"WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe" (wesbarton89)
02/04/2015 at 15:08 • Filed to: Oppositelock Revue, Stealerships | 6 | 25 |
Today, I have a special treat for you!
A review, AND a story, about the stealership that I got the car from, the first and only time I've ever been truly taken by a dealer, lots of red flags, and a lot of stupidity on my part that could have easily been avoided had I been more careful.
So, my '98 Millenia had blown up in the past couple months, and my fiancee and I each working a job in different areas, at different hours, we needed a second vehicle in addition to my 1992 Ford Explorer. So, with a $1,000 down payment in hand, we went to a Buy Here Pay Here dealership, which, I have no shame in giving the name of, D&D Motors, located here in Maryland. So, my choice for this $1,000 down, poor credit, and no cosigners, was this Cavalier. This was at the tail-end of 2011, so the car was just about to be 11 years old. It had 146k on the clock, and was white, just like the one in the picture below. (Not mine pictured) It had some dents in the body, the odometer backlight was mostly burnt out, and there were other issues as well, which we would come to find out.
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So, I take the vehicle on a test drive, and it gets scarily close to overheating, just within a 5 mile drive. This is on a Saturday morning. So, they agree to look at it, and I'll have it Monday. Being desperate, I stupidly agree. So, Monday, I have the car, and it's running fine now, but I never learned what the issue was. So, for $1,000 down, I have this crappy Cavalier, which for the next three years, I will be paying $289 per month for, at 23% interest, including 24 month/24k mile Bumper-to-Bumper warranty, with $100 deductible. All figured out, I'll have paid nearly $13,000, not including repairs, for this clunker! Not to mention, there's a "PassTime" system in the car, which means I have to wait for a beep to start it up, and enter a code after I make my payment. If I'm late, I can get a 24hr emergency code, otherwise it won't start. Close to payment time, it starts beeping for 10-15 seconds before I can start it at all. I ran into a myriad of issues with the car. Within a week, the window motors went out. They were replaced. Three months after I buy the car, the water pump goes out. It won't start, nothing at all. I get it towed, pay $100 deductible, get it fixed, and I'm on my way. The window motors had also failed again at this point, so they were fixed, free of charge. Then, three months later, again, the alternator craps out on me. Repeat process above. I get an oil change done at the same time, which is not under warranty, and sets me back a glorious $50. Woo-freakin'-hoo!
So, for awhile, the car runs fine. It looks rough, and it's a wheezy 4-pot, but it does ok. I did have a tire blowout, but my stepdad had an '02 Cavalier to use as a derby car, and he just gave me a tire from it, as it didn't even have a spare. So, the tire gets put on. It does what it needs to do. At this point, I've had the car for about a year and four months. I start it up, leave for work, and not two minutes later, I hear a god-awful racket, and the car just dies. I threw a rod! Now, you may be thinking, "but you have a warranty, replace the engine for only $100!" Not so lucky, my friends. Remember that warranty? 24 months or 24,000 miles, whichever comes first? At this point, I had just put right at 26,000 on the clock. TWENTY-SIX THOUSAND. TWO THOUSAND MILES OVER THE MAX! So, I call the dealership, tell them I'm done, tell them to keep the car, and I take a hit on my credit for voluntary repo. I was going to file a claim to MD's Lemon Law equivalent, with all the service records and "clean" CarFax, but get this, the service department won't give me the records! They said it's because it's organized by date, and not customer name, or car make and model. I fight with them, and they still won't give me the records. Eventually, I grow frustrated, and give up with them. Some time before this, the Explorer had given up its transmission, so this was our only vehicle. We drive my mom's '99 Durango for awhile, until that breaks down, and then !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! Now, onto the review proper!
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As I said, this is not my car pictured, but it is identical in style and color.
( Full disclosure : Chevrolet wanted me to drive this car so badly, they sold it to several people, and then the dealership acquired it, probably for $200 at an auction, gave it a quick once over, inspected it, got it ready for sale, and sold it to me for a paltry sum of nearly $13,000)
Exterior 1/10
These cars, as you can see above, are dreadfully bland, ugly appliances. Mine was decorated with various dents, dings, and scratches, with only one dent being caused by me. It was white, four doors, four wheels, a hood, and a trunk, the most basic form of transportation. It looked like crap.
Interior 1/10
Again, very basic. Cramped on the inside. Manual everything except windows and windows. The dash was cracked. The seat recline lever, and driver's door handle both broke off, so the recline lever was rigged into a makeshift door handle to open the door. The rear passenger door's child lock was permanently stuck, so it would only open from the outside. Unlike the one pictured, my radio was CD and Cassette. The gauge cluster didn't even have a tach. Just speedometer, odometer, fuel gauge, and temp gauge. No cruise control at all. Cloth seats, with the metal bars starting to poke through the backs of the seat. Absolutely no seat bolsters or support, and just very uncomfortable, especially for long journeys.
Acceleration 1/10
What acceleration? This car had a 2.2l 4 cylinder, which took literally forever to hit 60mph. It was awful, especially paired with the crappy four-speed auto. The engine wheezed and buzzed anytime you would step on the gas, and it just sounded so sick. So bad, so so bad.
Braking 3/10
It broke. Plenty. Oh, you mean stopping? It stopped running a lot. Seriously though, the brakes were crappy. It didn't take a lot to stop it considering how small this car was, but pedal feel was poor and mushy, and braking even at 25mph felt unsafe.
Ride 0.5/10
Supremely subpar ride quality. It was rough, you felt every bump. Traveling at highway speeds felt unsafe. Anything over 50mph, the car shook bad, and taking it to 70-80? You don't even want to find out. What a piece of junk. And, it's inherent in Cavs and Sunfires, as I've been in several of this generation, and they all ride and drive the same.
Handling 1/10
It didn't. I would not take this thing on twisty, curvy roads, or any sort of track. It had a terrible, rough suspension, and just handled poorly overall.
Gearbox 1/10
A horrible four-speed autotragic, which often hunted for gears, jumped gears, and was barely adequate. Just terrible. Worst automatic I've had the displeasure of driving. It only gets one point simply because it HAS a gearbox.
Toys 1/10
Well, not really anything in those regards. The radio display did show the song name and artist name sometimes, but it would get stuck, and not update. It had a working CD player and cassette player. Power windows and lock, and power steering. That's about it. It was the size of a toy if that counts.
Audio 3/10
The radio sounded okay enough. It was typical for an econobox. I could listen to music at least. Engine audio from 2.2l engine sounded terrible. It really did. Not a pleasant engine noise. I hated it. Remember Brainy from Hey! Arnold? His wheezing? Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
Value 0.5/10
As I said, this vehicle was GROSSLY overpriced, and I really got taken by the dealership, and I learned a lot, and that's the only value here. The price of this car, without interest, was somewhere around $7,000, I think. WAY TOO MUCH MONEY! This car was just the worst car ever, in so many ways, it really was. 26,000 miles of nothing but headaches, and the gas mileage wasn't even that great!
Overall 13/100
Look at how low that score is! I don't know why people bought these penalty boxes! Why would anyone spend their hard-earned money on this junk? Really!
Engine : 2.2L I4
Output : 115hp @ 5000 rpm/135 lb-ft of torque at 3600 rpm
Transmission : 4-speed automatic
0-60 time : 9.2s
Top speed : Around 105mph
Curb weight : 2,700-ish lbs
Seating : 5
MPG : 20 city/27 hwy
Price when new: $15k tops?
Price as tested: ~ $13,000
Have a bonus pic of mine on a rollback.
RazoE
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:15 | 0 |
I'm sorry but if you didn't go for a Corolla, you deserved every bit of it!!!!!
Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:18 | 1 |
Chalk this up to a lesson learned and move on. You probably would have been better off just using that 1k down to buy a beater.
As for the lemon laws, I'm 99.9% sure that only applies to new cars. If you buy a POS used vehicle, that's on you unfortunately.
area man
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:21 | 2 |
holy moly did you get taken. Great read though, very entertaining. You should write more long stuff!
SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:22 | 1 |
My brother had one of these. What a piece of shit, but at least his was reliable. It was one of the worst cars I have ever driven, and I grew up in a Tercel.
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> RazoE
02/04/2015 at 15:24 | 0 |
They didn't have one in stock! And yeah, in a way, I did deserve it for not protecting myself, but some lessons you learn the hard way.
thebigbossyboss
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:24 | 1 |
Well, I mean for 13,000 it really was a terrible choice. I didn't even pay 1/4 of that for mine. In 2010.
Then again I have learned some other lessons in my life that were not quite equally as expensive but also cost. Glad it's gone, if you hated it. The Manual was much better.
Justin Hughes
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:24 | 1 |
Well think of it this way - at least you got an entertaining article out of it for your trouble!
OK, so I'm helping about as much as the cat helps you read your newspaper by lying down across the middle of it.
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
02/04/2015 at 15:26 | 0 |
I should have done that, yes. I assumed (very wrongly at the time), that if it was from a dealership, it'd be something newer than what I could get for $1,000 flat out, and would be better maintained and more reliable. I made the mistake, and I dealt with it, and I took it in stride. Never again though. I've learned a whole lot since.
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
02/04/2015 at 15:27 | 0 |
They are really terrible. I've never been in a Tercel, so I can't compare, but it doesn't sound like they were great.
RazoE
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:27 | 0 |
Tell me about it. My first car was a $700 Nissan 240sx. After 5 months, 2 engines, 2 fuel rails (oh yeah, TWO), an alternator, distributor, and $3000, I got rid of it.
Twism
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:27 | 1 |
I had an 04 Sunfire (same car, different badge) and my experience couldn't be more different:
Stellar Ecotec engine, paired with a pretty neat Getrag manual 5-speed. It was the fastest car on the high school lot, it ferried 5 teens without complaint, would get good mileage and survived every dumbfuckery my young self threw at it.
one-wheel burnout? Yup.
E-brake drift through snow? you bet.
Top-speed run while chasing an old E30 on the highway? yup. topped at 105 and stayed right there.
offroading on its way to the lake? Sure!
It even handled decently enough to autocross it a few times.
I sold it years later to another teen, who promptly blew the engine while mis-shifting (went from fifth, aimed for fourth, punched second).
I recommended a similar car to a few friends, and they loved theirs.
Moral of the story: get the Ecotec and the Getrag, and you will get a pretty neat econobox. get anything else (except the Z24, that was a nice low-budget drag car) and you will be miserable.
(not mine pictured, but similar, minus the wheels)
thebigbossyboss
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:28 | 0 |
Mine is great you be quiet. It goes "brrraaaaaappp"
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> area man
02/04/2015 at 15:29 | 0 |
Yeah, I sure did. Glad you enjoyed reading about it though! I'll see what I can come up with for more long write-ups in the future.
SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:31 | 0 |
The Tercel was, well, an 80s Toyota, so at the end of the day, it wasn't that bad. It was unreliable by Toyota terms, but it got great gas mileage and handled relatively well since it was under 2000 lbs.
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> thebigbossyboss
02/04/2015 at 15:33 | 0 |
They're cheap cars. If I'd only paid a couple thou for it, I might not have been as upset, but by the time it was all said and done, the headache I went through with this car, coupled with what I was paying for it, and the stupid lockout system, it was enough to drive most people crazy.
thebigbossyboss
> Twism
02/04/2015 at 15:33 | 1 |
I actually drive J now. Dat 5 speed really helps it. Here it is. I made a monster truck.
thebigbossyboss
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:34 | 0 |
The lockout system really is terrible. What a bunch of crooks. I paid about $2.9K for mine.
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> Twism
02/04/2015 at 15:37 | 0 |
And I've known others who've had the same experience as you. I mean, I know they can't all be bad. You got lucky. I didn't.
Twism
> thebigbossyboss
02/04/2015 at 15:38 | 1 |
Dat clearance, tho.
stick some mud flaps on it and it will be a proper rally car!
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> thebigbossyboss
02/04/2015 at 15:39 | 0 |
That's a much more fair price. And yeah, absolute crooks. I won't ever go back.
Twism
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:40 | 0 |
Yeah, that's unlucky. to be fair though , you pretty much got the worse combination (old 2.2, 4-speed slushbox).
learn from it and move on from there, my friend.
Nice writing by the way!
thebigbossyboss
> Twism
02/04/2015 at 15:42 | 0 |
Hell yeah. I should.
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> Twism
02/04/2015 at 15:46 | 1 |
Thank you! And believe me, I definitely moved on. I try to buy all my vehicles straight out now in cash, and it helps a lot. I bought my 2000 Durango from a dealership, in cash, just under a year ago, and other than basic maintenance, it's held up perfectly fine. Not perfect, but for $2200, it's not awful. I'm picking up my 250k mile 2000 Infiniti I30 sometime before this weekend, that I'm paying $800 cash for, and if it operates as good as it looks, I'll be happy. I haven't had a car payment in nearly a year, and I'm much better off now.
Twism
> WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
02/04/2015 at 15:52 | 0 |
Oooh, keep us posted on that I30, these things went under the radar for some reason. Great cars, though.
WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe
> Twism
02/04/2015 at 16:05 | 0 |
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/here-is-what-8…
Here's the original post of it. I went and looked at it, and thoroughly checked it out this past Saturday. With any luck, I'll be able to pick it up tomorrow night, and have it on the road by Friday or Monday.