My brother is buying a Holden Commodore wagon, AMA

"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12) 11/23/2015 at 20:12 • Filed to: COMMODORE

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It’ll be a VE like the one below. Probably not an SS or a V8, possibly in black.

It should be pretty nice, the VE were a good look that got muddied up a bit with the later VF. He’s wanted this for a long time, and he lives with me so I should be able to get some pics/experiences onto Oppo!

Ps. My father has a Ford Territory and Ranger, I don’t think either of those were sold stateside either, and that makes them cool right? Right?

Cherry_man1 > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 20:14

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The hell is a Ford Territory?

Speed > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 20:15

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I wish we got all of the variants here in the States. I’d be really interested in a UTE.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Cherry_man1 11/23/2015 at 20:18

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Apparently this is one:

Nauraushaun > Cherry_man1 11/23/2015 at 20:18

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Google it :) It’s an SUV built off the local Ford Falcon. I think they wanted to cash in on the SUV trend, and it worked to an extent, but the Falcon is on its last legs regardless.

Nauraushaun > Speed 11/23/2015 at 20:19

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Don’t you mean Holdenamino?

That “-amino” thing kills me. They’re utes, darnit. They were utes here long before they were El Caminos over there.

Cherry_man1 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/23/2015 at 20:31

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That looks like the Ford Freestyle!

Cherry_man1 > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 20:31

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I wonder what it would take to get a Falcon to the US.....

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Cherry_man1 11/23/2015 at 20:31

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Also known as the Taurus X

not for canada - australian in disguise > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 20:37

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Will it do a burnout?

Nauraushaun > Cherry_man1 11/23/2015 at 20:39

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It does a little. The newer one looks a lot like the global Ford EcoSport, though I think ours came out earlier. My dad’s is a brown diesel...it’s actually fairly Jalop come to think about it. I think it’s RWD also.

Nauraushaun > Cherry_man1 11/23/2015 at 20:39

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I’d have to assume it’s covered by the 25 year rule, right?

Nauraushaun > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/23/2015 at 20:42

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That does look sort of similar! Same concept I guess, a car-based SUV. Except in our case the car is RWD and can come with a V8. Not sure if the Territory got that, but it did have a turbo for a little while.

Nauraushaun > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/23/2015 at 20:42

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Yep, that’s an earlier one. My father has the second generation.

Nauraushaun > not for canada - australian in disguise 11/23/2015 at 20:48

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It will once I get a hold of it.

John Norris (AngryDrifter) > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 21:08

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OPPOsaurus WRX > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 21:12

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my least favorite part of my WRX was that it was black. so if the territory was made off the falcon did they ever make a territory in this trim?

Cherry_man1 > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 21:20

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More then likely. How much is a 1973 XB Falcon down there?

Nauraushaun > John Norris (AngryDrifter) 11/23/2015 at 21:26

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I’ll make sure he gets a set of pink white-walled stockies for the rear #straya

Nauraushaun > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/23/2015 at 21:28

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I think this is about as gaudy as it got unfortunately

Nauraushaun > Cherry_man1 11/23/2015 at 21:29

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See for yourself.

Not cheap, for a good one. But the XB isn’t the most expensive there.

Cherry_man1 > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 21:34

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So for 35k.....I could ahve a XB fastback w/351C......

Nauraushaun > Cherry_man1 11/23/2015 at 21:36

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Yes, for more than a year’s minimum wage you could have a thirsty old sedan that’s slower than your average Golf ;)

Cherry_man1 > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 21:44

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Well it’s can’t be slower then this.

My Gran Torino can out run a Golf.

Your boy, BJR > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 21:57

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Why not a ute?

jvirgs drives a Subaru > Cherry_man1 11/23/2015 at 22:02

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Here is your Ford Falcon

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 22:13

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Even though it’s probably not the SS or a V8, will you still try for a burnout?

Cherry_man1 > jvirgs drives a Subaru 11/23/2015 at 22:22

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KILL IT WITH FIRE

Hot Takes Salesman > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 22:53

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Can you Australians sell some Utes and wagons in the US, just V8’s, as enthusiast specials? I mean, the Chevy SS can’t sell cuz Chevy doesn’t market it or make it seem special, but if a few hundred batshit crazy, 550hp cars came over, then enthusiasts, like Polestar buyers, would eat them up, right?

Tohru > Nauraushaun 11/23/2015 at 23:37

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Will it two-step?

Nauraushaun > Cherry_man1 11/24/2015 at 00:43

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I’m sure there are Golfs that can outrun your Gran Torino too.

But I do understand that the appeal of old cars isn’t necessarily in their performance.

Nauraushaun > Tohru 11/24/2015 at 00:44

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Will it punch a kangaroo while skulling a slab of VB?

Nauraushaun > Nauraushaun 11/24/2015 at 00:44

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Yes to both

Nauraushaun > Hot Takes Salesman 11/24/2015 at 00:45

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I can see no reason not to. They might get ruled out by the chicken tax though, because land of the free

Nauraushaun > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 11/24/2015 at 00:46

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You’re not the first one to ask me this. And yes, of course. I did a burnout in the last Commodore he had, that was considerably less powerful.

If nothing else it’ll be hekkers in the wet I’m sure.

Nauraushaun > Nauraushaun 11/24/2015 at 00:46

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If he asks, I didn’t do a burnout in the last one he had.

Cherry_man1 > Nauraushaun 11/24/2015 at 00:50

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Ya, but just replacing the top end of the car to the tune of ~$3500 USD I can get 400HP

Nauraushaun > Your boy, BJR 11/24/2015 at 01:09

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Utes are less practical than a wagon and with less seats. They’re bought by a certain sort of person: hoons, tradies mostly. My brother likes the look of the sportwagon, and it’s a bit more in every way than his Focus.

Nauraushaun > jvirgs drives a Subaru 11/24/2015 at 01:18

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Is that a Falcon or Mondeo? Can never tell these days. They’re very different cars underneath, but only underneath.

Cé hé sin > Nauraushaun 11/24/2015 at 05:12

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Wonders about Australian English:

Tradies

Hekkers

Nauraushaun > Cé hé sin 11/24/2015 at 05:28

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I had a tradie at my house this morning. He actually identified as a “sparkie”. They do it to themselves!

realikesea > Nauraushaun 11/24/2015 at 06:06

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Is he starting a family or becoming a tradie? Why on earth would he want a wagon?

No no! He decided to become a roadie. Only people who carry lots of stuff need wagons.

Tohru > Nauraushaun 11/24/2015 at 12:36

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Nah mate, 4X. Because VB is piss.

Dru > Nauraushaun 11/24/2015 at 15:51

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I like the word ute used to describe anything with a bed. (Wait am I correct in that understanding?)

Here in ‘Merca we would probably use the word pickup as you use ute.

El Camino is just Spanish for “the road,” but people either love the El Camino or hate it. I am of the former category. So Holdenamino would be a term of endearment as far as I'm concerned.

Nauraushaun > Dru 11/24/2015 at 17:21

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We tend to use the word pickup for anything bigger than a ute. It’s not completely clear-cut, but “ute” tends to be just those that are derived from cars.

A Hilux is a pickup, for example.

Nothing is a truck. We don’t do truck. Only semi-trucks are trucks.

Nauraushaun > realikesea 11/24/2015 at 17:25

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You could say that. Or you could say a sedan is like a wagon with less space and no upsides. He’s no tradie or family, he’s just stepping up from the Focus hatch to something a bit bigger, bolder and manlier.

realikesea > Nauraushaun 11/24/2015 at 21:04

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Purely ego. Got it ;)

Dru > Nauraushaun 11/25/2015 at 08:14

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That makes more sense.

Our use of the word truck probably comes from the DOT designation of Light-Truck, aka, anything used to commute to an office job but capable to hauling a load of mulch on the weekend.

Then middle weight trucks are like large moving trucks/box trucks, and of course semi's are heavy duty trucks.

Nauraushaun > Dru 11/25/2015 at 15:41

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I always thought it was a bragging thing. That it was about having the biggest, silliest thing on the roads and telling everyone it was a truck to enforce that idea.

Dru > Nauraushaun 11/25/2015 at 15:56

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I mean there is a certain weight carried in saying that you drive a truck, but it is not something you brag about because it will inevitably involve helping someone move.

Sure there is a subculture that values having the biggest most obnoxious truck. I recently rode in a Ram 2500 diesel that had a 6” lift with 37” tires. I am only 5’7” and that thing was nothing short of a challenge to get in and out of.

Most full size trucks (a HiLux would be a midsize I guess in our market) are tall enough in factory form that a short person like myself is content with standard ride height, maybe even a 2” leveling kit to get rid of the rear biased rake.

But to be sure, "bro culture" has given us these silly oversized pickup trucks you are thinking of. Got to have the biggest around and what not.