Would you buy something like this? 

"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat) 11/11/2015 at 08:41 • Filed to: None

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The Renault Oroch, based on the Duster and available with boring 2.o and 1.6 engines, manual gearbox and only FWD.

duurtlang > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 08:46

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No. But I wouldn’t buy any kind of pickup truck. If I need a bed, I’ll get a trailer.

My citroen won't start > duurtlang 11/11/2015 at 08:50

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Me neither, but I found it weird that Renault released it, there is no market for it

Hermann > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 08:55

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Something I’m not really understanding about this car. Renault and Fiat are laying foundation for a new segment? Will it be placed between the Compact trucklets like the Saveiro/Strada/Montana and the Light Trucks like the S10/Ranger...? I wasn’t even aware there was a market for this.

And that interior. *shudders*

I’m absolutely certain these things will sell like crazy, though.

My citroen won't start > Hermann 11/11/2015 at 08:57

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It’s exactly what I was thinking, there is no market for it, who would want that?

Nibby > duurtlang 11/11/2015 at 08:58

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You need this.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 08:58

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Nope. I think it’s a continental thing. If I need to carry anything, we’ve got a small 1-ton trailer to do that with.

Oh, we’re also building a 1350kg car trailer/flatbed from the chassis of an abandoned caravan we found on the side of the road so we'll have that too!

It does strike me that it would fulfil all of the genuine pickup needs of the majority of the American public though (apart from size and brashness).

Vimto > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 08:58

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I would, it seems smaller and more efficient than a “real” truck, but I wouldn’t have to modify it to carry my bikes/kayak/surfboard/etc. like I have with all my cars (tow hitch, aftermarket roof rack, etc...)

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:00

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I’d totally buy a tiny little trucklet like this if someone sold it in the US.

Alfalfa > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:02

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Cheap, fuel efficient, for doors, and a bed? I would consider it. Not bad looking, either.

Scott > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:10

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Definitely mixed emotions. I love Renaults, so tempted to say yes... right up to the moment I saw it had a typical Renault motor. Fine in typical small Renault cars... harder to judge in this. The Manual gear box is a big plus, Nissan, look you can build an SUV/Truck with a manual, go talk to your French masters.

Personally this is NOT a truck, a truck needs a separate bed, and body on frame construction. This is really an SUV with a cargo bed area. In that regard a small motor is not so bad, many SUVs have small motors. Also since it will definitely not make it to the US it will not get fat on a heavy on a corn syrup safety diet. While personally I’d love to see a larger motor option it may not be such an issue for most buyers. I'm left nervous in this regard but maybe.

I’m really curious if Renault borrowed any, experience or parts from Nissan. If not I think they should be given a sharp smack up side the head for ignoring a resource that clearly has much more experience in this kind of vehicle.

I guess to give an answer, I'll let you know after I test drive it... probably in Spain, but need to try it out in Germany as well.

Party-vi > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:10

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It’s a crossover with the rear roof cut off. No thanks.

Scott > duurtlang 11/11/2015 at 09:12

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OK, except this is clearly NOT a pickup truck... so would you buy it or not.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:12

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Possibly. I had a VW diesel pickup, FWD only, with a 1.6 45hp diesel for several years.

Hermann > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:12

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Technically no one.

But you know our market well enough. People are just going to buy them as status symbols as usual and live with it, pretending it was a good choice.

It’s going to be the EcoSport phenomenon we had back in 2005 when people started inventing reasons to justify this type of vehicle because it looked cool, even though it handles like a walmart cart with a loose wheel, has the build quality of a preschool project and the cargo space of a bike.

davedave1111 > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:17

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Seems pointless to me, but I can see it selling like hotcakes in S America. Just wait, you’ll see one with ten people in the bed as well as all seats occupied.

Cé hé sin > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:22

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No

Patrick Nichols > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:26

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I’d buy it if it had AWD and either a 2.0-2.5 turbo subaru motor or a 2.0-3.0 vw tdi...

Yes I have always wanted a baja...

duurtlang > Scott 11/11/2015 at 09:30

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How is this thing not a pickup truck?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 11/11/2015 at 09:31

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My Mk1 Golf pickup fulfilled all my pickup truck needs sans towing more than a cargo trailer, but at the same time, it had a much longer bed than this. That’s the flaw I see here - I don’t see a midgate or other accommodation for longer items. Granted, it has an extra several seats, which would have been nice that time I drove to a Foo Fighters concert and made one of my two friends ride in the bed...

duurtlang > Nibby 11/11/2015 at 09:32

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A gas station? Probably, had I had a truck like that.

smobgirl > Patrick Nichols 11/11/2015 at 09:40

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That's what I was thinking.

Leon711 > duurtlang 11/11/2015 at 09:45

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But would you buy a Duster?

duurtlang > Leon711 11/11/2015 at 09:50

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No. I’m <65 years old and my hips aren’t worn out, so I don’t need/want a crossover.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:51

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I'd get neither, as I slightly believe in more space. Cactus all the way!

Brickman > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 09:55

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Would drive untill I saw FWD. Nope.

Opposite Locksmith > duurtlang 11/11/2015 at 09:57

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ma man

punkgoose17 > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 10:04

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If it can tow 3,000 lbs I’d buy one if I could afford it.

RazoE > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 10:04

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Would I? No. Does the US need it? Yes. You don’t need a giant bro truck to haul potting soil to your garden. Sometimes you need a little truck.

Vítor > My citroen won't start 11/11/2015 at 10:11

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The Oroch is going to do well with surfers and in beach cities. Hell, I live in a state that doesn`t even have beaches and in my city, Belo Horizonte, I see LOTS of VW Saveiros and FIATs Stradas.

Vítor > Hermann 11/11/2015 at 10:13

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Yes, but technically is two new markets, the FIAT Toro is bigger than the Renault, but still smaller than the S10, Ranger, Amarok...

Vítor > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 11/11/2015 at 10:18

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The slight bigger but smaller than a Chevy Colarodo FIAT Toro has big chances to be sold in America as a RAM Rampage

My citroen won't start > Vítor 11/11/2015 at 10:52

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In Sao Paulo I rarely see any pick-ups, and when I do, they are all from the countryside.

Scott > duurtlang 11/11/2015 at 11:09

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Pickup trucks have a separate bed from the cab, and are body on chassis. this is an SUV with an open cargo area.

duurtlang > RazoE 11/11/2015 at 11:24

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You don’t need a giant bro truck to haul potting soil to your garden. Sometimes you need a little truck trailer.

I believe I fixed it.

Hermann > Vítor 11/11/2015 at 12:10

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WHAT?! Seriously?!

I thought they’d be roughly the same size so they’d sit in the same market.

pip bip - choose Corrour > My citroen won't start 11/12/2015 at 04:24

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single cab , yes

double cab , no