"Steve in Manhattan" (blogenfreude01)
11/29/2015 at 17:00 • Filed to: None
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"Steve in Manhattan" (blogenfreude01)
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Can he say that on National Geographic?
Xyl0c41n3
> Steve in Manhattan
11/29/2015 at 17:19 |
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I think I love him even more now. And he's totally correct. Enterprise alllllll day long!
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Steve in Manhattan
> Xyl0c41n3
11/29/2015 at 18:25 |
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Exactly. I want something with shields. And photon torpedoes. And a holodeck, so I can finally have that discussion with Lizzy Caplan without that restraining order being invoked.
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Xyl0c41n3
> Steve in Manhattan
11/29/2015 at 18:44 |
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Yeah, I was totally with you on your comment up until the point you dove into the creepy realm. TNG already explored a similar scenario to the one you’re describing with the episode “Booby Trap” wherein Geordie has a creepy pseudo-relationship with a holodeck representation of one of his professional idols and Enterprise designer, Dr. Brahms.
It was creepy as a bit of ill-written sci-fi fantasy then, and it’s creepy now.
http://angriest.blogspot.com/2014/09/star-t…
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Steve in Manhattan
> Xyl0c41n3
11/29/2015 at 19:16 |
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I remember that TNG episode, hence the joke. And the real life scientist got pretty pissed off when she found out. So the lesson is - what happens on the holodeck should stay on the holodeck.
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Xyl0c41n3
> Steve in Manhattan
11/29/2015 at 19:34 |
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She got offended because it was a gross violation of her privacy and identity. The lesson isn’t that what happens on the Holodeck should stay on the Holodeck, the lesson is don’t be a creep who objectifies women.
It’s all the more an egregious violation because of her professional status. Geordie LaForge, one of TNG’s most sensitive, thoughtful characters, one of Data’s biggest shepherds in his search for his humanity, is, in Booby Trap, reduced to the same mouthbreathing neanderthal stereotype of man as a mindless conveyance for testosterone.
Do you know how often that kind of shit (the objectification of women professionals by their professional equals or subordinates) happens in real life? The answer is a whole fucking lot.
Want examples?
There was the time a colleague who held the same title as me snapped my bra. Then there was the time a subordinate asked me my cup size. Or the time a married colleague stared at my chest while I was in the company break room trying to eat lunch, telling me my breasts were dangerous and would get me in trouble because he couldn’t stop being distracted by them.
Those are just a couple of examples that came to mind just now. I could keep going. I could list things that have happened to other women that I have either witnessed myself or have been told about by those women. I have yet to meet a woman who hasn’t experienced it on multiple occasions.
So yeah, the lesson isn’t some boys-will-be-boys “what happens on the Holodeck should stay on the Holodeck,” the lesson is grow up and treat women like people. Because we are.
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Steve in Manhattan
> Xyl0c41n3
11/29/2015 at 19:42 |
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Well, I was joking, not serious. But as far as that goes, I hear you. I remember a girl’s bra getting snapped in the 6th grade - a couple of us cornered the guy at recess and tried to school him. Didn’t work.
Don’t get me wrong - my behavior hasn’t always been exemplary. I have been told more than once that something I said wasn’t appropriate. I’d like to think I’ve learned something. But maybe not so much ....