faces are hard. subtitle: fallout 4 problems.

"Frank Grimes" (FrankGrimes) 11/12/2015 at 15:23 • Filed to: None

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Started fallout 4 last night.

Between installing and spending too much time trying to make my character look like me and failing twice I managed to get out of the vault before calling it quits. I think I will just start a new game and see if I can’t recreate this beautiful creation of nature I call my face.

djmt1 > Frank Grimes 11/12/2015 at 15:36

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A few hours in and problems like that will seem trivial.

#gamebreakingbugs

LuczOr > Frank Grimes 11/12/2015 at 16:20

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NAILED IT.

TheJMan92 > Frank Grimes 11/12/2015 at 16:36

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I’m about 6 hours in now, I’ve encountered a few bugs but they’ve been harmless. So far I’ve got:

AI pathing issues

People disappearing and re-appearing (maybe that’s Bethesdas’ solution to the pathing issues? Or just classic Bethesda)

Sound lag/cut issues if I go out to PS4 home screen and come back to game

Pre-patch there was an issue with the “favorite wheel” thing for weapons, think that’s fixed now.

But honestly, nothing game breaking has ocured yet and the game is good enough that the small things don’t bother me. I mean, this is Bethesda, the glitches are half the fun.

I’m curious, what do other oppos think of the game and what bugs have you guys & gals encountered?

wiffleballtony > Frank Grimes 11/12/2015 at 16:55

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Have you got to the portion where they want you to build settlements? Heh.

wiffleballtony > TheJMan92 11/12/2015 at 16:57

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I’ve only played an hour or so. So far I’ve found it amazing and confusing all at once. Feels like a lot has changed from New Vegas in the control scheme and game play.

TheJMan92 > wiffleballtony 11/12/2015 at 17:16

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I concur! The general experience is good so far, but some of the controls are a bit wonky to learn.

I keep forgetting I have a can melee with guns, I often forget I can switch weapons with the favorites thing (though it’s more advantageous to pick form the pip-boy anyway, stops time and all), and I’d even forgotten about V.A.T.S until I accidentally hit it whilst forgetting every button in a surprise encounter.

I’m digging the construction stuff though, creating a little town is kind of fun and the weapon/armor modifications are amazing thus far.

wiffleballtony > TheJMan92 11/12/2015 at 17:22

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The settlement portion I find extremely confusing. I have no idea what items contain what resources. Most of it doesn’t make sense. A bathroom sink doesn’t have copper despite the visible piping? Computer and television monitors don’t contain circuits? Then there’s the power, how am I supposed to know what connectors I need or pylons, so confused. How am I supposed to assign people to posts? They really should have made a tutorial for that.

Montalvo > Frank Grimes 11/12/2015 at 17:30

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Grab a photo of your self and just focus on one aspect at a time. Duplicating things is a lot easier when you have what you want and what you have to work with side by side.

Montalvo > TheJMan92 11/12/2015 at 17:36

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There are quite a few on PC some which are game breaking so nothing new there. For whatever reason entering a termnial will frame rate lock your game which can cause you to get stuck and then not be able to do anything. Audio is desynced with increasing regularity. I had one occasion where I teleported back to where I was 30 seconds ago like lag in a multiplayer game. There is probably a lot more just waiting for me but Bethesda’s games are notoriously buggy and when they get patched and the mods come out the game will run silky smooth.

SLK > TheJMan92 11/12/2015 at 17:48

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I took two days off to play it through and beat it. Lots of small texture glitches, the companions have gotten better at moving around (they can jump down things now). The graphics are excellent and the weapon crafting and perk systems are crazy deep and very interesting. The campaign also has greatly improved in terms of scope and length over the previous two most recent titles. I r8 8 out of 8 m8

Jayhawk Jake > TheJMan92 11/12/2015 at 18:00

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I haven't encountered any noticeable bugs. I'm sure there are some, but the game is amazing so I haven't noticed them.

Jayhawk Jake > wiffleballtony 11/12/2015 at 18:03

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The controls feel mostly the same to me, they just added the melee with guns and changed the hotkey system. I keep forgetting to assign my perks when I level up and to actually use the new critical system.

It definitely is a bit overwhelming at first, and even after 10 hours. I have about 15 open quests and the city is so dense I keep getting more and more.

wiffleballtony > Jayhawk Jake 11/12/2015 at 18:44

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VATS used to be V now it’s Q. V is like 3rd person now. So whenever I want to go to VATS I accidentally change my perspective lol.

Frank Grimes > Montalvo 11/12/2015 at 19:10

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I will be doing this. Trying to remember what I look like is surprisingly hard.

Frank Grimes > LuczOr 11/12/2015 at 19:11

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he must be rich.

Frank Grimes > TheJMan92 11/12/2015 at 19:18

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I really like it. Of course haven’t really done anything yet but I love the graphics and style of it.

I dont understand why people complain about the graphics. Maybe cuz nerds with super computers? I dont know what it is but I think maybe just how far I can see in the game makes it feel much more real. instead of walking into a blurry landscape and trees and crap suddenly pop up.

The music is great. One thing I dont like is the popups game tips I think I might have missed a few because I was focused on the dialog or action of the game and missed the green box. I dont even know how to use vats.

Jayhawk Jake > wiffleballtony 11/12/2015 at 22:10

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Ah, I play on Xbone and I played 3 with an Xbox controller, it's not too different

wiffleballtony > Jayhawk Jake 11/12/2015 at 23:39

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That explains it.

LuczOr > Frank Grimes 11/13/2015 at 11:22

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He would need Warren Buffett levels of net worth.

TheJMan92 > Frank Grimes 11/13/2015 at 11:42

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I hadn’t really thought about it but now that you mention it, the graphics are pretty good on the PS4. I’ll end up playing it on PC at some point, and the graphics will definitely be better, but I haven’t thought “wow, these graphics suck” on the PS4 version. The draw distance is good and I haven’t really had that “bam, there’s a building here” experience, as you noted. Good catch!

The popups can be a pain, they either don’t stay long enough for me to notice/read them or they keep nagging me about stuff I know. I get that they didn’t want to stop the gameplay for a dialog window or something, but that might have worked better here, especially with building stuff.

TheJMan92 > Jayhawk Jake 11/13/2015 at 11:44

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I’ve been avoiding Diamond city because I can’t imagine the side quests I’ll pick up. I haven’t even looked into the critical system any more than “oh cool, I got a critical hit”, seems I’ve got some research to do!

TheJMan92 > wiffleballtony 11/13/2015 at 11:45

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This is good to know, I’ll be playing on PC eventually (I always go console first for some reason) and the control changes are going to trip me up a bit.

TheJMan92 > SLK 11/13/2015 at 11:48

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I thought about taking some days off, but my SO may be a bit less than understanding. Only two days? I’m nowhere near that focused, I’m 6.5 hours in and just finally cleared the Corvega factory. I took Codsworth as my companion on that, wrong choice as he apparently cannot sneak.

TheJMan92 > wiffleballtony 11/13/2015 at 11:53

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I wish they had a tutorial for this stuff as well, they have the tips pop up but their either gone to fast or overbearing in how much they pop up. Some of the junk you break down doesn’t really make sense as you noted, I feel like they could have polished that a bit more. That’s what mods are for!

I haven’t messed with pylons yet, so I assumed you just run wires for everything. Assigning people is weird, sometimes they assign themselves. If you enter construction mode (or whatever it’s called) you can select people, they highlight whatever you want them to work on and hit X (or your equivalent, I’m on PS4) to assign them. I noticed it doesn’t always work, sometimes it lags a bit before actually assigning so I end up picking up the object I was trying to assign to.

One neat thing they did is that for farming you don’t need to assign a person to each plant, you can assign a person to one plant and they’ll automatically cover up to 6 food things.

TheJMan92 > Montalvo 11/13/2015 at 11:55

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Oh yea, Bethesda games are one large bug. I usually pick up the console version first as they seem to work better out of the box. After a few months though, and especially with mods, the PC game ends up more stable and much prettier/more fun.

SLK > TheJMan92 11/13/2015 at 12:18

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Neither codsworth or dog meat can sneak, my companions kept getting me killed, now I just clomp around in power armour everywhere I go!

Jayhawk Jake > TheJMan92 11/13/2015 at 12:47

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I have too many sidequests, but the main storyline is really good so I’ve mostly stuck to it.

There’s an ‘Execute Critical’ function. I believe the way it works is you charge up your critical as you fight and you can chose to get a critical hit in VATS. I always forget it’s there.

TheJMan92 > SLK 11/13/2015 at 13:08

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Guess I’ll be taking MinuteMan dude with me from now on. My town don’t need no defenses!

TheJMan92 > Jayhawk Jake 11/13/2015 at 13:09

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Ah, that’s the problem. I consistently forget to use VATS, really would help for large cluster bandit fights.

SLK > TheJMan92 11/13/2015 at 14:10

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I wont spoil anything, but youll run in to a character named nick valentine. I used him for a majority of the game, hes pretty tough and can carry an entire spare suit of power armor.

TheJMan92 > SLK 11/13/2015 at 14:44

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Oh good, if it’s story related it will only take me about 20 hours to get there!

SLK > TheJMan92 11/13/2015 at 16:01

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It took me roughly sixteen hours to do the whole story line, but of course your mileage may vary depending on your level of dicking around haha

Frank Grimes > TheJMan92 11/13/2015 at 16:37

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Yes draw distance I forgot that term. I am playing on the xbox one and love it. I like how some games incorporate a training period but do so naturally. I am thinking of halo where its under the ploy that the suit needs calibration. Of course fallout is such a different game not sure I have the answer as to how it could be done. Or just as you said makethe popups last longer or something.

Frank Grimes > Frank Grimes 11/13/2015 at 16:50

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TheJMan92 > SLK 11/13/2015 at 17:19

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I wander excessively. I’m my near 7 hours so far I’ve finished 4 quests.

wiffleballtony > TheJMan92 11/13/2015 at 18:01

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It’ll get some getting used to. Probably an hour or so.

TheJMan92 > wiffleballtony 11/16/2015 at 11:01

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I just realized there is an in-game help section. Completely missed that before!

wiffleballtony > TheJMan92 11/16/2015 at 11:12

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Is there really, I will have to check that out.