Can't We Get This Man A Car?

"SteveLehto" (stevelehto)
02/01/2015 at 08:55 • Filed to: None

James Robertson is a 56 year-old Detroiter who works in Rochester Hills, MI. There is a distance of 23 miles between his work and his home. He has no car - his Honda Accord died - so he takes the bus part of the way and walks the rest. "The rest" being 10 1/2 miles each way. This man walks 21 miles each day to get to his job.

Sometimes, people give him rides but most of the time it's just him, hoofing it to and from the bus stops (southeast Michigan has spotty mass transit). His days are long but he has a stellar attendance record because he does this every single work day.

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I'm not an internets techster so I know nothing of your crowdmoney kickfunders and so on but how hard could it possibly be for us to raise a few bucks and get this guy a car? He's a true American Hero and Heroes should have cars.

UPDATE: A gofundme site has been set up for James. Donate here if you are inclined to help. I suggest putting "Jalopnik" in the subject line, as I just did. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

UPDATE II: Yes, getting James a "car" contemplates the cost of insurance and maintenance. Due to the generous donations received so far, it looks like he will be able to budget for those things too. (There is no need to post questions - or send angry emails - asking, "Hasn't anyone thought about the insurance?!")

DISCUSSION (100)

ttyymmnn > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 09:10

I watched the NHL All Star game last week. They used a format where the team captains picked their teams. The last two players picked received a new car as consolation. So they gave a brand new car to two people who can easily buy two. Or more. I'd rather they give a new car to people like this. Or donate one to Meals On Wheels. Or buy a van to give to those who support the homeless.

djmt1 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 09:11

Being in Detroit maybe one of the big three will step in and give him a car or maybe even Honda will give him a new Accord. He deserves it. I'm 21 and my commute to Uni was only 6 miles and that battered me I couldn't imagine going double that at 53. What a Guy.

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 09:26

Why is he a hero because he walks to work?

SteveLehto > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
02/01/2015 at 09:34

124

Because most people would not do that walk. They would quit the job and look for something closer to home or they would go on unemployment.

deekster_caddy > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 09:35

Around here we have a charity called Good News Garage which handles accepting and distributing cars for the needy. Is there anything close to this in MI? It's probably where we will give my mother's '97 Buick LeSabre in a few months. They fix up what's wrong with the old cars if they are reasonably repairable and give them to people just like this guy.

http://www.goodnewsgarage.org/

We don't really care where the car ends up, if we can get the thing to MI, send it to this guy! But we aren't ready to part with it just yet (she's still using it), and it has an ABS and CEL light. ABS not so important but we'll need to address the CEL.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
02/01/2015 at 09:36

114

Because he's not saying "fuck it I'm going on welfare". I for one think we should reward this kind of behavior.

Also would you do the same thing if you were in his situation?

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 09:42

I think ' True american hero ' is a bit of an overstatement to be honest. It's not like he is saving puppies from burning buildings or anything, he just walks to work.

Everyone has a different understanding of the word 'hero' I guess.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 09:50

Why would you walk that distance? if you can't afford a car at least get a bike. It's much faster and easier on your feet.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 09:52

This guy is awesome, I wish we had more people in the world like him. I'll put some money in the pot for his car fund.

SteveLehto > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed
02/01/2015 at 09:53

Impossible in the winter but not sure about the summer. I do know that riding a bike at night in those areas would be dangerous on the roads and kind of tough on the sidewalks.

SteveLehto > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
02/01/2015 at 09:53

109

Obviously. When was the last time you did 21 miles on foot?

AthomSfere > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 10:01

So he could not find something closer or move closer to where he works in a decade?

Also, donating a car to this man might not be a solution at all. A nice thing perhaps but if maintenance and repairing it is not an option will he not be exactly this same predicament in time X?

Don't get me wrong, as someone who has worked and lived below the poverty line, walked 7 miles to get to town and then more to get to work, has a brother that still commutes under his own power everyday a similar trek (medical reasons mostly)... I get wanting to help him. Calling him a hero and saying he deserves a car does no one justice.

We should be looking at what we can do for real fixes here. Find this man a closer/ better job. Find him a house closer to the factory. Get Detroit to fix some of their problems, clear out 8 mile, better mass transit... No clue, but something sustainable that would actually help.

I know my approach is complex, and difficult and would take years to realize, but it would actually solve the problem so that when Robertson is 66 he is reliably able to make it to work, and not walking again because his free car died.

"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too." _JFK got it right!

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 10:02

Not in a long time, I could walk a mile to work but instead I bitch out and take the subway.

jariten1781 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 10:05

He should check with the local churches. Mine usually has a car or two on standby for needy families whose cars crap out. Typically we'll ask for them to help in the thrift shop or kitchen (not required) once they get back on their feet and will also help them with putting together a financial plan if they'll accept the help.

SteveLehto > AthomSfere
02/01/2015 at 10:06

I see your point but he explains the housing thing and jobs in Detroit are hard to come by. I'd love to see all those problems fixed too - since they would help everyone - but this guy sounds like one of the ones who would appreciate the help and put it to good use.

On my morning walk (from a parking lot) to law school, I was often accosted by street people asking for money to buy "food." This was on a stretch of Wilshire (L.A.) near a restaurant that served carry-out breakfast. Several times I asked what they would buy with my money and when they actually described food I took them in to the counter, said they could order and I paid for them.

I'll give someone the benefit of the doubt sometime. (I also had a couple of the people tell me to go F! myself and walk away when I asked what they were going to buy).

Clown Shoe Pilot > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/01/2015 at 10:07

That's pride fucking with him. He's willing to trade significant wear and tear on his body and daily personal risk for what seem to be total poverty wages. It's his right to do it. He SHOULD be rewarded for his work ethic but it's obvious that his employer doesn't believe that. If they believed it he'd be driving to work every day because he owned and could afford to operate a car. They're getting a hell of a deal on his employment for sure.

thebigbossyboss > ttyymmnn
02/01/2015 at 10:11

ovechkin gave his car to some woman who's daughter had either cerebral palsy or downs I forget which.

AthomSfere > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 10:18

Don't get me wrong here: I strongly would like to see this guy get a car. If I could provide 10 people who really would appreciate and use one well, he would be one of the recipients.

My issue really is just that we see entirely too much of the missing the forest for the trees. Sign up on Change.org for example and see how many people are describing real problems in world and then asking for action for one person.

I think if the generous people of Oppo, Change, the Komen Foundation etc. took the current ratio of effort that seems to be 95% the persons affected and 5% the problem and inverted it we would finally see real change and at a phenomenal rate.

(And I realize we are agreeing mostly here, I just so badly would like to live in some of the near utopia's described in Star Trek I guess...)

gas head > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/01/2015 at 10:29

TheRealBicycleBuck > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:01

Not impossible. You need tires with good grip, you need the right kind of brakes, you need to dress in layers, and you need the will to do it (which I think he has in spades).

Zip ties provide the grip :

Kinja'd!!!

A bike with disc brakes provides the stop (even a cheapie from Wal-Mart will do):

Kinja'd!!!

Dressing in layers with good gloves and warm(dry) shoes is very important. I'm sure he already knows this.

All of this is a lot cheaper and easier to maintain than some hooptie car.

SteveLehto > TheRealBicycleBuck
02/01/2015 at 11:03

He's 56. If he hasn't been a bike rider all these years, it might not be the easiest thing to pick up.

d15b > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:04

Gettin' it done. That's what I see.

signinsrlame > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:07

I'd prefer to get him a better job, he's almost 60 and not even pulling $11/hr that's absolutely horrible

SteveLehto > signinsrlame
02/01/2015 at 11:08

I'm all for that as well but I suspect a car is easier to get in Detroit than a better job (closer to home).

signinsrlame > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:11

of course I agree with you, I just think that the employer is a total cad to use him as an exemplar and to not reward him for it. When I lived in Windsor I used to watch the detroit craigslist with some serious envy at what was available. It would be nice if Ford or GM stepped up here

MTY19855 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:11

Average walking pace is three miles per hour. This guy spends seven hours a day walking?

SteveLehto > MTY19855
02/01/2015 at 11:12

Yes.

LeadfootYT > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:13

I'm a fan of your columns, but in this case, that sentiment seems a bit close to the "Poor people should stop being poor" argument. Yes, it's tough for him, and yes, it would be great to crowd fund a car for him. But as far as the "American hero because he walks" point, if he can't afford to fix a 1988 Honda, he's probably in no position to quit and find another job—or even have a single day off to look.

He's not walking 21 miles to taking a stand. He's doing it because that's what impoverished American lifestyles require.

Sethism > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:13

Here's the problem with the world today, Steve: you try to do something nice, and everyone starts bitching and getting political so they can continue to be selfish, petulant children. If this fundraiser gets going, count me in.

I'd love it if we as Jalopnik could buy this guy a car, since he's willing to put in the work every day, no matter what.

MFEJAL grey because who knows... > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:13

Open an account and ask Tavarish for some help. I'll chip in a few bucks.

Spammo6 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:14

I guess you haven't heard the expression "its like riding a bike"...

CrizazyCartXLPilot > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:14

if you actually gave two shits you could spend five minutes and set up a crowd source fundraiser. It would take all but five minutes. I'm thinking you dobt actually care about this guy all that much - at least not enough to motivate you.

"Hey someone should totes do something!"

911Ducktail > deekster_caddy
02/01/2015 at 11:14

this is an incredibly cool concept and I think an orginization like this taking donations would assuage alot of the fears of some of the commentators here worried about the maintenance or the guys "worthiness." I'm honestly going to see if there is one in the Chicagoland area and help out or try and start one here. Your post needs to be brought to the top....

DrinkLiftGamble > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed
02/01/2015 at 11:16

Take into the fact this is Detroit and it is possible they don't even plow streets somedays and on others it might be too deep to even pedal in. But there is always a solution.

Sethism > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
02/01/2015 at 11:16

Given your avatar name here, I'm assuming you're quite young, maybe haven't fallen on hard times before, and probably have no idea what it's like to need but not get.

A little voluntary charity never hurt anyone. Don't want to help? Don't. But in the meantime, stop pissing in this man's cornflakes just because he isn't as fortunate as you are.

djmt1 > CrizazyCartXLPilot
02/01/2015 at 11:17

I'm not an internets techster so I know nothing of your crowdmoney kickfunders and so on but how hard could it possibly be for us to raise a few bucks and get this guy a car?

SteveLehto > LeadfootYT
02/01/2015 at 11:18

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. I read the article and was impressed by his work ethic and the fact that he was not asking anyone to do anything for him. I just thought it might be nice if we all pitched in and did something for him. I certainly never criticized him for being poor.

SteveLehto > CrizazyCartXLPilot
02/01/2015 at 11:20

I have never set one up before.

I have also helped people before, believe it or not. I was just hoping someone who had done it before could help out so I don't have to reinvent the wheel.

Oran J Sands III > TheRealBicycleBuck
02/01/2015 at 11:20

This!! When my only car died beyond redemption and my budget I got out the bike (at about the same age as him. The commuting by bike stabilized my diabetes, dropped my weight saved me enough to get another car and I'm in the best shape I've been in since I was 40. Winters are a bitch (Indiana) but I've got a car for the bad days now. (BTW the bike was free)

Kinja'd!!!

Quade > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:22

Be better off teaching him how to fix his Accord.

"Give a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach him to fish and feed him for life".

SteveLehto > CrizazyCartXLPilot
02/01/2015 at 11:22

Actually, I'll put in the first $100 when someone sets it up. Is that okay with you or do you think "two shits" is worth more than $100?

John Static > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:22

Wow... reading some of the comments...

Is this dude a hero? No. Is he utterly respectable for how he's managed to make things work for himself? Absolutely.

Could he get a job closer to home? Maybe. Could he get a home closer to his job? Maybe.

But he could also use a car to make his current situation better. It really does make a difference.

I was laid off for six months in 2008-2009 with a new baby and had my car repo'd. It was hard finding a job with no car. I was given a sweet '97 Volvo 850 T5 for free and I was able to find a great job 29 miles away that completely re-launched my career and I'm pretty successful now. And I was still broke for a while and had to spend years digging out of a financial hole, but I learned how to fix this car on my own with my other car nut friends. Drove that car until 2013.

My brother was out of work for over a year and finally got a job but had no car anymore and had to share with my mom. When I got a new car this fall, I was able to gift my Camry to him. He was able to take on more hours at work without making it harder on my mom.

It's a little thing, but its huge.

Steve, thank you for not being a jaded prick and for bringing this one man's story to light. I'm sure there are others all over the country in similar situations. We can alll be more aware of those in need around us who are making the best of their situation and help where we can.

kanemack > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/01/2015 at 11:22

You assume a man is going to get welfare. This is why there are so many more men in prison than women. We pretty much have to have a job, or rob people...No welfare for the non breeders.

But hell, hook the guy up with a car. He is one case that proves that a person with a will to work will get there.

menarescumbags_ > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:23

This is white privilege and patriarchy at its finest.

SteveLehto > Quade
02/01/2015 at 11:23

There are only 24 hours in the day. Not sure when he'd have time to be taking the autoshop classes.

NipperDawg > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
02/01/2015 at 11:23

He walks farther to work then most everyone else who complains about not getting a closer spot in the company parking lot. He works farther to work then most people are willing to walk in a mall parking lot. The fact that people are criticizing how hard this man works to get to work in MI weather just shows how jaded we have all become.

TadKosciuszko > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:24

Jesus Christ you pedantic commenting fuckers, heroism comes in many varieties and intensities, quit getting hung up on one use of a slightly trite phrase by the author and realize the greater message being imparted here

NipperDawg > signinsrlame
02/01/2015 at 11:25

And there in lies the problem with the ecnomy. It costs money to move. It costs money to find a job (take time off from work). He may have roots where he is a mortgage where he is just making ends meet.

NipperDawg > MFEJAL grey because who knows...
02/01/2015 at 11:25

I'm in too.

SteveLehto > TadKosciuszko
02/01/2015 at 11:26

Considering how the word is used today, I honestly thought I was safe using it.

Thanks for the support.

NipperDawg > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:27

Give him a car and he can get back those 6 hours a day, to do what he wishes, spend more time bettering himself, with his family, a second job who knows, but thats 7 hours out of the house that he is not making money, if anything it is costing him money.

TommyRocker > Sethism
02/01/2015 at 11:29

explain?

Vincent Davidson > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:29

In jail.

Sethism > TommyRocker
02/01/2015 at 11:30

Explain what?

adamoffwoodward > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:31

He should check out Volunteers of America in Pontiac. They're older, but reconditioned to be ... well, driveable. Also, if he is on any assistance or served the military, he'll get a decent discount.

Mister Win Blames People, Not Guns > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
02/01/2015 at 11:31

Because you're an asshole, that's why.

adamoffwoodward > deekster_caddy
02/01/2015 at 11:32

Volunteers of America has a lot in Pontiac, MI. Also, I think Charity Motors does something similar in Detroit.

Tapas12345 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:32

http://www.gofundme.com/l7girc

AlienProbe > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:33

We can get him this...

Kinja'd!!!

DipodomysDeserti > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:33

I'll see if I can find someone who knows how to set up some sort of fundraising thing for this guy. As you can tell by the commenters, the idea of a working class is completely foreign to most people in 1st world countries these days. The vast majority these days thinks sitting at a desk for 8 hours constitutes hard work. I have a 65 year old Vietnam vet who works for our company. The guy has bad knees yet he's able to stand for most of the day and he does his job better than anyone else. Then Ive got a guy half his age who goes home early every other week because his back hurts. It blows my mind how the younger guy can look at himself in the mirror every morning. Pride is a concept foreign to a lot of Americans nowadays.

icyhot > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:33

So should we crowd fund cars for people in third world countries who walk miles to work as well?

SteveLehto > AlienProbe
02/01/2015 at 11:33

It was not clear that he still had the car (or if the problem could be fixed economically).

Turbo740 > John Static
02/01/2015 at 11:34

This dude is a man. He's doing what he has to do to pay the bills. How can anyone not respect that. But hey it's ok I'm sure all of the trolls have had to walk 20 miles to work and have had to work a shitty job because they didn't have another option.

Also I was wondering where all the other brick drivers were. Someones gotta have an only 240 or 740 up there that would get him to work. Yes it will leak and yes it will always need tinkering. But it will still get him to work.

MooseKnuckles > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:34

I see people bike all the time, live anywhere near a University and you see students givin'er hell in blizzards. Beefy zip-ties around the tires are like studs on ice.
I think it sucks for this guy, but there are a lot of people down on their luck and not everyone can be "Oprah'd".
Part of the 23 mile journey he faces is that it is his choice to do, there are always options.

Boss2452stolemylunchmoney > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:34

not impossible... http://www.icebike.org

TommyRocker > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:36

Walking 21 miles a day isn't the easiest thing, either. As a guy who has had to walk 5 or 6 miles in Midwest winters because my car wasn't up to the task, I feel this guy, but I still fail to understand why he hasn't remedied it somehow by now unless he's only been walking it for a few days.

Desu-San-Desu > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:36

Someone set up a crowdfund for the guy and I will chip in $50. I've been in something close to his situation before and Jalopnik pulled through and helped me get out of the predicament I was in. I wish I could give more, but my fiancee and I are currently saving up to move.

Drivercarriesnomoney > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:37

Chipping in to get this guy a car is all well and good, but don't we also need to chip in to get this guy insurance? How about gas? Does he even have a license to drive or was it possibly revoked because of some past misdeed?

I really think we need to know more about his situation before going into knee-jerk mode to help.

speeddemon807 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:37

Hey Ford, GM and Chrysler, give him a new car please.

adamoffwoodward > AthomSfere
02/01/2015 at 11:37

Keep in mind, he's of the age where companies still offered pensions. If he's been with this company for a long time, he might have one coming to him, not to mention the benefits that come with working somewhere for a long time. He may not make much where he's at, but it's probably better than having to start over again- not to mention, how many people are going to hire a 56 year old? I mean... it sucks, but let's be realists. There's clearly a reason he's done that shitty commute, so telling him to get a new job likely isn't feasible.

D-Dubya > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:37

Everyone has a hardship and everyone struggles; some more than others. What makes this guy different or more deserving from anyone else who has the grit to do "tough" things. What about the single mom out there just barely getting by who's car just broken down and doesn't have a way to get to work. Do she need help less than this guy? How about the guy willing to do what this guy does but can't find a job? James' situation may be tough, but he has more than a lot of people do.

SteveLehto > TommyRocker
02/01/2015 at 11:37

If you read the story, he explains that the house and job are things he does not want to give up. A new job closer to his home might be an answer but he lives in DETROIT. Good-paying jobs there are not easy to find.

Druid0 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:38

Here you go:

gofundme.com/l7nftw

SteveLehto > Drivercarriesnomoney
02/01/2015 at 11:39

You don't have to help. The story said his car broke down. Presumably he had a license and insurance and there is nothing to indicate that he couldn't afford those things. He just couldn't afford to get the car fixed.

Boss2452stolemylunchmoney > Tapas12345
02/01/2015 at 11:39

Looks like it's already enough to get the man a car.

SteveLehto > speeddemon807
02/01/2015 at 11:39

While a nice thought, I suspect any serviceable car would do.

SteveLehto > D-Dubya
02/01/2015 at 11:40

True. And you wouldn't have to help either. I just found his story intriguing.

Prophet of hoon > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:40

cars are cheap, insurance is the bitch...

eforeal > MFEJAL grey because who knows...
02/01/2015 at 11:41

Tavarish will get this done for like $1k

SteveLehto > Druid0
02/01/2015 at 11:41

Who is in charge of that account and how do we know the money goes to him?

Druid0 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:43

For anyone who wants to help:

http://www.gofundme.com/l7nftw

SteveLehto > Prophet of hoon
02/01/2015 at 11:43

Yes, but he presumably had it before.

Druid0 > Desu-San-Desu
02/01/2015 at 11:43

http://www.gofundme.com/l7nftw

Xenti > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:44

"He's obviously one of the poors because he's lazy." - Every member of the Republican Party for the past decade

Turbo740 > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:44

Steve I can't do much but I'm in. Is there a way to set it up so it would take care of TTL for him as well. I wonder if there is someone up there that could help him find something dependable.

SteveLehto > Druid0
02/01/2015 at 11:44

Can you email me directly at Lehto@kennon.com?

abutthole > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
02/01/2015 at 11:45

yes, young man, because he walks to work. because our country's economy and your generation's soft as fuck lifestyle and entitled perspective is built on men like this and their ethics

NipperDawg > AthomSfere
02/01/2015 at 11:45

"Get Detroit to fix some of it's problems" Thats been going on for well over ten years, and in that fix they have reduced mass transit options. Thats not a counter argument (as much as stating the obvious) but a cop-out.

BmacIL > Desu-San-Desu
02/01/2015 at 11:45

http://go.redirectingat.com/?id=33330X9116…

SteveLehto > Turbo740
02/01/2015 at 11:46

Working on it . . .

Desu-San-Desu > Druid0
02/01/2015 at 11:47

Done.

BmacIL > Druid0
02/01/2015 at 11:48

http://www.gofundme.com/l7girc

Le Monstre > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:48

Steve, I must apologize for the rudeness that the internet allows on here. You wrote helpful and insightful articles, and to post this to get the word out shows how kind and honest you are. I'm not very "internet" savvy, and I wouldn't know the first thing about starting a crowdfund on here. Please ignore the ignorant ones and keep on doing what you do on here. Remember, you can't spell masses without asses.

BmacIL > Druid0
02/01/2015 at 11:48

http://www.gofundme.com/l7girc

BmacIL > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:48

http://www.gofundme.com/l7girc

Desu-San-Desu > BmacIL
02/01/2015 at 11:49

DruidO sent me a link first to a different GoFundMe for the guy. Any way you guys could consolidate?

SteveLehto > Le Monstre
02/01/2015 at 11:49

Thanks for the support. I was actually kind of shocked.. Among other things, I have been called racist this morning for trying to help another human being.

DipodomysDeserti > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:50

Steve, why don't you set one up since people actually know who you are, then we can donate to it? Just do a separate post with the info. You would then give the money to the guy.

Desu-San-Desu > Druid0
02/01/2015 at 11:50

Turns out there's another page for him with close to $6k raised. Any way you guys could consolidate pages?

Xenti > SteveLehto
02/01/2015 at 11:50

The only heroes are the men and women who wear a uniform, regardless of the rapes, murders, and thefts they commit while wearing it.