SCCA Solo class changes. (mostly H Street Content)

"Kanaric" (Kanaric1)
09/30/2014 at 00:00 • Filed to: None

Milano Verde anybody?

Series 2 Mustang SVO also seems an even more epic choice.

Or will Mini dominance in H Street continue?

Changes are here:

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DISCUSSION (24)

Trunk Impaired 318 > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 00:09

Looks like I've got a great chance of winning PAX in my region next year! Currently 2nd with a GS car thats getting moved to HS!!

Jayhawk Jake > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 00:12

Wow, the boss mustang dropped all the way to F? Jeez

Kanaric > Trunk Impaired 318
09/30/2014 at 00:14

Are any competitive GS cars moving with you?

Kanaric > Trunk Impaired 318
09/30/2014 at 00:15

What do you run btw?

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Trunk Impaired 318
09/30/2014 at 00:24

Are you in a fiesta ST? because this move basically guarantees the FiSTs a class win. THey were close to begin with and had there been an exception to let them run 225/235/245 width tires, they'd easily be just as competitive as the FoSTs and GTIs. Moving them into HS is basically saying "You know how you all are in H-stock? Yeah if a fiesta ST shows up, just go home."

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 00:24

As an owner of a fiesta ST...........why the move to HS? I get that the GTIs and FoSTs were dominant but I can tell you why they were in one sentence - they had a much wider tire available from stock. That is it. When GTIs are legally able to mount a 235 or 245 width tire and I'm stuck at 205 at most? Well what the hell do you expect when you combine that with a horsepower differential?

Kanaric > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
09/30/2014 at 00:38

On another site I post on people were claiming that FiST people were getting FoST times. I don't know if this is true or not.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 00:53

That is very true. I myself posted a time in the middle of the FoSTs in GS in the first ever AutoX I entered in the FiST. I see no reason for the move to HS other than Ford not wanting the FoST moved up a class for whatever reason. If I get my way, I'll enter myself in GS anyways just to keep messing with them.

Local Miata Bro > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 02:22

Well this sucks, now I'm screwed even more in HS...

Brian Silvestro > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 07:29

OMG THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS

The Fiesta ST got moved to HS!!! Scared the shit out of me that I might have to compete with the Mazdaspeed3s.

Brian Silvestro > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
09/30/2014 at 07:29

Yeah I'm really happy now.

Trunk Impaired 318 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
09/30/2014 at 09:34

Nope, im in a BMW 318ti. But the FiST getting moved to HS is just ridiculous. Fortunately Ive never even seen one anywhere close to my region.

Trunk Impaired 318 > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 09:35

BMW 318ti, we're a very small region so really the only people in GS are me and my father. But if somebody decides to show up in a FiST then it won't even be close.

Kanaric > Trunk Impaired 318
09/30/2014 at 18:38

Ya I was talking with people about it and everyone seems to like the 318TI in that class. I like the Alfa Romeo options as well, like GTV6 and Milano, but the E30 would be way easier to run and probably has better stock suspension.

People seem to like Integra GSR as well now that you can run them in H

Kanaric > Brian Silvestro
09/30/2014 at 18:41

Fiesta ST are probably going to own HS. People already were getting Focus ST times with them, in HS a Focus ST time will be ridiculous. At least Minis will have a very good competitor now.

Kanaric > Local Miata Bro
09/30/2014 at 18:42

Ya, a lot of people are mad. Like if you ran a 140hp or less older sport compact car they kind of screwed you over just by adding the Integra GSR.

Trunk Impaired 318 > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 20:52

The 318ti actually shares the rear suspension with the E30 and the from suspension from the E36 was superior to the E30, plus the 318ti sport model had the largest front sway bar of any E36 including the M3. Its essentially the same car as a 91-92 E30 318is.

Kanaric > Trunk Impaired 318
09/30/2014 at 20:57

I'll have to look into it. I could get a 318ti for cheap.

I just see this being the Fiesta class though. EVERYONE where I am has those so I don't want to be ridiculously outclassed

Trunk Impaired 318 > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 21:04

Nobody in my region has a FiST but on occasion theres a FoST or two and I usually beat them or am at least very competitive. With fresh suspension and good tires the 318ti can be a lot more competitive than people think. In terms of raw times the guy who Im running closest to is in a 2011 WRX and he's definitely one of the better drivers in our region.

http://www.glen-scca.org/Solo/2014/PAX2…

Kanaric > Trunk Impaired 318
09/30/2014 at 21:09

nice, yours is about half the size as ours, i wish it was like that here.

Trunk Impaired 318 > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 21:12

Theres no reason for our region to exist other than Watkins Glen International and historical significance, hence why its so small.

redblockpowered > Kanaric
09/30/2014 at 21:13

Still waiting on I-Street for the 240.

Stef Schrader > Kanaric
10/01/2014 at 00:03

Half the HS adds make sense. The others are in the COMPLETELY wrong direction.

All you decently powered, maneuverable, short wheelbase kids can get off my lawn.

Kinja'd!!!

^ THIS is what an HS car should look like. This right here. Yeah, the Altima should play in HS, too. It's big, floppy and unwieldy. The likes of the FiST and Civic Si are SO above and beyond the rest of us that it's ridiculous.

The Minis should've been bumped up. Other faster things should've stayed in GS or higher.

The whole "meh, I have an HS car and it's not a Mini" phenomenon is discouraging enough to newer participants who might want to try out a regional or national event, but don't want to pay the $100+ fee to get curb stomped by a one-make-fest. And let's be honest: the newer, younger guys who show up to autocrosses tend to have Mom's Old Corolla or Some Crappy Beater Tiburon—and they're precisely what the sport needs to continue existing: fresh meat!

But anyway, the Mini domination should be the impetus for shaking up the bottom classes. Problem is, this proposal leaves nowhere for the actually slow cars to play. I won't be playing with cars making similar times to a decently prepped, less hooned, non-CVT Lancer. Mine's never going to be competitive because I hoon it like it still belongs to my mom and it's an automatic that's not fake-CVT-geared for lower-speed anything—but I'd at least like to be sort of close in times to somebody! This proposed shake-up leaves the likes of me stuck in a class with vastly faster cars. Isn't the point to group people whose cars make similar times, all while keeping a good, fun entry-level motorsport welcoming to n00bs?

justgotFiSTed > Stef Schrader
01/02/2015 at 17:20

Even as a FiSTer who will be trying to go to Nat'ls this year...great post Stef.