This will replace the LeSabre

"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa) 09/22/2014 at 23:29 • Filed to: buicklopnik, riviera

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I hope

hnnng

Textured Soy Protein > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:30

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Try not to destroy this one quite as much.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:30

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Ive had a stupid soft spot for them after seeing so many in my area (because old people)

I love the uniqueness of the body

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:32

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Are you getting rid of the Sofa of Murder?!?!

mr2gud2u > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:32

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Noooooo!!! I love the sofa!!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:33

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Mmmmm.

Also, what AtlasM said.

Your boy, BJR > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:35

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I'm torn, because the stronger G-Body is the Aurora, which is the coolest car since the original Toronado Olds made, but at the same time, this looks like this, is 2 doors, and also a Riviera.

I'll hold my opinion until Murdersofa dies.

Sn210 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:35

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I always liked the shape of these!

Also, this one time in Florida I saw a guy in one of these painted bright orange with Lambo doors, complete with 22's. He literally sat in a parking lot with the doors up, watching people look at his car. Just throwing that out there...

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:38

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Supercharged?

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Sn210 09/22/2014 at 23:39

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Yeah, 90% of them around here are either neglected or donks, and that makes me sad.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time 09/22/2014 at 23:39

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definitely

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Your boy, BJR 09/22/2014 at 23:39

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Yeah, the Aurora is pretty awesome, but super hard to get my grubby mits on.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/22/2014 at 23:40

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The LeSabre came to me pre-destroyed. I just continued to give no fucks

Your boy, BJR > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:40

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I've owned first year of both gens. AMA.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/22/2014 at 23:41

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It's slowly but surely dying. We'll see how long it lasts, but I doubt it'll see next summer

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/22/2014 at 23:41

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also "wants his car back" huh?

EL_ULY > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:41

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yeeeeessss!

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 09/22/2014 at 23:41

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I like how the wheels have the appearance of being really close to the corners of the body.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:42

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One of the few GM things i like. 3800 series supercharged engines. My uncle had an 04 Grand Prix GTP (or maybe it was a GXP, i cant remember) but that thing hauled some serious ass. Also when we were beating on it, it had 250,000+ miles on it. He sold it with 28x,xxx miles on it

sellphones2493 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:43

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Ever consider one of these?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:43

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Grounded (again) lol this time for having 2 Gatorade bottles and a *sealed* tupperware container in my room... I'm telling you, my parents are frickin' insane...

PS9 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:45

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Don't forget to strap on some dubs, brah

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Your boy, BJR 09/22/2014 at 23:48

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How much did you pay?

How reliable was it?

How was the gas mileage?

How is the interior fit and finish?

How was the handling?

Were there any small things that annoyed you or didn't make sense?

One of these was at the last autocross I was at and absolutely roflstomped me, so my interest is definitely piqued.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > sellphones2493 09/22/2014 at 23:49

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Another commenter also suggested that.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/22/2014 at 23:49

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Do they have a "no food in your room" rule? My dad has that, but never enforces it *looks at row of empty Vitamin Water bottles*

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/22/2014 at 23:51

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Wait, full of drugs and booze, or just food?

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > PS9 09/22/2014 at 23:52

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oh god my eyes

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR 09/22/2014 at 23:52

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Mazel Tov on the promotion.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:52

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They say "Food" apparently they mean everything (I don't really care, and they usually don't either... the thing was they went in my room (for some reason) on Sunday while I was in Yoder for the Autocross and didn't give me warning before hand.... so I lost my car for a week >:( but nooooo, it couldn't just be parked could it?!?! My dad decided to drive it every day this week up and down the dirt roads!!! UGH RIGHT AFTER I WASHED AND WAXED IT ;(

Your boy, BJR > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/22/2014 at 23:53

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1.) $3000 for the 2001, $900 for the '95

2.) LMFAO

3.) Like, 15 on a good day

4.) Actually pretty fantastic

5.) both were boaty as shit for different reasons. The '01 had a whupped front suspension, was terrifying. The 1995 was before they did anything to handling at all so it felt like every other full sized gm car of the era.

6.) elaborate?

I was impressed, then i remembered the "buick lesabre" part.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/22/2014 at 23:54

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Promotion?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR 09/22/2014 at 23:54

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But of course, doctor.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/22/2014 at 23:58

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Oh, yeah, that. I got my PHD on urban automotive culture, or "hoopties n' rap"

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR 09/23/2014 at 00:00

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I didn't figure it would be in the the history of baroque music.

Your boy, BJR > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/23/2014 at 00:03

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Hey man, I'm not just "another commenter". I'm Benjamin J. Rolland! (the "J" stands for "Fucking")

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/23/2014 at 00:05

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In all fairness I am an old curmudgeon when it comes to rap. Rap died in 2005.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/23/2014 at 00:14

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the tupperware container had nothing in it...

Racescort666 > Your boy, BJR 09/23/2014 at 00:17

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That is J hilarious.

 V8 Rustler > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/23/2014 at 00:18

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Why not replace LeSabre with LeCar?

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Your boy, BJR 09/23/2014 at 00:30

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With all due respect, Doctor, I would argue the hip hop is just on life support. It's been in critical condition since 2005 but recently we've been seeing hints at some frontal lobe activity. Not much, but there just might be a sliver of hope.

Mainstream rap, on the other hand, is fucked. Just burry her already. Damn.

All Motor Is Best Motor > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/23/2014 at 00:40

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Question: Why don't you look at something other than Buicks for your next car? Is it simply a matter of money? I'm sure you could get something better than one of these land barges.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/23/2014 at 00:47

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Even though the overhangs are in fact massive.

Your boy, BJR > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) 09/23/2014 at 01:05

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*head nod in unspoken agreement*

Tohru > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/23/2014 at 02:38

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The Aurora and the Riviera were pretty, pretty cars. I'd never own one, though.

My parents had a gen1 Aurora - it was spiffy as fuck but they sold it after a year. Partly because it guzzled premium fuel like Kardashians guzzle mangravy, and partly because in a few thousand miles shit was going to start breaking.

The Northstar puts the starter under the intake plenum. 12 hours book time. The alternator's like 6 or 7 hours. AC compressor, you just shoot it and bury it in a shallow grave. Steps for changing the plugs include "unbolt upper motor mounts", "put car in reverse to rock motor towards radiator", and "chain engine to core support". The battery is a monstrosity that lives under the back seat with a bank of like 50 fuckin' relays.

I've personally heard reports of Auroras where the alternator internals shit themselves and overcharge the battery. In a normal car, this melts the battery under the hood and maybe gives you an engine bay fire. In an Aurora it sets the fucking back seat on fire while you're driving.

All the relays is because every button on the dash and the door cards lights up. Being late-90's and early-00's GM, it's like a Goddamn Airbus cockpit in there... and you get to watch the lights wink out one or two at a time as the electronics pack up.

If you don't change the DexCool in the Northstar enough (or if you don't switch to conventional coolant), it'll start corroding the aluminum in the motor. The block and heads are aluminum... as is parts of the head gaskets... and if you actually overheat a Northstar (say, due to a bad head gasket) the block warps and it'll eat head gaskets like fat kids eat cake.

A friend of mine had a black Riviera. They scrapped it because the fuel pump shit the bed... and *none* of the gauges on the dash worked anymore... along with the interior lighting. I didn't grill her for details but the mechanic said something about the ECM for the gauges and the BCM for the lights.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Tohru 09/23/2014 at 08:45

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Yep, Northstars are a maintenance nightmare, which is the reason I'm not getting a Cadillac STS. And I'm leaning away from the Aurora because I'm not familiar with any of the engines they used in there.

I like my 3800s

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/23/2014 at 08:47

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I think it has to do with the rounded corners...

Now, my LeSabre... holy overhangs batman.

It's worth noting that mine sits lower to the ground than that. I have to use 2x4s as ramps just to get onto my car ramps so I can work on it.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > All Motor Is Best Motor 09/23/2014 at 08:48

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1. Cheap to insure

2. Cheap to buy (around here, a decent S/C Buick is ~$3000)

3. Easy to work on

4. I know my way around the engine

5.Comfy, lots of features

6. Reliable

7. Very easy to get stupid amounts of power out of it

8. Pretty good on gas

9. Attractive

10. The Riviera was a flagship car when it came out

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To >  V8 Rustler 09/23/2014 at 08:49

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hnnnnnnng dat gas mileage tho

Jay Lauer > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/23/2014 at 23:50

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I say get a Mazda 3. That's my two cents. I had one for about a year living in Des Moines and it was an absolutely great car. The 2.3 is from Ford and needed 0 work at all during my ownership.

http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4664721920…

Comes in manual.

DancesWithRotors - Driving Insightfully > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/25/2014 at 00:58

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Having driven a friend's Aurora, and worked on it.... It's an awesome car, and handles surprisingly well for its size.

So does the Olds 88 LSS, for that matter. Mmm, Oldsmobile...

DancesWithRotors - Driving Insightfully > Tohru 09/25/2014 at 01:09

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The alternator is a solid 6 hours on the first-gen Aurora. Trust me, I know that one from experience with a friend's...

Step 1: Jack the car up and pull the right front wheel.

Step 2: Drain the coolant and pull the radiator.

Step 3: Open the glovebox and curse that you used all the ammo at the firing range.

Step 4: Crawl under the car and unbolt the damn alternator

Step 5: Cut the serpentine belt, because the tensioner is a bitch to release.

Step 6: Get out from under the car, and pull the alternator out from the top, because it won't clear from underneath.

Step 7: Bolt on the fucking alternator

Step 8: Get an 8 ft. long, 3/8" socket extension to pull back on the tensioner release like Godzilla pulling a building down.

Step 9: Borrow a friend's truck to hold the tensioner release in place, while you use the 20 seconds before it slips back into place, to put the belt on.

Step 10: Beg for lightning to strike.

Step 11: Finish putting the car back together in the dorm parking lot, only to have to go get some Dex-Cool, because you didn't plan on pulling the radiator. At least the boat was parked over a storm drain...

Step 12: Remind said friend of the Aurora alternator incident, every time he asks why he's buying all the beer.