Apparently, the three terrorist apes are dead

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 01/09/2015 at 11:37 • Filed to: None

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I hope it was painful. Very painful. Allahu akbar!

Cé hé sin > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 11:42

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Pity. Dying is presumably what they wanted, because 72 virgins (or raisins, opinions vary). Better to have taken them alive because jailed terrorists are less of an attraction for those so inclined than "martyrs".

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Cé hé sin 01/09/2015 at 11:43

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I can't think of many things worse than 72 virgins.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 11:46

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This is stupid. Dying is exactly what they wanted in the first place so as to effectively becomes martyrs; we're just helping them along with their cause. What should be done is that they're disarmed and locked up, all of them.

Lekker > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/09/2015 at 11:47

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Right?! Talk about having to teach them how things are done... and don't even get me started on what it would be like once a month when 72 angry women have their monthly "occurrence" all at once..

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 11:48

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Send em to Guantanamo with the rest of the wannabe Martyr's, to be "interrogated".

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Cé hé sin 01/09/2015 at 11:49

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Well there isn't such thing as 72 virgins or raisins, and in prison, they could've been a big influence for other young muslims who get there for reasons that don't have anything to do with terrorism.

Cé hé sin > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 11:49

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Interestingly, Charlie's usual print run was 60,000. It's going to be 1m this week.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 11:49

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Apes?

Aaron James > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 11:50

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the problem with jailing them is that they will preach their terror and convert prisoners to Islam so they can bring terror when they are let out. Better off dead than spouting hate and teaching terror.

Cé hé sin > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 11:50

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Indeed, though in practice it was probably impossible as they would have probably shot themselves if the police hadn't got there first.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/09/2015 at 11:51

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The inmates will love the lot of them.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Aaron James 01/09/2015 at 11:51

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Not at Gitmo!

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/09/2015 at 11:52

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No. Guantanamo is terrible in every sense of the word, torture is wrong AND ineffective. Don't stoop to a terrorists level.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 11:53

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It's not really ineffective, especially when it involves them not going down as Islamic extremist legends.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 01/09/2015 at 11:53

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Aaron James > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/09/2015 at 11:53

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Unfortunately, Gitmo is no longer an option.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 11:53

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They aren't goats or 9 year old girls, so probably not.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 01/09/2015 at 11:54

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Well, calling them swines would've been too offensive?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Aaron James 01/09/2015 at 11:55

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Depends on where you jail them, you can isolate them from everyone else if necessary, cut off all social contact with the world, they'll be "preaching" to no one but themselves. Killing them is effectively preaching their cause as well, and strengthening their resolve and inspiring others, it's what they want most, so I say deny them what they want. Either way it goes, there's no effective solution other than isolation.

But I'm to the point with this muslim terrorist group nonsense where I'm thinking just blow up the damn countries and wipe them off, because trying to scalpel through civilians and get to the terrorist is clearly proving to be ineffective and a waste of resources and time.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Cé hé sin 01/09/2015 at 11:55

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Unfortunately, the price was way too high.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 11:55

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Swine's not Halal.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Cé hé sin 01/09/2015 at 11:56

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At least they would have tried rather than outright killing them.

Do what ever is necessary to disarm and disable them.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/09/2015 at 11:57

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macanamera > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 11:57

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I share your sentiment, but I'm wondering why you ended your post with "allahu akbar"?

ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 11:58

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Right. Lets chop off their arms!

Aaron James > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 11:59

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It sounds like they came out of the building firing so that limits effective response to firing back to stop the threat.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > macanamera 01/09/2015 at 12:00

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Well, just a bit of irony there, as that's usually what they yell before doing miserable things.

Evil-B > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:01

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I can only hope the 72 virgins they get are all pre-op transvestites.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper 01/09/2015 at 12:01

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Fuck yeah! Take'em down Cumberbatch!

jariten1781 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 12:03

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It ain't the movies. There's no good way to disarm a person with a rifle and a death wish without severely risking the lives of others. Totally not worth it.

Osiris - I can haz Euro spec? > Cé hé sin 01/09/2015 at 12:04

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In the words of the great Robin Williams:

72 Virginian's you asshole!

JGrabowMSt > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 12:05

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If it's within their means to carry out an attack like this, it's within their means to ensure they're never in isolation.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:06

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Calling them swines would be offensive to innocent porcines.

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > Cé hé sin 01/09/2015 at 12:08

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Well then, let's hope the person who shot them was a policewoman!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JGrabowMSt 01/09/2015 at 12:10

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Fine.

Might as well kill everyone in those countries then, because it's never going to end.

macanamera > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:12

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It seemed a little uneducated/racist. There are a whole lot (2 billion plus) people on the planet that condemn the actions of these terrorists, and they all say allahu akbar every day.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > jariten1781 01/09/2015 at 12:13

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Well fuckit then, blow up the country.

Birddog > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:13

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I applaud France for handling this properly.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > macanamera 01/09/2015 at 12:21

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Well, that's what they yell. If they yelled cotton candy is awesome , I would've included that in my post.

And I was only targeting the terrorists, but to be honest, I never heard the moderate muslims, publicly defending anyone's right to make fun of any religion, including their own. Just saying.

macanamera > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:25

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Sounds like you might not like muslims in general... I'm not muslim, nor am I offended at all, but I think that if you look into it a bit, you will learn that the behavior of some crazy extremists doesn't define the religion. The vast majority of muslims find these acts disgusting and deplorable.

crowmolly > TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut 01/09/2015 at 12:27

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Yup. They should have women storm the building and do the shooting. No more 72 virgins.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:33

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Ideally I would have rather them had to disappear to Siberia in the middle of winter. If only the Trans-Siberian Railroad hadn't already been completed...

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/09/2015 at 12:34

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On the flip side, it only lasts 72 times.

Then you're just left with 72 sloppy seconds.

#IllShowMyselfOutNow

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Evil-B 01/09/2015 at 12:35

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Or that they are all Richard Simmons clones.

Evil-B > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 01/09/2015 at 12:36

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im not sure what would be worse

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > macanamera 01/09/2015 at 12:36

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I don't have a problem with muslims as human beings, I have a problem with their attitude and religion(but I'm not a huge fan of any religion). Disapproving the terrorist attacks is not enough, you have to support anyone's right to make fun of any religion, god, prophet, sacred burger meat and so on. That's what freedom of expression is all about.

Cé hé sin > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:37

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We're now hearing that four of the hostages are dead.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Evil-B 01/09/2015 at 12:39

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If you swap the Richard Simmons clones for 72 gay men, then it really gets bad for them.

Allah: "I didn't say they'd be girls, now did I?"

macanamera > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:41

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I'm not fond of any religions either, quite honestly. I think (but I'm not sure) that most muslims do support anyone's right to make fun of any religion, god, prophet, or sacred burger meat. That doesn't mean they will like it if you ridicule their prophet, but it means they believe you can do that if you want.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/09/2015 at 12:47

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So cementing the hate towards the US is the way to win the hearts and minds of the middle east? Torture isn't effective as a data gathering tool, and is deplorable to use in any modern society.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Aaron James 01/09/2015 at 12:49

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Unfortunately? You support torture of captured forces?

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/09/2015 at 12:51

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I hope that is sarcasm.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 12:52

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So you are saying that the middle east want the terrorists back? I really don't think they care what we do with the people that cause them heartache, shame, and loss of loved ones. More of them are killed by the goat fuckers each year than the U.S. has lost in total by them. So I'd like to think they'd also wish the worst on the pieces of shit. They deserve worse than death, especially since death is what they fucking want.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 12:53

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I'd like to think it is. I'm all out of ideas for this shitty problem in the world.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:55

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Dude there are tons of muslims decrying violence, just because some are violent doesn't make the entire religion and all it's followers violent.

stuttgartobsessed > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 12:58

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Well, It seems that only one is dead, one is missing (?) and three hostages from a Grocery Store where the gunmen (and possible woman?) took hostages while eluding police, thus creating a standoff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur…

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/09/2015 at 12:58

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I'm saying torture is never the answer, especially the kinds they do in Gitmo. Do you realize how incredibly racist you sound? If you want to fight extremism, increase the numbers of women on the front lines denying them their 72 virgins. Torturing prisoners only makes the US have no leg to stand on when american prisoners are tortured.

Evil-B > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 01/09/2015 at 13:01

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hahaha

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 13:03

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Racism is the hate of a race, I do not hate a race. I hate the extremists who make the world view an entire race differently. The extremists who rape and kill women and children because they believe it's their right. I am against the extremists who believe killing themselves and several others is a way of converting others. So no, I am not racist. Yes, I fully support the torture of those worthless fucks if that is what it takes.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/09/2015 at 13:06

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Calling someone a goat fucker is pretty goddamn racist bud.

Good luck fighting hate with hate, I hear that has worked out pretty good for Russia.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 13:14

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You haven't read my last comment, haven't you? Disapproving violence is only the first step. They need to be less serious about this whole religion thingy, and those living in the Western society need to be ok with people making fun of their religion. Because this is what we do, we make fun of everything, including ourselves.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 13:19

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I'm not saying they shouldn't grow a thicker skin, but your post seemed pretty suspect, what with referring to them as apes (a racially charged word) and following with allahu akbar.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 13:28

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I used apes as un-evoloved/primitive/barbaric etc for the terrorists only, and I already said that it seemed more appropriate than swines, given their stupid rule on pork.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/09/2015 at 13:29

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There are lots of insults that don't use charged phrases.

Aaron James > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 13:45

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The unfortunate part is that Obama is shutting it down and letting these extreme Islamists out to plot and train for future terror attacks against innocent civilians. That's pretty unfortunate if you ask me.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 14:08

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Last time I checked Islamic terrorists were multi-cultural, so I don't see how generalizing a certain organization is racist. Prejudiced, maybe, but it's the same as calling KKK members a bunch of sister fucking retards.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Cé hé sin 01/09/2015 at 14:19

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Yep. Apparently they were wounded and killed before the police stormed the building.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/09/2015 at 14:40

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Sure they are, but if you use terms like that it becomes pretty clear you are referring to a specific subset.

Retards? Man you really don't care what people think, do you.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Aaron James 01/09/2015 at 14:43

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You do realize that torture isn't effective in finding out credible information? People will tell anything to have it stop. Have you read the report where they admitted it wasn't reliable, and therefore unusable?

Good to know you support torture.

Aaron James > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/09/2015 at 14:51

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I never once mentioned torture, Torture isn't being used there now. It's good to know you support beheading innocent journalists and aid workers. (see how dumb that sounds) Terrorists should not be jailed in regular jails that can be recruitment goldmines.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Aaron James 01/09/2015 at 15:10

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When did I say I supported anything, nevermind terrorists? Gitmo exists pretty much entirely as a place to violate human rights, as detestable as some humans are, I find it hypocritical to stoop to their level. Many terrorists haven't been legally tried because then they couldn't torture "interrigate" them as they see fit. I have no problem locking them up and throwing away the key, but it should be done legally. All Gitmo does is act as fuel in the fire radical extremists are trying to start in kids.

You do realize how messed up US jails are already, right? I doubt they are goldmines for recruitment.

If you treat people like animals, they will act as such.

samssun > macanamera 01/09/2015 at 22:33

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How insane has society become when quoting the line used universally by bloodthirsty killers is "uneducated/racist"? Are we so determined to out-PC one another that we've completely blinded ourselves to the reality of the world's religious and ethnic conflicts?

2 billion plus people aren't condemning these actions, or they wouldn't be so prevalent. I've had family and friends in all manner of places after stuff like this happens, and the reactions range from street celebrations to at best indifference. Condemning them is a great way to get yourself in hot water, regardless of your persuasion.

macanamera > samssun 01/09/2015 at 22:43

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Do you think I'm insane?

samssun > macanamera 01/09/2015 at 23:52

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I think years of politicians, media, schools, and pressure groups bleating "tolerance" for the intolerant have pushed us into an insane game of jamming our fingers in our ears and pretending not to notice reality. It's not helping anyone to create Orwellian terms like "religion of peace" to describe those who perpetually fight every other group on the planet, including their own sub-groups.

Ignoring the problem and "embracing diversity" has just invited more bloodshed, so I'd say the uneducated response is news articles claiming "mainstream politicians downplay religion in French attack", when the perps were convicted fanatics, from a state sponsor of religion-based terrorism, shouting religious phrases, while murdering members of a magazine that called out Muslim terrorism, before moving onto randomly selected Jews.