"DailyTurismo" (thedailyturismo)
09/15/2014 at 12:05 Filed to: Daily Turismo, Blog
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"DailyTurismo" (thedailyturismo)
09/15/2014 at 12:05 Filed to: Daily Turismo, Blog | 9
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It's 5am on a fine Monday morning, time to raise your hands in the air and count those digits. Unless you are some kind of polydactyly freak, like Anne Boleyn or
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, you will see a magic number, which in the world of BMW's M-cars, means only one thing: speed.
Well...maybe speed and power...and...don't forget repair costs. Fine. Take off your shoe and smack yourself in the face for each time you have purchased something other than an E39 (1998-2003) BMW M5. Don't do it again.
Tipper Jeff wrote us the following note: I saw your email today with the E28 M5, and I was reminded of the few E39 M5's in the Northeast for around the same money. I've recently become engrossed with researching these cars found out just how bad the depreciation is (bad for them, good for me?), but also the maintenance required ($). That being said, for $10k an E39 M5 sure would look good in my garage...since that's where it will be most of the time...waiting on me to replace parts. Jeff was also kind enough to send in a fine selection of those cars, so we wasted no time and put them in order of goodness.
5. 2000 6-Spd Blue Bomber
Coming in at fifth place (and don't think of this car as a loser, but it still beat every car in the world except 4 of them to make this list) is this !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! offered for $9,999 in Newville, PA via craigslist. Expect to achieve automotive nirvana with the 4.9 liter S62 V8 good for 394 horsepower and 369 ft-lbs of torque.
4. 2003 Black Stripe Machine
Next is this !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! offered for $12,500 in Inwood, WV via craigslist. Like all E39 M5s, it is shifted by a standard 6-speed manual gearbox that puts power to a limited slip differential out the back.
3. 2001 Imola Red Modified
If you like your M5s on the wild side, this next car might be more for your liking, it is a !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! offered for $11,500 in Winchester, VA via craigslist. Most of the modifications on this car are cosmetic and it doesn't look bad for a modified example, if you are into that kind of thing.
2. 2000 Low Mile And Clean
Sitting in the 2nd spot is this pre-face lift (MY2001+ examples have angel eyes headlights, celis tail lights, 3-spoke sport steering wheel and a few other changes) !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! offered for $19,900 in Carlisle, PA. This M5 has only 42k miles on the odometer is one of the nicer E39 M5s you will find around, but the price is sure high.
1. 2006 V10 Powered Warship
What just happened? An E60 M5 just won the competition for best E39 M5? Yup. In first place is this !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! offered for $26,995 in Hagerstown, MD via cragislist. Why? Well, if you are looking at the E39 and thinking of how much speed you can get for a little price while risking catastrophic repair bills, why not multiply all of those numbers by two? Twice the thrill, twice the price and twice the bills sounds great!
Find a few old junkers or depreciated cruisers? Send em here; !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!
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Image credits; craigslist, BMW.
Brian Silvestro
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 12:08 |
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This Carmax E60 M5 is the best option here. V10 warranty for $31k, yay!
Vicente Esteve
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 12:09 |
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Those 2 cars sum up pretty much the best BMW can do.
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DailyTurismo
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 12:26 |
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That is a nice find. And that carmax warranty will be the best money you've ever spent to sleep at night.
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Brian Silvestro
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 12:27 |
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Exactly! That warranty changes everything.
IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 12:37 |
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Oh god, I hate E60s but that is genius
melikecars
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 12:56 |
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What are the Carmax warranty provisions?
Maximum_Odyssey
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 12:59 |
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It's an autotragic.
Viperfan1
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:02 |
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If you guys want the V10, there have been a couple M5's for $19-23k on the DC CL . 80-100k miles, and $10k for a personal warranty? Not bad. I've been considering it half seriously even :/
JillEAnderson
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:06 |
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Start working at home with Google! It's by-far the best job I've had. Last Wednesday I got a brand new BMW since getting a check for $6474 this - 4 weeks past. I began this 8-months ago and immediately was bringing home at least $77 per hour. I work through this link, go to tech tab for work detail
gogi
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:06 |
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Start working at home with Google! It's by-far the best job I've had. Last Wednesday I got a brand new BMW since getting a check for $6474 this - 4 weeks past. I began this 8-months ago and immediately was bringing home at least $77 per hour. I work through this link, go to tech tab for work detail
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gogi
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:07 |
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Start working at home with Google! It's by-far the best job I've had. Last Wednesday I got a brand new BMW since getting a check for $6474 this - 4 weeks past. I began this 8-months ago and immediately was bringing home at least $77 per hour. I work through this link, go to tech tab for work detail
golfball
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 13:16 |
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Be careful of those carmax warranties. They exclude quite a lot of potentially expensive repairs. Among the items excluded: any emissions equipment, clutch disks/pressure plates/throwout bearing, brakes pads/rotors, shocks and other suspension components, cooling system components, exhaust components, plus any maintenance item (including major services like timing chains). The cost of owning an M5 will still be quite high- even with a warranty.
Tom Hegedosh
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:20 |
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This post needs mileage in the descriptions. Not the "6 speed and LSD" which is standard on all of them
TomTom
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 13:22 |
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prices sure have dropped. I sold my one owner always garaged 2000 M5 last year for 14.5; I was bummed at the price at the time but after seeing these prices I feel better.
Andrew T. Maness
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:24 |
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I spent most of Saturday evening looking at E39M5's and book marking them, it's like you guys raided my brain, I like it.
But then I ended up here and this car is 10 minutes away from me...
anonJD2
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:26 |
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But yeah, have fun slaving away to drive an [old] M5. I assure you, it will impress nobody and will not improve your life, at all.
bpromersberger
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:27 |
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Posts like these remind me why I'm keeping my E39. But I want an E60 in my life something awful.
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E39FTW
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:29 |
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The biggest problem with #1 is that I would have to look at it at least twice a day. The E60, to me, is the worst example of the "Bangle Butt" and makes that wailing V-10 not worth it for me (says the man that drives a beautiful E39).
coconut
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:30 |
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#4 has been crashed... the rear badge is in the wrong place.
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anonJD2
> Viperfan1
09/15/2014 at 13:34 |
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Not bad? I suggest you look at the real cost to own, operate and insure an old M5 vs leasing a new M3. I bet the costs are VERY similar and you save yourself ALL of the drama.
Battery Tender Unnecessary
> TomTom
09/15/2014 at 13:40 |
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Depends. 2002 &2003 models are holding strong. Excellent condition normal mileage (100k) examples are going for over $20k and have been appreciating the past 6 months. The earlier years and modified example prices drop like a rock and stay there.
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yeah, that guy
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:41 |
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honest question. my brother got an e39 m5 and is having some trouble with it... shocker. It was throwing cam position sensor errors, and he appears to have that resolved. Now it is misfiring. The car only has 30k on it, and has fresh plugs. Any thoughts?
Tamburello Rouge
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:43 |
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It's amazing how quickly M cars depreciate.
frankenheidi_LIIIIVES
> golfball
09/15/2014 at 13:50 |
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And the most expensive failure area on those is the SMG/pump...
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DailyTurismo
> anonJD2
09/15/2014 at 13:55 |
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I haven't checked new M3 lease rates, but I'm guessing in the $700/month rate after a $5000 deposit? Not sure if you'll burn through that much in the M5...but I guess it depends on if anything goes wrong.
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DailyTurismo
> yeah, that guy
09/15/2014 at 13:57 |
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This question would probably get a better response at an enthusiast forum like bimmerforums in the E39 technical section.
TheBoyScout
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 13:58 |
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Hmmm - E60... Let's tag $10k on the price for new VANOS gears and clutches. . .. I'd only touch an E60 in the 6spd varietal.
Note - I'm biased - picked up an 01 LMB M5 with 50k on the clock - she is pristine -$23k
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DailyTurismo
> TheBoyScout
09/15/2014 at 14:00 |
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Agree'd on the 6-spd being preferred, but they do command more money because of that.
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yeah, that guy
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 14:00 |
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Yeah, but you never know when someone will have an answer....
In the spirit of the article, I will say that after driving one 1400 miles over about 20 hours, the car is fantastic. Truly incredible.
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TheBoyScout
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 14:00 |
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the clutch and VANOS gears (known problems) in that car will set you back $10k... The carmax warranty is an absolute must have!
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Viperfan1
> anonJD2
09/15/2014 at 14:15 |
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Oh I agree completely with you, I just meant a $20k one with $10k just in case is cheaper than a $31k one that needs a questionable $3k warranty.
WINGZERO
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 14:23 |
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E39 M5 and E46 M3 for days!! <3
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WINGZERO
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 14:24 |
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No wonder I cant find them this cheap, these are Craigslist
Voice of C. Montgomery Burns
> Tamburello Rouge
09/15/2014 at 14:43 |
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Look up the depreciation of AMG cars and you'll be equally if not more amazed.
jtiberius91
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 14:48 |
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and right behind it an Autobiography Range Rover!! Its like Carmax is asking for these massive charges
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golfball
> TheBoyScout
09/15/2014 at 15:04 |
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Clutch won't be covered.
mike
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 15:08 |
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these are all within 2 hours of me.....also the red one's second pic was DEFINITELY not taken in winchester...i have my doubts on that being in winc, i would have seen it before.
ape_ck
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 15:10 |
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And this:
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/466515
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Quade
> yeah, that guy
09/15/2014 at 15:20 |
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honest question. my brother got an e39 m5 and is having some trouble with it... shocker. It was throwing cam position sensor errors, and he appears to have that resolved. Now it is misfiring. The car only has 30k on it, and has fresh plugs. Any thoughts?
How much trouble-shooting are you expecting in this forum? Most of these guys can't even replace their own M5 clutches or replace the vanos gears... Jalop in name only.
I laugh at your 10K clutch swap. It'd cost me a grand and 12 hours on my back (and a couple days recovery time). Just did an M3 clutch not too long ago. Another reason to hate BMW's.
Compression check is the first thing I'd do. Then if it's a specific cylinder, switch coilpack and then injector in that order. See if the problem follows either part.
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TheBoyScout
> golfball
09/15/2014 at 15:33 |
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Is that true of the SMG though? Although it has a clutch... There's no third pedal - it's really an automatic.
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Tamburello Rouge
> Voice of C. Montgomery Burns
09/15/2014 at 15:45 |
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Oh, I have no doubt. I've never been into MBs, but there was a time when I wanted an M3, so I'm fairly aware of what they cost new. That time has passed, however, as I am more interested in a car whose maintenance won't kill my bank account.
bryan40oop
> golfball
09/15/2014 at 16:10 |
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No extended warranty covers wear items such as those. Not even fords premium care.
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DailyTurismo
> ape_ck
09/15/2014 at 16:42 |
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Would be a great deal for the miles at that price if it wasn't for a potentially costly gearbox issue. Also burning through a quart of 10W60 ever 1k miles is never a good thing, but at least the owner is honest about it. 1 qt per 1k miles is about the limit that any OEM will set for buying back a car on a Lemon claim, but that is for a new car. Oil is cheap, engine rebuilds are expensive, so I guess you drive it till it ruins the cats.
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doubleshotpower
> golfball
09/15/2014 at 16:54 |
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Basic wear-and-tear items easily fixed at home (except for the clutch change). Nobody is going to warranty a clutch and throwout bearing.
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yeah, that guy
> Quade
09/15/2014 at 16:58 |
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My brother loves cars, which is great. But he loves the idea of cars more than he actually loves them. The other day he asked what he would need to do to get a lift installed in his regular height garage. Mind you, he has never so much as changed his own brake pads. BUT.... Because he wildly overspent on his BMW, and is starting to hate it, it will most likely end up in my hands. That is why I ask. Plus, you never know, someone might have had an experience similar to his
ssonsk
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 17:18 |
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Never seen one in that color before
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Quade
> yeah, that guy
09/15/2014 at 18:07 |
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There are specific procedures you work through with any car problem. Misfire is either, no compression, problem with the spark, problem with the fuel or a problem with when the spark happens. I'd say the most common cause with most cars is coil packs. If all or say half of the cylinders do it, I'd look for something that only impacts that bank. Maybe common grounds for the coils/injectors. Common ground or fuel rail. If it's just a single cylinder, you look at that cylinder.
The reason mis-fire is bad enough to set a CEL and flash the CEL light is that it can destroy the cats.
I swore off BMW's some time ago. Few cars drive as well but, their reliability is way down at domestic car levels. I got rid of my M3 because I was constantly fixing it. You end up chasing your tail. By the time you fix everything, the first thing you fixed is broken again (I'm talking about YOU power steering leak).
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falco787
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 18:33 |
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the amount of comments on the number 5.)on the PA BMW B/S/T facebook page....everyone wants to eat that car up
Dsscats
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 20:14 |
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TIL the east coast ain't got shit.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4612908218
Wezbian
> DailyTurismo
09/15/2014 at 21:27 |
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Not to be "that" guy but the article title is E39 M5's. This sir is an E60 and has no place in this article. Good day.
6shelBfan6
> Brian Silvestro
09/15/2014 at 22:06 |
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Love the e39s!
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Also, I hate them. I owned mine for 9 months before selling due to cost of upkeep. I paid $8500 for the car (530i Sport with 5MT 99k miles), spent $4200 in repairs over the next 9 months and had it totaled in a hailstorm. Insurance wrote me a check for $7356 which after the deductible came to $6356. :/
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But, it was the best-looking, most fun DD I have ever owned! Miss that thing every day.
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mastawyrm
> Maximum_Odyssey
09/15/2014 at 23:21 |
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They didn't make those with automatics, only 6speed manuals and 7speed SMGs
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M54B30
> DailyTurismo
09/16/2014 at 00:33 |
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I bet #4 has been rear ended, the M5 badge looks like it was placed wrong by a repair shop
The Stig's Rustbelt Cousin
> DailyTurismo
09/16/2014 at 11:35 |
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#2 is the real winner, because Anthracite.
n54 & s38
> M54B30
09/16/2014 at 12:03 |
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My first thought was "that M5 badge looks...off to me" too
aae42
> DailyTurismo
09/23/2014 at 08:31 |
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how many miles? sounds like coil packs... i've repaced 2 on my E39 540i/6
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jr.jr
> Brian Silvestro
12/16/2015 at 05:16 |
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If anyone is interested I have a 01 E39 M5 up for sale Its Black on Black you guys should check it out if its allright with you heres the link http://34.gs/bmw01
Jonathan Harper
> DailyTurismo
12/16/2015 at 11:22 |
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this one is not like the others
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pizzaman09
> yeah, that guy
08/23/2016 at 12:20 |
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I am this response, change out the cam position sensors.
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pizzaman09
> DailyTurismo
08/23/2016 at 12:23 |
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This is mine for sale. I am putting this here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2625859757