Cheap Dieselgate VWs?

"31ModelA" (car) 10/20/2015 at 11:41 • Filed to: VW, dieselgate, car buying

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It turns out a friend is in need of a good cheap car and like a good opportunist I wondered, can one man’s trash be another woman’s treasure? In short, are there really cheap VW TDIs available like we hoped/prayed/feared there would be? If so, where’s the best place to look?

Perusing a handful of online outlets it would appear that Autobay, CarsTrader, and eMax are shilling TDIs like nothing ever happened. So If the Internet is repleat with filthy, noxious diesely price-point lies, what kind of prices are y’all really seeing for offending VWs?

yitznewton > 31ModelA 10/20/2015 at 11:45

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Well, the twits at a local Nissan dealership offered me $300 for my petrol Mk4 Jetta, which is neither diesel nor of the affected years, justifying it because Dieselgate. Make of it what you will... maybe they were just lowballing me. Trade seems like it should be $1200+

Nibby > 31ModelA 10/20/2015 at 11:45

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tree fiddy

bob and john > 31ModelA 10/20/2015 at 11:47

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there was about a 6-8% drop in prices...but nothing significant

PS9 > 31ModelA 10/20/2015 at 11:49

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It’s a bit too early in the scandal for that. Wait six months or so to see what reaction the market has to a bunch of TDIs that don’t perform as advertised.

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > bob and john 10/20/2015 at 11:52

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I’ve seen about the same, most people seem to be holding onto them until a definite plan emerges regarding the “fix” and how that impacts the registration of said vehicles.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > bob and john 10/20/2015 at 11:53

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I think its funny because people were all like “Its the end of the world! We’ll be able to get slightly used TDIs for $5k! WOOO!”

Its like they forgot about supply and demand... VW cant sell new (or used) TDIs, so potential buyers go used and keep the demand up.

Justin Hughes > 31ModelA 10/20/2015 at 11:57

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I looked, too, but I haven’t seen any deals worth going for.

Ash78, voting early and often > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 10/20/2015 at 11:57

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Bingo. These things will be unicorns soon. If I had the capital, I’d buy several on the temporary drop and watch prices rebound to +10% or +20% over historical market rates.

The cars are still solid, they’re just not as green as advertised. I see nothing there to affect the economics of the purchase to someone who can get away with not fixing it. Plenty of buyers still out there...

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Ash78, voting early and often 10/20/2015 at 12:02

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Exactly! 90% of buyers bought them for the gas mileage, not the eco friendliness Lol

They seriously do get great gas mileage though. I took a road trip of about 150 miles, set the cruise at 60, and when I Got to where I was going, I checked after filling up and found I had gotten 52.7 mpg! And this was with 235 width tires too! I can’t imagine how it would be with 205 (stock) eco tires

bob and john > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 10/20/2015 at 12:08

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if we were able to get 20k mile TDIs for 5k, let me tell you who parents would have bought 10 of them.....

bob and john > Ash78, voting early and often 10/20/2015 at 12:08

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plus how many of us tune and to hell with emissions?

Ash78, voting early and often > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 10/20/2015 at 12:10

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That’s the funny part — for many years I frequented Passatworld and TDIClub and I could count on one hand the total TDI owners who actually touted the “green cred” of their cars. Nobody was trying to fool themselves, we all knew particulate emissions and (pre-filter/urea models) NOx levels were nothing to brag about. It was all about fuel economy, performance mods, ecomods, tuning, and so on.

I think we have a disproportionate amount of greenies coming out of the woodwork on this scandal and making it all about raping the environment. VW’s own marketing of “clean diesel” doesn’t exactly help, it just adds fuel to the critics.

Come on people, they’re cars. They’re inherently selfish and polluting in almost every form.

I wonder if these haters have all installed catalytics converters on their lawn mowers...

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Ash78, voting early and often 10/20/2015 at 12:11

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These greenies need to sell their cars and buy a bike made From recycled materials :P

iSureWilll > 31ModelA 10/20/2015 at 12:12

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I have a dieselgate car and have been watching values pretty closely. I would say the drop is more realistically 10% in value at the moment when you look at used vehicle prices. 2010’s are going for around $11k-ish.

I wouldn't expect values to drop significantly. They'll go Back up a little bit once The fix is out.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > bob and john 10/20/2015 at 12:13

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Precisely lol

McMike > 31ModelA 10/20/2015 at 12:30

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I’ve suggested that DeMuro buy one.

Article about buying it cheap

Article about dyno numbers before recall.

Article about dyno numbers after recall.

Write 11 articles about the recall.

Write about the fuel mileage before and after the recall.

Write about how some stations do not have diesel.

Hope to get some hate note about pollution.

Try to sell it to CarMax.

Write about how it’s value has dropped.

ciscokidinsf > McMike 10/20/2015 at 15:56

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Its just so predictable, but he can’t get one from AutoMax... sketchy desperate BHPH dealer perhaps?