Oppo I'm confused by this

"nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul" (nfamouscj)
02/10/2015 at 20:20 • Filed to: None

I saw it this afternoon. Given that the American flag is flown on top it makes me think the flag is being flown in distress as opposed to a sign of disrespect. But factor in the Israeli and Danish flag and interpretations can change. So what do you think?

DISCUSSION (24)

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 20:22

maybe it's their middle finger to the USA, somehow. and say their home countries are better.

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
02/10/2015 at 20:24

I thought about that. But why would they fly the US flag on top if that's the case.

Rico > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 20:24

I might be wrong but there are laws that govern the use of the flag and how it can be displayed.

Sweet Trav > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 20:28

because it's the law.

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Rico
02/10/2015 at 20:29

There are. If I remember correctly the US flag must be flown above all other flags or at equal level with another countries. But the US flag here is being flown upside down which either is done in a sign of protest or is taking up the notion of distress. Given current political climates around the world it's hard to say.

aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 20:29

somewhat related: eariler today i saw a car with a bumper sticker that said "i side with Israel"

and i don't judge nor care about what you believe in but WHY would you put that on your car when you live in a deeply southern rural town that's majority hillbilly?
You're just asking for someone to roll coal on you and/or vandalize your car

Kat Callahan > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 20:30

Flying the flag upside down, as you know, is a sign of distress (like you mention). Over the last fifty odd years or so (since the 1960s), it has become a protest symbol meaning metaphorical distress and is used both by those on the left and those on the right to indicate, "I love America, but we are seriously fucked up." My guess is that this is such a usage.

It's not only legal and constitutional, it's my opinion that it is respectful, as well, because while it is metaphorical, it is following a true convention of flag use. This is different to me than someone who drops a flag on the ground or folds it unceremoniously or *shudder* burns it. All of which are constitutional, but which I oppose on ethical grounds (and I say this as someone who will soon no longer be an American, I have similar opinions about the Japanese flag).

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 20:30

It doesn't mean disrespect, it means that the country is in distress.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Rico
02/10/2015 at 20:30

Flying the flag upside down is supposed to be used to show emergency distress for passing aircraft. Some far-right extremist nutjobs "concerned citizens" fly the flag upside down because we have a democrat as president and we are apparently completely screwed or something. I point out it is illegal to do that as it is not an immediate emergency. Apparently we immediately need to assassinate the president or something......moral of the story, flying the flag upside down due to political beliefs is still illegal.

You are correct, this is breaking the law.

 > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 20:35

Isn't it obvious? The residents of the house are Jews who hate America and are moving to Denmark.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 20:36

If ours is in the center is had to be highest pole or if of equal height it must be farthest left IIRC, or on top as shown.

Sam > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
02/10/2015 at 20:47

It is technically breaking the law, but there are no penalties or consequences for it.

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
02/10/2015 at 20:55

Pretty sure most of them would have been more than satisfied with a competent replacement, but if you feel the need to assassinate, maybe you should get that checked out.

Rico > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
02/10/2015 at 21:08

Hmm I figured it had to be used for distress only. Flying it for political reasons is odd because Denmark from my quick googling has quite a few socialism traits like universal healthcare.

"In Denmark, social policy in areas like health care, child care, education and protecting the unemployed are part of a "solidarity system" that makes sure that almost no one falls into economic despair." http://www.dsausa.org/what_can_we_le…

I figured anyone who would be anywhere near extreme right would look at Denmark as the wrong way to run a country.

For Sweden > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 21:17

Just the usual Danish nefarious activity.

GhostZ > Kat Callahan
02/10/2015 at 21:26

This is pretty much correct, I believe.

That being said, whether or not something is constitutional is a bad method of whether or not it will get you harmed or arrested as a result. While flag burning itself isn't necessarily illegal, it's pretty damn offensive and can constitute hate speech or start violence.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Jeff-God-of-Biscuits
02/10/2015 at 21:36

Well sadly that isn't enough reason to have them sent to a mental institution. Maybe that's why they fear a single-payer medical system *badum tish*

Kat Callahan > GhostZ
02/10/2015 at 21:47

Flag burning isn't considered obscene speech by SCOTUS by itself. This was tested. It can definitely incite violence. If it is used to incite violence, that's actually a different standard entirely—the clear and present danger standard. I actually took an entire graduate class on the history of first amendment case law (my masters work is Government: Japanese Culture and Politics, but as an American at an American university, there were required courses which included stuff like History of Law, National Defense Policy, Progressive Biographics, Constitutional Law, etc).

ttyymmnn > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 22:06

There is a code , but there are no laws, at least not federal.

This code is the guide for all handling and display of the Stars and Stripes. It does not impose penalties for misuse of the United States Flag. That is left to the states and to the federal government for the District of Columbia. Each state has its own flag law.

Criminal penalties for certain acts of desecration to the flag were contained in Title 18 of the United States Code prior to 1989. The Supreme Court decision in Texas v. Johnson; June 21, 1989, held the statute unconstitutional. This statute was amended when the Flag Protection Act of 1989 (Oct. 28, 1989) imposed a fine and/or up to I year in prison for knowingly mutilating, defacing, physically defiling, maintaining on the floor or trampling upon any flag of the United States. The Flag Protection Act of 1989 was struck down by the Supreme Court decision, United States vs. Eichman, decided on June 11, 1990.

While the Code empowers the President of the United States to alter, modify, repeal or prescribe additional rules regarding the Flag, no federal agency has the authority to issue 'official' rulings legally binding on civilians or civilian groups. Consequently, different interpretations of various provisions of the Code may continue to be made. The Flag Code may be fairly tested: 'No disrespect should be shown to the Flag of the United States of America.' Therefore, actions not specifically included in the Code may be deemed acceptable as long as proper respect is shown.

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html#…

ttyymmnn > Rico
02/10/2015 at 22:07

My reply to nFamous, linked, rather than repost the whole thing.

RedPir8Roberts > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 22:10

"Help, we are in distress, no danishes for the barmitzvah!"

wafflesnfalafel > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 22:16

A crazy Jewish viking living in the states. Need a few more of these folks. (Whatever you do - don't piss them off.)

Hey, y'all, watch this! > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/10/2015 at 22:19

In a plot twist, it turns out all three flags are being flown upside down.

pip bip - choose Corrour > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
02/11/2015 at 02:15

maybe they're unaware