Cadillac LTS-V: OPPO Challenge

"EL_ULY" (uly) 09/23/2014 at 12:09 • Filed to: Build it OPPO!

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What would be the specs of the LTS if you were in charge of building the V version?

I would go all in with Z/28 and Z06 components. LT4, magnetic ride, those big ass carbon ceramic brakes, and get the best in the biz to do the interior right. Aero bits also like carbon fiber splitter, defuser, and all those things. This would apply to a LWB version if they decide to do that.

E30Joe drives a Subaru > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:11

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I'd do something crazy like a high revving V10 or something. There aren't enough cylinders in American cars.

EL_ULY > E30Joe drives a Subaru 09/23/2014 at 12:15

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Don't need an extra set of small high revving cylinders when you have one big ass V8.... but I would not exclude a V12 just like America has done in the way far past. Small high revving V10's and V12's are cool but a big V8 puts out as much or more power. That's what I liked about the previous N/A AMG V8's

mcseanerson > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:19

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If we were talking the coupe version my first decree would be no b pillars.

EL_ULY > mcseanerson 09/23/2014 at 12:20

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mmmmm that's a good idea

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:20

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***troll**** Hellcat swap! ***troll****

Possibly go with the new trend of electric + gasoline? A 6.2 liter EcoTec3 V8 working hand in hand with an electric drive system that provides instant torque.

Or if this thing is really a big beast, let's throw a Duramax + Allison trans in :P

It definitely needs magnetic ride, massive brakes and if it's all-gasoline I think it should have north of 600 horsepower. Can we bring back the 8.2 liter?

IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:20

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It needs whatever the crazy engine is called that they're putting in the new Z06.

Jayhawk Jake > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:21

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I hope there isn't a V version of it.

It just doesn't fit. A huge luxury flagship should not have a sports version.

Milky > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:21

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I hope the base engine is the CTS V sport motor & the option up engine the LT1. But I totally agree the V, or V sport should get the LT4. The full fat 650hp version though, leave the detuned one (600hp) for the CTS V.

E30Joe drives a Subaru > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:22

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Obviously you could make a lot more with a boosted big block but that's boring haha :)

Jayhawk Jake > IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK 09/23/2014 at 12:22

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It's an LT4.

EL_ULY > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 09/23/2014 at 12:25

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That gas/electric thing was always a favorite of mine ever since the Lexus LS600hL on 2007. Hybrid for balls not just economy. We dragged races an LS600hL and an IS-F at tech training on a Dallas toll road. It was pretty much a dead heat. Volvo is doing that with the T-8 XC90 and hopefully the new S90. An LT4 tied to an electric drive for more huevos?.... yes please! Power boost and technology...

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...or Hellcat!!!!!!!

Sn210 > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:26

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id benchmark it against the Bentley Continental SS and target the S8, Alpina B7's, AMG's etc.

I'd shoot for a 0-60 sprint closer to 3 seconds. I'd use AWD instead and launch control. Magnetic ride and big brakes, but the suspension would still provide a comfortable ride. It would be a cruise missile not a canyon carver. Pricing would start just above the $100k mark to get the prestige yet undercut the S8. Maybe make a v12 option?

EL_ULY > IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK 09/23/2014 at 12:26

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Oh yes sir!!! LT4 all day

EL_ULY > Jayhawk Jake 09/23/2014 at 12:27

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True. there is no RS8 or M7, maybe that is a good thing. Good point sir

Aaron James > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:28

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All that stuff you already said except it needs at least a 500 c.i.d V12 with over 1000 h.p

EL_ULY > Milky 09/23/2014 at 12:29

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good point on the CTS-V. And yes, do not hold back on the LTS-V

mcseanerson > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:30

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and something something suspension and brakes too I guess.

MRT suspension, Carbon Ceramic brakes, same exact tires as the Z/28, and 30 dead cows for the interior.

macanamera > E30Joe drives a Subaru 09/23/2014 at 12:30

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lol said no one ever

DoYouEvenShift > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:31

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Make this fit....Somehow..

macanamera > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:31

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American V12...?

*shudder*

Milky > Jayhawk Jake 09/23/2014 at 12:31

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I'm sorry what were you saying?

EL_ULY > E30Joe drives a Subaru 09/23/2014 at 12:32

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I just always felt those small high revving or small boosted motors are pretty much maxed out. I could be wrong though. there is always a contradicting argument with any engine because of so many example of all applications.

EL_ULY > Sn210 09/23/2014 at 12:35

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AWD is something that has not come up. That is a good idea. Suspension is active so it can be as smooth as a Caddy or as tough as a.... Caddy V. Though, I think a canyon carver should be more of a priority (world class goal)

EL_ULY > Aaron James 09/23/2014 at 12:35

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*chills* Oh yes!

EL_ULY > mcseanerson 09/23/2014 at 12:37

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EL_ULY > DoYouEvenShift 09/23/2014 at 12:38

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DAYUM!!!!!!!!!

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:41

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6.6L Duramax! 397hp and 765lbs of torque!!! (pretty lady is a bonus...if you look closely you will see she is a bit chilly)

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:41

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We need another V16. So maybe two 5.3's in line for a 10.6 liter V16 :D :D :D Or go all out and get two 6.2's for 12.4 liters :D

Hybrid + V8 would be nice in a luxury car though, smooth and silent take-off. Or flick the sports-mode switch and put down a fury of hybrid + V8 (+ supercharger?) power to all wheels.

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...or Hellcat!!!!!!!

For Sweden > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:42

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Twin-turbo LT engine. Superchargers are too crude for a luxury flagship.

Jayhawk Jake > Milky 09/23/2014 at 12:43

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I think those are dumb too.

Jayhawk Jake > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:44

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Even the RS7 is pushing it for me. Not that I wouldn't love to own/drive one, I just don't get it.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:47

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Revive the V16 and give it magnetic ride. Or Duramax power!

E30Joe drives a Subaru > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 12:48

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I'm just bored with the dickwaving contest between the big three. One of them just needs to make something different.

Milky > Milky 09/23/2014 at 12:49

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Milky > Jayhawk Jake 09/23/2014 at 12:50

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My point is, if they sell, companies will build them.

Your boy, BJR > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:01

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Y'all are thinking too small…..this is Cadillac, the over do everything. A retuned LS is too…..sensible for Caddy. I'm thinking something more like:

EL_ULY > macanamera 09/23/2014 at 13:01

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yeah, old Lincolns, Caddy's, and others

EL_ULY > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 09/23/2014 at 13:02

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Yes please!!! The engine also

EL_ULY > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 09/23/2014 at 13:03

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Multi forms of balls!

EL_ULY > For Sweden 09/23/2014 at 13:04

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Because of the noise?

Your boy, BJR > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 09/23/2014 at 13:04

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No, 600 is too little, fuck man, the CTS-v will top that. Think bigger. Like, 4 digits bigger.

EL_ULY > Jayhawk Jake 09/23/2014 at 13:05

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agreed, I'm not a fan of the Audi 7

EL_ULY > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/23/2014 at 13:05

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Durmax + hybrid. !!!

EL_ULY > E30Joe drives a Subaru 09/23/2014 at 13:06

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true true

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:11

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Give some sort of sequential turbo set up, to make somewhere in the 600hp/1200ft.lb. range + extended range... Who cares about weight in a high class luxury car? Plus the Dmax is pretty quiet now days, even quieter with twin turbo's.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:13

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Supercharged v-16, no exterior mods excerpts for V16 badges. 2 ls7 bolted to gather lengthwise would do it I think, that or the sixteens motor (supercharged).

EL_ULY > Your boy, BJR 09/23/2014 at 13:15

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....plus booost!

Your boy, BJR > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:16

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No. That would cheapen it. N/A V16 making 4 digit hp, breaking 210 mph.

EL_ULY > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/23/2014 at 13:28

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that's true. Those high pressure pumps for the direct injection run off an extra cam lobe, makes for a hella loud engine at start up for a gasoline unit. Also, max luxury is a bit heavy, it will be a tank yes, but one solid and powerful machine above all

EL_ULY > V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches 09/23/2014 at 13:33

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there ya go!!!

Tapas > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:35

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450hp 550 hp V8 base, all the way upto 650 hp. Don't like to go fast? Too bad!

Manuel or a real Dual clutch auto (borrowed from someone who knows how to make them).

Magnetic ride suspension

EL_ULY > Your boy, BJR 09/23/2014 at 13:36

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that would be super CHINGON!!!!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:37

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And efficient!

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:38

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Screw every engine in GM's current catalog and make something bespoke.

6.0L DOHC V12 making 700-ish horsepower. No pushrods because they just aren't "modern" enough.

Magnetic ride with comfort and sports settings. No need for race or anything like that.

Big ass brakes ala Z/28.

Active exhaust for a quiet puttering around town or loud blasts down the freeway.

Fancy ass seats with adjustable bolstering ranging from "70's Cadillac" to "F1 cockpit levels of tight" Leather with alcantara inserts.

New interface on the infotainment system to monitor performance-oriented things like oil temp and trans temp. Along with a G-meter.

Wrap it up in a classy yet functional body kit, throw some big wheels with some amazing tires, call it done.

EL_ULY > Tapas 09/23/2014 at 13:39

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Not one has said Manual yet, the Jalop is strong with you

EL_ULY > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 09/23/2014 at 13:40

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A global and modern approach to the classy beast of the past, I respect that

EL_ULY > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/23/2014 at 13:42

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Gotta save the trees so there can be more oxygen for HORSEPOWER!!!!!

Tapas > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:43

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All hail Manuel :)

Also...Brown colored wagon option :D

EL_ULY > Tapas 09/23/2014 at 13:45

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treesmakewater > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:48

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but there us an s8, I would say that is close enough

treesmakewater > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:50

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I wasn't a fan either until I seen one at my local dealer, it's so wide and low, quite mesmerizing really.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:51

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And diesels release carbon dioxide, which if 1st or 2nd grade taught me anything, it's that tree's need it to produce oxygen!

treesmakewater > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:53

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just put 5 layers if dynamat, what is noise?

JGrabowMSt > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:54

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Introducing the Cadillac LTS-V

Supercharged 572, factory long tube headers, active exhaust, and carbon fiber hood, doors and trunk lid.

Some Monoblock-esque wheels. 245 front and 335 rear tires.

Navigation standard, 6 speed manual base, 7 speed manual optional.

Carbon fiber seats and dash. No center console, just a structural tunnel to preserve the look of the car.

ZR1 brakes, Z/28 stability control.

Appearance package will include front and rear splitters/diffusers, and rear ducktail spoiler.

Car will also get a "flow-tie" esque front emblem.

treesmakewater > Sn210 09/23/2014 at 13:54

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i love me a luxury cruise missile. I live them almost as much as a boat canyon carver

EL_ULY > treesmakewater 09/23/2014 at 13:55

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true, but it just doesn't do anything for me. It's just a regular Audi sedan besides the back end is all. The rear reminds me of the Hall of Doom

EL_ULY > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/23/2014 at 13:56

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It's win win!!!

EL_ULY > treesmakewater 09/23/2014 at 13:56

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bingo!!

EL_ULY > JGrabowMSt 09/23/2014 at 13:57

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Every line gave me the chills. I think we have a winner!!!

treesmakewater > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 13:59

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ive never noticed that before! I like the a6 much better as an all-around car, but i can never get over the styling of the front end on the a7

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Your boy, BJR 09/23/2014 at 13:59

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K, 680hp from V8+supercharger and another 200 electric. Now where are the 4 digits you ask? Torques. LOTS of them. All of the torques.

spanfucker retire bitch > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 14:05

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They've already got a sub-compact Spark EV with an electric motor capable of outputting over 400lb/ft of torque.

Pair the LTS-V with a nice, smooth supercharged V8 and hybridize it with some high output version of that electric motor from the Spark EV. Maybe one electric motor per drive shaft, with the engine power just the rear wheels? Make over 700 Horsepower and well over 1000 lb/ft of torque, while also claiming it's a hybrid.

Fund it.

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 09/23/2014 at 14:05

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2 LS7s. ALL OF THE DISPLACEMENT, ALL THE TIME.

spanfucker retire bitch > Tapas 09/23/2014 at 14:07

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Nah, fuck that. The new 8-speed in the Corvette has received nothing but universal praise for being the best torque converter anyone has ever driven. The shift speeds are every so infinitesimally faster than the PDK, while also being able to skip gears more seamlessly than a DCT can. Besides, this is a luxury vehicle and at low speeds, DCTs are too jittery.

Tapas > spanfucker retire bitch 09/23/2014 at 14:16

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I didnt know the 8-speed in the Corvette was that good. In that case, this car shouldn't be be very difficult to get right :)

EL_ULY > spanfucker retire bitch 09/23/2014 at 14:16

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fingers grossed buddy, that sounds like the general consensus here

PS9 > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 14:52

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I don't know about a V version, but there will be a top-trim level Vsport that will take on the S600, 760i, and S8. That version of it must make north of 500HP to be competitive. I'd love for GM to say, "We've been working on a V12 this whole time and nobody knew about it." But auto firms keep secrets like that about as well as a paper bag full of holes retains water. I'd be fine with it being vette powered but I don't know about everyone else. This car might need more than that to credibly pierce the $100k barrier.

ThePenguin > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 14:56

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I feel like this should be compared with the S-Class, A/S8, &-Series etc. So I say the new TT V6, V6+hybrid, and maybe a new Z06 engine detuned as choice of engines. Then a standard and LWB models. RWD standard and optional AWD. ZF 8-speed all around (because it is an executive car after all). And a plethora of features like SuperCruise and other things.

MultiplaOrgasms > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 15:10

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8.8L V16, twin supercharged, Quad cam, 64V, 800hp.

What is better than a big ass supercharged V8? Big ass supercharged V16.

/thread

EL_ULY > PS9 09/23/2014 at 15:21

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true true. Good points. There was some debate here about if a V variant was necessary. I can see both.

EL_ULY > ThePenguin 09/23/2014 at 15:22

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I don't think anyone has put the TT V6 engine here. I also agree that should be the base trim and that there should be an AWD variant.

ThePenguin > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 15:28

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Also definitely add Magnetic Ride (don't know how I forgot that one). Really I'm imagining a bigger more powerful yet refined CTS-V.

EL_ULY > MultiplaOrgasms 09/23/2014 at 15:29

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YEEESSSS!!!!

EL_ULY > ThePenguin 09/23/2014 at 15:31

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Yup, everyone has that awesome suspension in

MultiplaOrgasms > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 15:40

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My only worry is that GM will screw the engine up (as usual) , because we all know GM cannot do OHC with more than 6 cylinders.

Alex from Toronto > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 16:41

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Twin charged 6.2 v8

Rwd only

Manual only

850 hp

Cadillac please!

EL_ULY > Alex from Toronto 09/23/2014 at 16:43

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Manual only, you don't mess around!!!!!!!!!!

Alex from Toronto > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 16:45

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Oppo has taught me things.

ptak appreciates old racecars > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 16:50

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V16 duh.

With kickass Art Deco "V-16" badges.

EL_ULY > ptak appreciates old racecars 09/23/2014 at 16:52

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V16 seems to be popular, I'm liking this!!

ptak appreciates old racecars > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 16:53

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I find it kinda unlikely they'll do it though :/ Most likely it'll be a V8 of some sort.

EL_ULY > ptak appreciates old racecars 09/23/2014 at 17:08

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not a bad alternative

wafflesnfalafel > EL_ULY 09/23/2014 at 22:20

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Yes - hybrid for balls. 650 gas plus another 150 electric. Big enough battery to run electric only for 30-40mi to let it drive into London - to do the biggest f'n burnout they have ever seen.

CRider > E30Joe drives a Subaru 09/23/2014 at 23:07

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I'd go into Cadillac's past and bring back the V16. Because fuck the EPA.

EL_ULY > wafflesnfalafel 09/23/2014 at 23:22

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heck yeah!!!!!!!!