The Fox Boss Project Part 1.3 - Fuck! (-_-)

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390) 09/13/2014 at 16:30 • Filed to: Fox Boss

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In short, both people that were gonna help me get this 351W out and back to my dorm couldn't make it, I wasted my time and money to come out here and I'm stuck here by my self with no way to get the motor out and back to my dorm; this shit won't fit in the FoST. I'm fuckin pissed. So fuck this motor, I'm gonna go find a damn 302 short block whit can fit in my car and do this all by my damn self. I don't even care.

Lesson is, I can't rely on anyone for shit now. End rant.

PatBateman > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 16:34

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The good news: you learned this lesson early in life.

When you can find people that you can trust and they trust you, make sure to stay friends forever.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PatBateman 09/13/2014 at 16:43

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I'm gonna end up doing this whole damn thing by myself and probably fuck it up too at this rate. :(

Birddog > PatBateman 09/13/2014 at 16:46

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Couldn't have said it better.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 16:48

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Aw man that sucks. That block was a gem too. You know if I was out there I'd drop everything to help you. I love doing that kinda stuff

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 09/13/2014 at 16:49

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Yeah. But now there's no one to help me now. I don't even believe I can do this shit myself.

Birddog > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 16:50

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You have the power of OPPO on your side. It'll be hard to fuck it up.

I have a good bit of Fox body experience as do a few others here.

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 16:52

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You can always count on us for sarcasm and clarity after the fact!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Birddog 09/13/2014 at 16:53

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But I've never even done a thing like this before. The most I've ever done was change oil.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jeff-God-of-Biscuits 09/13/2014 at 16:54

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I really don't see a bright side to this at all though.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 16:59

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what about using your moms wind star to pickup the engine?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 09/13/2014 at 17:03

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Not enough space to do so, she uses it for her temple shows and I'm not about to explain how I need to borrow the van to pick up a damn V8. That and she'd tell my dad right away.

Birddog > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 17:09

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"The most I've ever done was change oil."

You already know how to turn a wrench. Good.

Work as slowly as you can, bag and label what bolts/parts came from where.

The most important part is to step away when you get pissed off, cool down and think the problem through.

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 17:29

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Did you get attacked by a badger? That would have been bad. Amusing to the rest of us, but we would have felt a bit bad after laughing. Where are you at anyway?

Conan > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 17:44

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It's a pity you're nowhere near close. I'd offer ridiculous decommissioned Forestry SUV support if you were.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jeff-God-of-Biscuits 09/13/2014 at 17:45

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Michigan, why?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 18:49

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Is your dad not supposed to know?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 09/13/2014 at 18:54

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It's supposed to be a surprise..

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 18:55

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Oh, good surprise. Rent a Uhaul?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 09/13/2014 at 19:00

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But that's monies I don't wanna spend. I'd think it'd be too expensive for such a simple task.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 19:01

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You'd probably spend the cost of the rental in the price difference between that engine and a craigslist crate motor

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 09/13/2014 at 19:07

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I could pick up a shortblock for $100-150 and carry it in the back of the FoST. I don't know about the other though.

unpredictable_swerve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 19:26

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If your around mobile, AL I would find some time to help you get it.

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 19:36

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Ack! Nooooo! Maybe you can rent a pickup with a lift?

Or a cherry picker lift and a pickup?

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 19:36

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No you won't, that's why we are here to help you.

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 19:38

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Yes you can! I did all of mine by myself. I even went as far as to build a bed mounted lift for an old Ford pickup I used to have out of some scrap steel and an old 10 ton bottle jack.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > unpredictable_swerve 09/13/2014 at 19:38

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I appreciate the help, but I'm near Detroit, Michigan. :(

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Philbert/Phartnagle 09/13/2014 at 19:40

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I fear that'd be too much than I want to spend. Perhaps it's a message that the motor is bad and probably not worth it? I found some "gunk"(disgusting feces or fecal mater or a dead something underneath the valve covers/intake. Looked disgusting. -_-

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Philbert/Phartnagle 09/13/2014 at 19:41

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This is true. We do have the collective mind of Oppo.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Philbert/Phartnagle 09/13/2014 at 19:43

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I guess I don't know. It all seems like a bit much for one person to do alone. Hopefully I can do this then.

unpredictable_swerve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 19:45

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you buy my car, I'll drive up haha, 14 hours is what it took me to get here from VA. I do know of a very rare car up there I have an insatiable desire for, but my car would be quite a lot lol.

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 19:49

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Maybe, but around here you can rent a pickup from Menards for about $20 for a few hours and the rent on a cherry picker shouldn't be much more than that if any.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Philbert/Phartnagle 09/13/2014 at 19:56

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Never heard of Menards, not sure we've got such a truck company here like that.

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 19:56

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I bet you can. I swapped an engine in a 69 Mustang in my gravel driveway many years ago. All I had was an old 65 Ford truck and a borrowed cherry picker. It was very difficult to move the cherry picker on gravel, but I managed to get it done somehow.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > unpredictable_swerve 09/13/2014 at 19:56

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What car are you after?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Philbert/Phartnagle 09/13/2014 at 19:59

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Also, I'm having thoughts of using an SN-95 instead of a Fox for some reason. I've heard that the SN has a much stronger structure and the V6's K-member can be used for a V8 swap, and they're surprisingly easier to find than Foxes here.

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 20:12

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The SN95 does handle and ride better, but the foxbody is a good bit lighter. I have owned both and I never saw much difference in the frame structures to be honest. I don't know about that V6 k-member working on a V8 for sure, but I don't think it will work because the engine mounting points are just as different on the SN95 models as they are on the fox bodies between the V6 and V8.

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 20:16

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Menards is a lumber/builders/construction supply store. Maybe you have something similar there like a Lowes or Home Depot that will offer the same kind of deal?

I looked on Google search and found this one, if it is not close enough there are bound to be others surely?

Menards, 14777 215th Ave, Big Rapids Township, MI 49307

(231) 796-7563

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Philbert/Phartnagle 09/13/2014 at 20:20

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I see. I'll continue my research then and see what happens. Although I may have found my motor "solution", if I get a response soon from someone online.

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 20:26

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Best of luck to you with whatever you decide.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Philbert/Phartnagle 09/13/2014 at 20:31

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I got a response! '95 302 short block for $100 local to me and I can actually fit it in my Focus. It's not much to begin with, but certainly more than nothing. Plus the set of GT40-P heads, I'd say I'm off to a better start now, and one that won't leave me empty-handed.

Philbert/Phartnagle > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 20:34

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That's great, good score! Did the heads come with it?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Philbert/Phartnagle 09/13/2014 at 20:40

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I was offered the heads for free(just paying the cost of shipping) last week, the same day I found the 351w. Since the 351 would require modifications for the GT40-Ps I was unsure to get them, but seeing as the 351 is a no-go, GT40-Ps are the way to go!

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 22:26

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Might be able to find some local oppos to lend a truck bed. I'm in VA, so no joy here. I did get stung by a bee at cars and coffee this morning, if it makes you feel better though.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/13/2014 at 23:40

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Dang. If i was on the east side id b there with my ol f150 to help. Unfortunately thats a lot of gas...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time 09/13/2014 at 23:53

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Indeed it is. You're on the west side I presume?

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 00:24

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Yes kalamazoo.

Straight West side reppin!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time 09/14/2014 at 00:30

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Oh right! At Western right? I think we talked about car meets on the west side some time ago?

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 01:10

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wait this project was real? I thought you were kidding this whole time. I thought these were crazy dreams like the Porsche Lambo

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 09/14/2014 at 01:12

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What?? No, I was actually serious about this. This is the one dream I decided to make real.

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 01:15

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Much initiative

Such resolve

Many effort

Wow

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 09/14/2014 at 01:18

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All wow!

Tohru > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 14:55

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Bummer about the Windsor. Saw you're getting a 302 and GT40 heads. Decent compromise.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Tohru 09/14/2014 at 15:05

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Well a 302 short block rather than a whole motor. I'm losing a lot in not having a complete motor, but who knows what I would have found in the 351W, could've been a basket case.

Tohru > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 15:39

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It is true. Used motors can always be basket-cases though - comes with the territory. I gave you enough static about a 302 that you don't deserve anymore. Plus with those heads at least yours won't be the same as all the others I see.

Also, at least your ride won't be a SBC 350/Turbo 350/Ford 9". Yeah, they work, but they're not interesting anymore when every other car at the show has them.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Tohru 09/14/2014 at 15:48

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I'll be honest, I'm not sure what the end result will look like; hopefully it'll look respectable. Something that will be appreciated and enjoyed by many.

Tohru > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 15:58

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My two cents is as follows.

Looks like this:

Goes like this:

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Tohru 09/14/2014 at 16:18

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I just don't want a rusty POS body that'll need more work than the motor that's built for it. :(

Tohru > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 16:19

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I can dig it. Structural rust is a no-go.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Tohru 09/14/2014 at 16:35

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That's my one and only concern with a body; that and that the whole body is there with the suspension. Can be unpainted or fading, I just want a body in good condition.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 21:28

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Yea im pretty sure we have

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time 09/14/2014 at 21:29

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I still have to make it over there sometime hopefully before winter.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/14/2014 at 21:39

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Sounds good man