Only In Indiana

"iSureWilll" (isurewilll) 10/14/2015 at 11:11 • Filed to: None

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Only in Indiana would you find a convertible minivan with a motorcycle in the back being driven by a drunk guy... While also flying the confederate flag.

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JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > iSureWilll 10/14/2015 at 11:23

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I never realized Indiana was that close to Florida...

Maybe Thats why so many snowbirds are from there.

BigBlock440 > iSureWilll 10/14/2015 at 11:27

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Not a convertible minivan, the roof doesn’t go back up. It’s a roadster minivan.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > iSureWilll 10/14/2015 at 11:27

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Oh, I don’t know, sounds pretty Floridiotic to me...

Milky > iSureWilll 10/14/2015 at 11:32

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ONLY in Indiana? Ha! Probably related to the driver of this in Michigan.

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/today-on-woodw…

CalzoneGolem > BigBlock440 10/14/2015 at 11:36

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Exactly, get it right people!

Michael Cohen > BigBlock440 10/14/2015 at 11:38

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I thought that’s a speedster

Michael Cohen > iSureWilll 10/14/2015 at 11:39

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What’s with the confederate flags in Indiana? My wife is from there and when we go they’re everywhere.

BigBlock440 > Michael Cohen 10/14/2015 at 11:44

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Well, according to Wikipedia it’s a roadster utility . Both speedsters and roadsters are listed as 2 seaters. Though I guess minivan is enough of a qualifier to be it’s own category.

iSureWilll > Milky 10/14/2015 at 11:56

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Haha the one in Michigan looks like they did a better job at cutting the top off too. Probably cousins.

iSureWilll > Michael Cohen 10/14/2015 at 11:56

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She doesn’t happen to be from Martinsville, does she?

iSureWilll > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 10/14/2015 at 11:56

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I wonder if this guy is planning on moving to Florida soon?

iSureWilll > CalzoneGolem 10/14/2015 at 11:57

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My apologies. My grammar ain’t no good.

Michael Cohen > iSureWilll 10/14/2015 at 12:01

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no

Milky > iSureWilll 10/14/2015 at 12:16

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Probably cousins that bang.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Michael Cohen 10/14/2015 at 12:19

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Drives me absolutely insane. It’s a thing in Michigan somehow too.

Hey idiots - we’re one of the northernmost states in the country, and fought very aggressively against the south in the civil war.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > Michael Cohen 10/14/2015 at 12:22

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Fun fact...er...fun supposition. Well, it’s not really fun. Anyway, I grew up in the little town of Plymouth, Indiana, just 15 miles down the road from Culver, Indiana, reportedly the birthplace of the KKK.

Now, rural Indiana doesn’t feel that racist. I’ve definitely lived in more racist places. But apparently it’s alive and well.

davedave1111 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/14/2015 at 12:48

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A perfect demonstration that while it’s theoretically not necessarily racist motivations underpinning the flying of the Confederate flag, in practice it always is.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > davedave1111 10/14/2015 at 13:25

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My 16 year old brother in law (in michigan) was flying one.

He said it wasn’t racist, I told him to drive through a few specific neighborhoods with it flying if it’s not racist and see how well that goes.

He of course wouldn’t, but then he said it’s about “rebellion”.

I told him if he wanted to fly a rebel flag, put up a 13 star American Flag - at least that one had a winning record (despite, yes I know it was mostly used after the war was won)

davedave1111 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/14/2015 at 13:34

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Heh, I wasn’t being entirely serious. Only ninety-something percent. There are always uneducated kids out there who don’t really understand a thing.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > davedave1111 10/14/2015 at 14:21

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Oh, in my opinion it’s always racist. Not realizing it’s racist doesn’t make it less racist.

More importantly, fine, if people say it’s not racist, it’s at least treasonous.

davedave1111 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/14/2015 at 14:50

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“Not realizing it’s racist doesn’t make it less racist.”

I think there’s a difference between being racist and being, eh, prejudiced and ignorant of it, we might say. We all have our prejudices and blind spots, and it’s how we deal with them, whether we recognise them in ourselves and then whether we chose to embrace them or fight against them, that matters.

And then there’s the other kind of not-really-racism which is just rank ignorance. I have a Jewish friend who went on holiday to rural England as a boy and was asked by some local kids if he’d mind lifting up his skullcap to show them his horns. There was no malice on their part, they were just fascinated by this story they’d heard about ‘Jews’, hadn’t realised it was antisemitic bullshit to do with Jewish people being devilspawn, and so wanted to see something they thought was pretty cool. I certainly don’t think those kids did anything wrong. The less said about the adult who told them that, the better.

“if people say it’s not racist, it’s at least treasonous.”

Pot, kettle, etc. Your entire country is a rogue state, run by a rebel government in opposition to its lawful ruler, the Queen. You’re all traitors of one stripe or another: winning the War of Rebellion doesn’t change that.

I did wonder for a while if Obama would be enough to bring the Tea Party nutjobs round to my way of thinking, and if they’d decide a monarchy was better than a ‘furrin born muslin commie’ in the White House. (‘Why do y’thank thay called it ther White House, in tha firs’ place, Cletus?’)

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > davedave1111 10/14/2015 at 15:15

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The reason that the situation escalates (in my opinion) with my brother in law with the flag - when informed about the racism behind said flag, he chose to say “no it’s not” and move on continuing to fly it. Those kids you mentioned, had no idea they were doing something wrong, when informed that what they did was awfully messed up, I would hope they didn’t do it again.

“if people say it’s not racist, it’s at least treasonous.”

I don’t see it as a Pot/Kettle scenario. I see it as some whiney bastards who lost in a political vote and instead of trying to gain political influence in the country “took their ball and went home”. Our new country, which rebelled from the Tyranny of the UK came together under the laws that the states would have so many votes to make federal decisions (of course they were hoping not to have that commie in the white house! totally kidding and playing into your above jokes) . When they didn’t have enough votes/states on their side, they broke apart. That’s not the way this works. And that unlawful decision led to the largest loss of US soldiers in our country’s history.

davedave1111 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/14/2015 at 15:42

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With your brother in law, I think you have to give some slack to teenage guys being idiots: if he’s stuff about how it’s not racist, it’s rebellion, he needs something to actually make him think about things rather than just someone telling him it’s racist.

As for the Civil War, and joking aside - nitpick, you lot seceded from the Kingdom of Britain, technically your country actually antedates our current name - it’s really not as clearcut as your history books make it.

The thing is, it’s unquestionably true that the Civil War was about slavery/racism, and also that it was about states’ rights. Without that particular issue providing a particularly inflammatory spark, the constitutional problem that was the firewood would still have been there, and would have become a problem eventually.

In my opinion (and pretty much everyone’s, these days) the strongly held beliefs that sparked the constitutional clash were disgusting, but that has nothing to do with the question of constitutional law: the South was actually right as a matter of dry law in saying that the abolition of slavery was arguably unconstitutional. Of course, that doesn’t mean you had to have a civil war over it.

Counter-factual history is just speculation, but you’d probably still have had a civil war, and if it had happened later it would only have led to far greater casualties - but then again perhaps they’d have been great enough that they’d have prevented the Great War, and so the anti-Nazi war which followed.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > davedave1111 10/14/2015 at 15:49

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I’ll concede you one point sir, that you’re right it was Kingdom of Britain at the time.

Haha.

As for my brother in law I took many actions to try to properly educate him about the issues, I didn’t just go “THAT’S RACIST” and run away.

There was already a foundation for Federal Law out ranking State Law, they lost the political argument and in my opinion - tough shit gotta deal with it now.

You’re right about large casualties, we’re lucky it happened when it did, it could have been much worse only a few decades later.