Serious important question, guidance requested

Kinja'd!!! "wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
11/02/2015 at 18:56 • Filed to: None

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I will make this as quick and succinct as possible. My Pontiac G8 GT, 114k on the odometer, is in the process of eating its camshaft as a result of a faulty lifter on cylinder 7. As a result of the engine’s active fuel management the valve on cylinder 7 is sticking and possibly causing damage to the camshaft. The dealer is quoting a minimum cost of $3,400 is the cost for fixing the lifters, possibly this could balloon up to $4,700 if the camshaft is damaged in any way, which it probably is. I am not nearly skilled enough to attempt the fix myself, nor do I have a third car for this to be out of commission. The question becomes, do I pony up for an engine swap at a speed shop?

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Kinja'd!!! bob and john > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:01

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id trust a speed shop more then a dealer frankly


Kinja'd!!! camaroboy68ss > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:05

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I think the car would be down for the same amount of time to swap motors or just the cam. I'd look at doing a ls3 conversion. Get rid of that active fuel garbage. Those lifter are notoriously weak and your getting first hand experience. Plus you could hot cam or Asa cam swap it.


Kinja'd!!! Your boy, BJR > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:05

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Nah, have the dealer do it. Some have best trained staff anywhere, regardless of what oppo thinks, and as a bonus you should be able to get a free loaner.


Kinja'd!!! Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:06

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You can build a hell of a motor for $3,400


Kinja'd!!! PS9 > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:07

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$4k to repair a lifter? WTF...


Kinja'd!!! crowmolly > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:08

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Engine swap? What?

This should be priced like a cam swap IMO. $1000 for a factory replacement cam seems steep. It is a hydraulic roller, not a flat tappet so maybe you will be lucky.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > Your boy, BJR
11/02/2015 at 19:08

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I do have the loaner currently while it was diagnosed.


Kinja'd!!! Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Your boy, BJR
11/02/2015 at 19:10

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Usually that only applies if you have a warranty


Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:11

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LS9 swap yo


Kinja'd!!! Alex from Toronto > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:16

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Delete AFM, add a sportier camshaftand add regular lifters.

Mabye there’s some performance shops around that you could take it to.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > PS9
11/02/2015 at 19:20

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They want to replace all 8 lifters involved in the active fuel management. Obviously labor.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > Alex from Toronto
11/02/2015 at 19:21

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Thats a seriously good idea.


Kinja'd!!! Alex from Toronto > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:25

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I try :D


Kinja'd!!! GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 19:52

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Sounds like it's LS7 time...


Kinja'd!!! Your boy, BJR > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/02/2015 at 20:12

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Well OP has got a loaner.....soooo.....


Kinja'd!!! CaptDale - is secretly British > wiffleballtony
11/02/2015 at 20:18

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Well I work at a GM dealer, depending on where you are located, maybe I could help with parts. Feel free to email me dylan_sailing@hotmail.com


Kinja'd!!! TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > wiffleballtony
11/03/2015 at 00:20

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u can build a cheap ls engine for good power. im just starting my build at my local speed shop


Kinja'd!!! 04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > wiffleballtony
11/03/2015 at 11:24

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I agree with the general consensus here. It’s only an LS2, so charging almost $4,000 for a cam/lifter replacement is ridiculous. I’d either find some used LS2 heads and have someone slap them on, or bite the somewhat larger bullet and do a better cam/lifter replacement. You’d be surprised at how much a tune would remediate the slight loss in gas mileage (if any).


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > 04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches.
11/03/2015 at 12:48

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At this point I’m leaning towards a lifter replacement and a performance cam. I found a shop that’ll do it for a couple grand.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > camaroboy68ss
11/03/2015 at 12:49

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At this point I’m leaning towards a lifter replacement and a performance cam. I found a shop that’ll do it for a couple grand.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > Alex from Toronto
11/03/2015 at 12:49

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At this point I’m leaning towards a lifter replacement and a performance cam. I found a shop that’ll do it for a couple grand.


Kinja'd!!! 04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > wiffleballtony
11/03/2015 at 13:18

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Sounds like a good deal. Definitely the route I’d go myself. I assume it’s an automatic since it’s not a GXP, so the cam will likely go unnoticed until you want it to be. ;)


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > 04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches.
11/03/2015 at 13:24

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Yeah its an auto, it’s actually my wife’s daily driver.


Kinja'd!!! camaroboy68ss > wiffleballtony
11/03/2015 at 15:53

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Be prepared for some high numbers for prices. I was shocked at the quotes I got for can swapping my 98 SS camaro.

I’m counting down the days for my factory power train warranty to go on my 14 camaro ss so I can crack it open to cam swap and get rid of the displacement on demand lifters


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > camaroboy68ss
11/03/2015 at 16:08

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The quote I got for a swap was 2k on top of the engine. Or 2k or so to fix the lifters and swap out the cams.


Kinja'd!!! Speed > wiffleballtony
11/05/2015 at 12:43

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I’d browse LS1tech and see if there are any sponsors somewhat local to you. There are some top notch LSX shops on there that could offer some good advice.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > Speed
11/05/2015 at 12:57

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I’ll check that site out.


Kinja'd!!! Speed > wiffleballtony
11/05/2015 at 13:05

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It’s definitely worth a browse. Go to the actual forum and poke around. There are specific sub forums for various things, as well as region specific ones down towards the bottom. There’s not a bigger wealth of LSX knowledge in the world than that place.