PSA - Don't fall for it guys

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/10/2015 at 16:52 • Filed to: None

It’s pro level click-bait

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It offers nothing but a place to feel ways about things. That is all.

DISCUSSION (52)

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 16:54

As I’ve said in the past to other such situations:

They can pry the emission spewing Montego keys from my cold dead hands.

AfromanGTO > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 16:55

Damn hippies! lol

Please what would the people in rental exotics cruise around the beach in to show off?

BringBackTheCommodore > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 16:56

I fell for it before reading your PSA. I agree wholeheartedly with you, that article was written with a starry-eyed vision of people living in a commune. Great on paper, but does not account for the fact that not everyone wants to live a life shoved inside a shoebox.

For Sweden > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:00

Wanting to help reduce emissions

Not targeting bunker oil-fueled ships

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:01

I’m sure the public transportation system would be crippled at even the thought of banning cars..

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:02

I’m all for making cars pollute less (hell I drive a car that gets better fuel economy than a 2nd gen Prius most of the time) but banning them outright is the kind of idea an 11 year old would come up with.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:02

“It’s not a pledge. It’s not a tax. It’s easier than that.”

Eat all the cows so they stop farting and belching.

HammerheadFistpunch > For Sweden
12/10/2015 at 17:02

Exactly

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:03

Problem: People are bad for the environment. Gawker: everyone kill self.

HammerheadFistpunch > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
12/10/2015 at 17:03

DAMN STRAIT!

Autohaus Derp > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:03

WTF is that doing on the Jalopnik front page?

For Sweden > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
12/10/2015 at 17:04

I want to come to this BBQ

HammerheadFistpunch > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
12/10/2015 at 17:04

Thing is, I’m 90% confident Alissa Walker knows this. I’m also 100% confident she knows it will be a shitstorm of epic clicks.

HammerheadFistpunch > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
12/10/2015 at 17:04

No no no, its so EASY...we walk everywhere...

HammerheadFistpunch > Autohaus Derp
12/10/2015 at 17:05

Gawker loves them some clicks.

scoob > Autohaus Derp
12/10/2015 at 17:06

So we can all go over there and bitch about it, of course.

Mercedes Streeter > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:06

Hot damn, I love when privileged city folk forget that the rest of the world doesn’t even come remotely close to working how they think it does.

MultiplaOrgasms > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:07

Quick, post grounded to the ground Toyota 4x4s to counter the stupidity of city people who completely lost all sense of reasonability.

Kinja'd!!!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:07

Just trying to understand Patrick’s motives for sharing to Jalopnik:

1. He just wants some good, friendly discussion.

2. He wants these two parties to go to war in the comment section.

3. Profit! No really, he wants to profit in some way by the clicks that will no doubt be generated with such a share.

4. If he, individually, does not profit from the clicks since it’s a share, he’s hoping Alissa will return the favor at some point.

5. Some of the above.

6. All of the above, less and except #5.

Patrick - feel free to chime in with the correct answer!

BorkBorkBjork > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:08

Read it, almost commented on it, then miraculously came to my senses before hitting the ‘publish’ button. Close one

HammerheadFistpunch > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/10/2015 at 17:10

Patrick is employed by gawker media.

I mean its related to cars and we should be open to all perspectives but at the end of the day I suspect that its because its in a categories of articles that increase viewership and generate comments that other sites are “strongly encouraged” to share.

Mister Win Blames People, Not Guns > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:12

My thing was, cars run off of efficient fuels too! Why not just ban the petroleum and coal that pollutes, run the cars on algae or veggie oil or alcohol, convert the world to solar wind and water power and reap the benefits?

AkursedX > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:13

I remember when I used to be young and idealistic. Ha-ha.

As much as I love my cars, I do know that eventually they will be gone. But probably not in mine or my children’s lifetime. Especially in urban areas. Commutes in large areas are already terrible and will only get worse as population density increases. Something will give.

But with more and more investment in solar/wind/hydro electricity, and autonomous cars, you will see the banning of internal combustion and self-driving cars long before a total ban on cars.

AkursedX > BorkBorkBjork
12/10/2015 at 17:14

The same for me.

uofime-2 > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:14

Sharing that on Jalopnik was a pure troll move, not even a good troll because it was so obvious.

No Gawker I will not give you clicks.

HammerheadFistpunch > uofime-2
12/10/2015 at 17:15

I wouldn’t classify it as maliciously as a troll move, I would call it a workplace requirement.

HammerheadFistpunch > AkursedX
12/10/2015 at 17:15

Buy your Red Barchetta’s now folks.

RallyWrench > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:18

This shit...

http://gizmodo.com/las-revamped-a…

450X_FTW > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:18

Yeah I read the first few sentences and just stopped, couldn’t go any further. If you want to reduce vehicle pollution, give us a train system like Germany (I only reference Germany because I go there for work and am AMAZED how great it is every time I’m there)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:18

Yeah, there’s a car in the picture and everything. And I guess I should look at this share as “hey Jalops, read what this lady said about cars” and not “I approve of this message”, but the story is just there, under the Jalopnik banner. Maybe it’d be easier to digest if he’d written a few lines with his take on what she wrote along with the link to her post.

uofime-2 > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:20

I wouldn’t even be surprised in PG didn’t do it himself. What I meant is that it is nothing but a troll post, put anti-cars comment on car forum, doens’t get much more troll than that.

HammerheadFistpunch > RallyWrench
12/10/2015 at 17:21

Alissa walker has:

1. clearly been assigned the “talk shit about cars” beat

2. been blocked by my Gawker authors blocker plugin as of today

She joins such names as

Kinja!

Jalopnik eBook

Casey Chan

HammerheadFistpunch > uofime-2
12/10/2015 at 17:22

I’m just trying to say that his job is more nuanced that make us happy.

Patrick George > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/10/2015 at 17:22

I actually helped Alissa with some of the points in her story! Yes, the headline is incendiary (it’s what we do!) but her story is addressing, primarily, the need to reduce car use in urban areas. And she’s right.

That’s something we’ve covered on Jalopnik before and has actually been well-received by many of you readers. Look at the comments on that story. Paris is doing this. So is London. I think even if you love cars, as I do, you think traffic congestion is the worst and you see the need to reduce air emissions.

I suggested Alissa add more about the areas of the country that are dependent on cars, like where I live. And she did: check the paragraph that starts with “And if you don’t live in a city—or don’t want to—banning cars benefits you, too...”

So yes, it may seem radical, but what she’s saying is in line with stuff Jalopnik has been saying for years as well : tamping down on urban congestion and commuter culture frees up space for people who want to drive, like us. And I think we can all agree we want a more sustainable future with better air quality. I know I do.

I guess as for the main reason I shared it, it’s #1. Look, do you want a Jalopnik that only exists to reaffirm your existing beliefs, or do you want one that challenges the way you think and introduces new ideas? I know which one I want.

not for canada - australian in disguise > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:24

I’m probably one of the most left-leaning people on here politically, but HOLY SHIT is this woman off her rocker.

Climate change is real, yes, but banning cars isn’t gonna do shit. Cars cause a tiny amount of pollution compared to the oil and gas industry, the shipping industry, and the way we produce our power. Invest in infrastructure for clean energy, and invest in more infrastructure for electric cars to be more viable, instead of screwing over a good portion of North America. People bring up how this would screw over people in the rural USA, I can’t even imagine how much rural Canada would be fucked over. Our population is far less dense, and cities are hours between each other. Yeah, I’m just gonna take the expensive as hell Via train or take a coach.

The part that gets me the absolute MOST, is the fact that she’s saying that EVs aren’t viable because of the way the power is produced, yet she’s still advocating public transport systems, which would STILL use electricity, usually generated from the same place.

Brickman > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:27

I’d totally drive an electric car to work. If it was affordable and didn’t look like something out of a reject pile. Tesla is too expensive for us country folks. Keep the rollin coal for the weekends and hauling lumber.

I’d drive my golf cart if it went faster than 15 mph :P

HammerheadFistpunch > Patrick George
12/10/2015 at 17:28

I respect that point of view, and I like to hear the other side of the story but I can’t take Alissa even remotely seriously. Not only is the article so far out into let field as to be funny, its not balanced in the least. I guess my counterpoint would be that while its great to hear both sides of the story, a story clearly written to flame is just a story clearly written to flame.

duurtlang > Patrick George
12/10/2015 at 17:28

I agree with how you describe the problem. My city has a car-free center, and I’m glad it does. Everyone wins (here). However, Alissa takes it too far. Way too far. It’s so extreme it’s not a conversation piece, it’s a facepalm piece.

uofime-2 > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:29

Yea I get that, I don’t especially blame him. However I’m not sure how long I’d want to hang around a job that required that.

Kinda makes you wonder...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Patrick George
12/10/2015 at 17:38

Thanks for the response. I was betting on #1, fwiw.

“...more efficient transportation systems will make it easier to get where you need to go and reduce the overall costs of goods and services brought to your door. If you need a vehicle out where you live, you can simply borrow one from a local zero-emission fleet.”

New ideas are great, but ideas based on some kind of possible future reality are better. There are many, many places in the U.S. and elsewhere where putting in better public transportation makes no sense based on the cost versus the number of people it would serve, and borrowing a car from a fleet when I need one seems like the furthest thing from our “Drive Free...” mantra I can think of.

Alissa’s talking about transportation, but as you know, cars are much more than that to Jalops and Opponauts. If we only cared about safe, reliable transportation, 90% of us wouldn’t own the cars that we do. It’s the pursuit of happiness, dammit, and for many the freedom of expression as well as the freedom to pick up at any instant we choose and travel to any locale where a road may take us (and roads aren’t required for some)!

Cars are a [fantastic] old idea from the past. They will evolve, and change, but let’s hope they never go away.

davedave1111 > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:44

It’s not click-bait at all. It’s racist propaganda. Although I guess you could argue that Gawker’s frequent racist propaganda is just there because it attracts clicks, rather than because they actually hold racist views, in which case I guess it might just about qualify.

The fact is, Gawker’s stance on climate change is flat-out rejection of the scientific consensus in favour of what the IPCC has stated is racist, genocidal pseudoscience.

Montalvo > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:50

It is fine for those people to have that opinion no matter how wrong it may be but I refuse to take any writer seriously when they use the word “like” as it was in the article.

“Like there is no clean coal, there is no clean car .”

Like OMG there’s like a bazillion ways the world would be saved and like everyone would be free from all conflict...

(FACE DESK)

Kinja'd!!!

El Rivinado > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 17:52

I won’t read this article, but judging from the title I believe this story was written by someone who

A: Falls on the far political left

B: Is living in a fantasy bubble

C: Is talking about this like her naive fantasy vision of the subject will somehow fix this one particular problem like it was nothing.

Stop me or correct me if I’m wrong in anyway, but I don't think I am.

HammerheadFistpunch > El Rivinado
12/10/2015 at 17:55

Ayup

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/10/2015 at 18:00

Well... Justin Westbrook just shared it to Oppo :/

Kinja'd!!!

Trunk Impaired 318 > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 18:02

This is what happens when stupid people look at statistics.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 19:20

Interesting, I read through some of her articles. This woman is a tad bit too idealistic to be taken seriously. And she doesn’t just think cars need a better alternative: she absolutely hates them.

Who wants to go drag-racing in front of her papier-mâché house?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Patrick George
12/10/2015 at 19:22

Indeed. But then you click on stories like this and think, “wow, she really hates cars! Not just is indifferent; hates”.

911e46z06 > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 22:03

I read the whole thing to see if it was as retarded as the title led me to believe it would be. It was.

Patrick George > HammerheadFistpunch
12/10/2015 at 22:07

I wish it were that simple!

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > HammerheadFistpunch
12/11/2015 at 08:07

*Looks at author*

Yup, sounds about right.

artiofab > Patrick George
12/11/2015 at 10:26

This comment of yours is Good Kinja.