This morning it got posted to the FP. Which I appreciate greatly. But I do see your point.

Thanks for the note.

SteveLehto > asspennies 02/12/2015 at 11:50

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Thanks! I appreciate the note.

zetec duratec ECOTEC > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:53

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I wasn't curious, but now I am. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll have to watch that.

doodypie > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 11:54

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The "scam" was to get the idiot skater kids to try and scam her, then come rushing in as a white knight. She swoons, gets hubby to write him a retainer check now that he's "proven" himself, and Jimmy McGill, Esq. has his first non-PD client.

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > doodypie 02/12/2015 at 11:55

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But why would that work why wouldn't she go the the real McGill law firm?

doodypie > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 11:56

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She did. It didn't work. That's kinda the point; Jimmy isn't Saul yet, and he's hapless.

PartyPooper2012 > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 11:56

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Scam was simple really - as a lawyer, he convinces the legitimate/intended client to pay the skate boarders and make them go away. This buys trust and potential client in future

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 11:59

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Listened to both while doing some mindless work at my desk - good stuff, Steve!

TheCraigy > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:00

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Advising people to not purchase any auction cars whatsoever eliminates literally millions of cars from the market, to protect from the possibility of buying a very small portion of these cars (some fraction of a percent?). Used car dealers, for example, probably get 90-100% of their cars from auction unless they are tied to a new dealer for trades. But avoiding all auction cars probably would virtually eliminate all possibility of picking up a lemon.

I suppose for the risk averse client it's probably not that big of a deal if they're shopping for a Camry or F150 or something else very common, as there are plenty available to choose from.

Enjoyed the episodes!

I'm Abe Froman > My citroen won't start 02/12/2015 at 12:05

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This. The skaters were too stupid to realize the difference.

Garrett Davis > drdude 02/12/2015 at 12:13

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You should give podcasts a try. They're great for commutes.

davedave1111 > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:16

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Oh, I hadn't even noticed that. I thought the Finnish version was spelled differently.

So are you related to JJ, then?

Rock517 > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:17

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Fellow Michigan attorney here. It's tough to watch lawyer/law movies. A Few Good Men used to be one of my favorite movies. Then I went to law school and, more importantly, got a few jury trials under my belt. Now the courtroom scenes are difficult to watch! Excuse me, Tom Cruise, but you can't just wax poetic while questioning a witness NOR can you turn to the jury and start talking directly to them, asking rhetorical questions and such! A great movie ruined for me!

Hond4482 > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:17

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Rock517 > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 12:23

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I think the scam was going to work like this: skater gets hit by the treasurer's wife. They threaten to extort her for the "accident," Jimmy/Saul comes to her rescue (by driving by and stopping, I guess?), and he saves her from the attempted extortion. In turn, she'll feel gracious enough to hire him to represent her husband. (And I guess Jimmy/Saul gives the skaters a cut of his retainer to represent the husband, which would've been sizable.)

VAXcat > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:27

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Yep, great movie, and a great novel as well.

spartysparty > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:29

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Steve

You mentioned the EV1 being crushed, if you want to see a green EV1 Mott Community College has one on display at its Regional Technology Center building. Great find..

trunkmonkey > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:46

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Thanks Steve,

I just listened to both pod-casts.Great info to have and I'll forward the links to friends.Be well.

Emerald > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 12:47

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Basically his line of thinking was this:

1. Identify lady whose husband stole 1.5 million dollars from the government, and is looking for a lawyer.
2. Have dumb kid get hit by said lady.
3. Show up on the scene and act like he is on her side and that he will protect her legally in this giving him the knight in shining armor effect.
4. Because of number 3, land the job defending the family in the fraud case, which he can charge a stupid amount of money for.

r1teway > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:47

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What is your opinion of "Twelve Angry Men?"

Dumahim > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:48

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Since we're talking other lawyer related stuff, have you listened to the Serial podcast?

SteveLehto > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/12/2015 at 12:52

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Thanks for the note.

SteveLehto > TheCraigy 02/12/2015 at 12:53

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But you assume that everyone is buying from a dealer. I suppose that might be a bit much but if nothing else, be very wary of it and do what you can to investigate it.

Thanks for the note.

e holder > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 12:54

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Are you talking about the skateboarder he arranged to get hit by the woman in the silver station wagon?

Built BMW Tough > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:55

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What about the original Law & Order? I freaking love that show. Just started season 12, working my way through it.

MannyBones > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 12:56

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There are a handful of the BMW guys who jump in and explain that BMWs are so superior to the regular cars peasants like you and me drive that even the "Lemon" BMWs are great purchases.

I've had BMW's and... HAHAHAHAAHA!

SteveLehto > VAXcat 02/12/2015 at 12:57

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Yes. But that movie rocks. Hollywood normally does so poorly with the law. Clearly, the author understood the law well enough to make it dramatic and realistic.

SteveLehto > spartysparty 02/12/2015 at 12:59

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I've seen it the one in the Buick collection by Mott. Is that the same one?

SteveLehto > trunkmonkey 02/12/2015 at 12:59

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Thanks, I appreciate it.

SteveLehto > r1teway 02/12/2015 at 13:00

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I don't know that I've seen that since I went to law school. I understand the point of the movie but I seem to recall thinking it was a bit over the top.

Coty > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:00

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What I like about you, Steve, is that even though you tell stories about bad dealers, you don't go so far as to say all dealers are bad.

I don't make shit because I lose money on deals trying to help people. I don't pressure them into buying anything or try to screw them over. I still end up seeing the "All dealerships are bad" crap all the time online, so I appreciate you not doing it.

Oh, and "screw you". Sorry, I tried to stop but I had to. Haha.

e holder > TheamazingJared 02/12/2015 at 13:01

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you can listen to it in the middle of the night if you want to - or in the bathroom......are you ALWAYS managing your small lot of people?

SteveLehto > Dumahim 02/12/2015 at 13:01

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No, I haven't. I didn't hear about the ruckus until they were well into it. I've read about it and know the ending was kind of weak - but then they gave the guy a new trial.

I'll probably check it out one of these days.

SteveLehto > Built BMW Tough 02/12/2015 at 13:02

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Ashamed to admit I have never watched it. I got so burned out on law shows that I swore them off. I take it you like the show?

I'll try and check some out.

SteveLehto > Coty 02/12/2015 at 13:04

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Thanks for the note. I am here to tell everyone that LIKE ANY OTHER FIELD there are a handful of dealers that give them all a bad name. I have bought many cars from various dealers in my life and can tell you that I recommend dealers all the time to people. Word of mouth - it's currency in this field and the good ones will benefit when the bad ones mess up.

spartysparty > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:05

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No this one is in the bottom of a staircase in a classroom building on campus that you can walk right up to. Someone took this a couple years ago but this is the one.

http://twitpic.com/2zv0i4

SteveLehto > spartysparty 02/12/2015 at 13:11

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Very cool. I think the one I am thinking of is silver. Thanks!

k4wht::lead singer, driver of the Winnebago > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:17

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Would have been neat to hustle that around Talladega Short Track. It's a dirt track right across from the Superspeedway. Oddly, both are actually in a town called Lincoln and about 10 minutes from Talladega proper. There's also a road course nearby named Talladega Grand Prix.

SteveLehto > k4wht::lead singer, driver of the Winnebago 02/12/2015 at 13:19

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I would have loved to drive it on the track but getting out onto a long straightaway was pretty fun.

k4wht::lead singer, driver of the Winnebago > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:26

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The sound alone would be worth the trip! You're right, getting it on the straight gives you a chance to wring it out a little before hitting a corner. I want to do what you did to that 'bird with the AMC Javelin sitting out by the IMHOF. I live about 25mi north of there for reference.

Built BMW Tough > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:28

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Definitely check it out, but stick to the original series. SVU is entertaining, but that series never went into much detail on the litigation end of things.

Travis M. Cotton > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:29

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Great podcast Steve! I bought a 2005 Honda Odyssey and within the first month it needed new motor mounts and a new transmission (fluid was essentially leaking through the metal...guess a casting problem). I dont know if these guys had ever been sued or something but they went overboard on the courtesy and service to get the car fixed. I still have it today (paid for cars are hard to let go of). This was in SC. Great info in the pod and Im mentally filing it for when I do buy my next car.

SteveLehto > Travis M. Cotton 02/12/2015 at 13:30

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Thanks for the note. I appreciate it.

NOSLucasWiringSmoke > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:36

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That's fantastic, Steve. I didn't know you had a podcast but I am now a subscriber. Thanks!

drdude > Garrett Davis 02/12/2015 at 13:36

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I live 3 miles from work, and 80% of the time I'm riding a bike or motorcycle, jogging, or wondering if my car is actually going to warm up before I get there.
Its not that I have anything against podcasts, I just have no need for them personally, and I expect written articles here... not links to audio.

drdude > NotManyPeopleKnowThat 02/12/2015 at 13:36

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Its funnier when they dont get it.

SteveLehto > NOSLucasWiringSmoke 02/12/2015 at 13:38

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Thanks. I'll keep making them so long as people keep listening.

TheamazingJared > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:44

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Perhaps there is a audio to text program you can make use of, for us irritable types that prefer to just read over listen!

TheamazingJared > e holder 02/12/2015 at 13:45

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Not always Managing, they come with questions and I answer. High end custom car work always requires multiple inputs to make sure the product is one we are all proud of. It's mostly a "Yes, that is great", but maintaining a constant review allows consistent image of product.

Dumahim > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 13:47

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Sort of. He had one trial and that was declared a mistrial. He got a 2 nd one that didn't go as well as the first one was going and was convicted in 2000. Just last week they granted an appeal to determine if he received ineffective counsel due to the lawyer not following up with a possible alibi.

It's a pretty good listen. 12 episodes, anywhere between a 30 minutes to an hour each. I'm not finished yet, but it has been fascinating so far.

SteveLehto > TheamazingJared 02/12/2015 at 13:49

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Not sure how that would read.

Bearded Bastard > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 14:00

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he was trying to get an injury pay out from the driver of the car on his clients, the skateboarders, they would get money for

-mcgill voice "injury, pain and suffering, any mental suffering, lost wages, oppurtunity loss from not being able to skateboard anymore, hey, maybe they were the next tony hawk! anyways, look im here to help you Betsy, i can take care of these skateboarders for you, all i ask in return is you hire me to take care of your mystery 1 million dollars case"

he wanted to give the woman he talked to in the begining an ultimatum. either she pays out huge money to the skateboarder she hit, or she retains him as their lawyer about the money they surely embezzled. he knows they stole the money, but he knows he will be paid for his work to defend them, even if he cant win, he needs money and wants to be paid.

Bearded Bastard > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 14:03

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the idea was to run an injury scam, where he would take care of the injured persons problem, and the woman would hire him on retainer for her and her husbands company. if she refused, he would run her through the mill for as many items as he could, physical and mental pain and suffering, opportunity loss from not being able to skateboard anymore etc.

Bearded Bastard > My citroen won't start 02/12/2015 at 14:03

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and if she didnt hire him he would take her to the cleaners for injury claims on the skateboarder

shitheelandtoe > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 14:06

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I have a question, and I understand the response almost certainly varies from state to state, so if you could answer for states you know about, that would be hugely helpful.

Many of us live in areas that are very close to other states. I live in Virginia close to Maryland, for example. I've bought two cars from Maryland dealers, but titled and registered in Virginia. Whose law, if any, applies here? I read the statutes and it looks to me, a total layman on the law, that I'm SOL if anything goes wrong, which thankfully has not happened.

Thanks.

SteveLehto > shitheelandtoe 02/12/2015 at 14:16

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I can tell you that in MICH, the lemon law covers residents who purchase elsewhere or non residents who purchase here. So you MIGHT have the option of picking which state's law you want to use. Consult a local attorney etc.

m.g.blue > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 14:37

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are you originally from the UP, what with the Finnish and Anatomy of a Murder and all?

SteveLehto > m.g.blue 02/12/2015 at 14:41

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Sort of. My family is but I was born in the lower. My grandfather was the dean of Suomi College and we spent all our summers in the UP. I still go back as often as I can. Mainly to the Keweenaw but I love everything north of the bridge.

31ModelA > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 15:24

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And those shows also make lawyering appear far more sexy and exciting than it usually really is. My wife is a physician at a teaching hospital. When she comes home, I ask her about her day because, well, it really is entertaining to hear about. When I come home, I dread being asked what I did today because "writing discovery requests" doesn't have the same cachet as "putting a man's intestines back in."

What I tell her is this: if you asked a glacier every day what it did that day, you would get some awfully boring answers. But if you would just wait a few (thousand) years and ask it what it's been up to then , you're probably going to hear a hell of a story.

I'd still watch Lehto Law, though. Even it was shot in real time.

Tapas > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 02/12/2015 at 15:29

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Goes without saying but SPOILER ALERT

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Saul was trying to frame the wife of the client by staging a car accident.

This way, he could pretend to swoop in and do his lawyer things to get the wife out of the mess and impress her - so she and her husband would award him the other case about the $1.6mil embezzlement.

The accident happens, but the car speeds away. This is a hit and run, which is a felony.

So Saul was thinking since a more serious crime was committed, he would be able to shake them couple for a few extra bucks.

Also, Suzuki Esteems were very popular in India back in the 90s. They were sold as Sedans though, no coupes.

Jimmy Tango > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 15:55

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I was prepared to be bummed but I never heard something regarding bimmers.

You did say don't buy car pass auction though.

and I am going to do the exact opposite so that sounds terrible.

SteveLehto > 31ModelA 02/12/2015 at 16:00

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I've toyed with the idea of filming a Lehto's Law and putting it on youtube but I don't want people to see what's really behind the curtain!

But you are quite right about the life of a lawyer. Generally a lot of paperwork (office) and waiting (in court) punctuated by a few moments of excitement.

SteveLehto > Jimmy Tango 02/12/2015 at 16:03

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Oh, I may have not made it as obvious but the people who say it is a GOOD idea to buy a lemon are always touting BMWs.

As for auctions, I am really just noting how careful you need to be about them. If you know what you are doing and or getting yourself into (ie., you REALLY know) then you can do ok. I just worry about those "auctioned by the manufacturer" notations in Carfax.

Thanks for the note.

Jimmy Tango > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 16:06

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Thank you Steve. Big fan of what you do, let alone it's saving folks from heartbreaking on cars.

I am planing on leasing cars that were passed through auctions, and were previously used by BMWNA. I see some of them are press cars, but none of them (with several hundreds I have checked out so far) ever have a branded title.

Most of them were through Ohio auction, not sure if OH is one of the states that are leveraged by manufacturers to title wash.

SteveLehto > Jimmy Tango 02/12/2015 at 16:21

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I am curious to see what you find out about those. I suspect that a lot more "press" cars show up at auction than were actually used by the press.

True story: In Michigan, they can call pretty much anything they want a "program car." The car dealers went to Lansing and got the word redefined to mean almost anything, including a former rental vehicle.

Jimmy Tango > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 16:35

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The press vehicle declaration is read off vin number spec sheet from factory.

S902A Sonderkontrolle Pressewagen

translate to english...

S902A Special inspection press vehicles

source: http://5series.net/forums/diy-do-…

JDIGGS > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 17:44

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Lehto's law, love it

SteveLehto > JDIGGS 02/12/2015 at 17:45

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Thanks!

JDIGGS > NotManyPeopleKnowThat 02/12/2015 at 17:47

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Funny, I consider myself a car guy and my entire family is as well.

The only car I've known to be THE WORST. Not a broken tranny or 1 major reoccurring thing. BUT ALL PROBLEMS. Windows broke about 50 times, seriously. Switches on the interior molded and rotted (California dry?) Numerous other problems but the real issue was FAILED OIL PUMP.

Honestly of any other car the worst car I've known, it was a 2001 bmw 3 series. It was purchased brand new. I also personally have a friend who replaced his 335i fp 3-4 times before selling it.

BWW IS THE BEST...........at making Lemons.

JDIGGS > ScoobsMcGee 02/12/2015 at 17:48

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Stupid JARED LETO!

J.Miguel > SteveLehto 02/12/2015 at 21:51

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I always love reading your posts! It's just to prove that not all attorneys are bad

SteveLehto > J.Miguel 02/12/2015 at 21:55

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Thanks for the note. I appreciate it.