How Two Unarmed F-16s Planned to Take Down United 93 on 9/11

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09/11/2014 at 18:42 • Filed to: Planelopnik

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Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > Jcarr
09/11/2014 at 18:56

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So this is just thinking out loud but would a flame out not work on a high bypass engine? What I mean is; get in front of the nacelle and go to afterburn, it should choke the combustion chamber and cause a flame out on the engine...or do they have auto-relight? or what about not burning, but just sitting in front of the nacelle and doing a fuel dump, that would be pretty effective at killing that engine. Just thinking out loud here.


Kinja'd!!! Jcarr > HammerheadFistpunch
09/11/2014 at 19:03

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I wonder if they considered that. Seems like it might work.


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > Jcarr
09/11/2014 at 19:05

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Surely there would have to be other non suicidal ways to bring a plane down (for the sake of argument I am omitting the brave sacrifice of the passengers)


Kinja'd!!! Manuél Ferrari > Jcarr
09/11/2014 at 19:15

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"According to the report, there were no armed aircraft ready for immediate scramble over post-Cold War Washington in the fall of 2001."

Good thing Russia didn't sneak attack us...


Kinja'd!!! The Transporter > HammerheadFistpunch
09/11/2014 at 19:42

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I think the problem had less to do with the number of ways of bringing a plane down and more to do with the time they had till 93 reached the DC area. Besides, flaming out the engines just turns it into a glider. This wouldn't deny the terrorists the ability to search for targets of opportunity on the way down.


Kinja'd!!! The Transporter > Manuél Ferrari
09/11/2014 at 19:43

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Damnit, missed my chance!

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Kinja'd!!! Manuél Ferrari > The Transporter
09/11/2014 at 19:44

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LOL


Kinja'd!!! Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > Jcarr
09/11/2014 at 21:49

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Wow. So the cold war ended about 12 years earlier and this is how lax our air force got in the meantime?

Today there are always two fully armed fighter jets stationed at Andrews, with two pilots never more than yards from their aircraft.

I guess I lived on the other end of the spectrum. I live in St Louis and in the 1960-80s we were the Soviet's #3 target in the country for nuking. We always had armed craft & crew ready. It was just the way it is. To have hours-wait of unarmed aircraft at Andrews of all places seems like malpractice.


Kinja'd!!! Two Drink Minimum > HammerheadFistpunch
09/12/2014 at 11:41

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Really interesting ideas. I doubt there's auto-relight, and I'm sure the hijackers would be unable to get the engine relit manually. But it would be so difficult to pull that off.

Still, if the F-16 pilots could flame out both engines on one wing, the induced yaw could put the jet into an uncontrollable spin and end the threat. I really doubt the hijackers would have the awareness and skill to manage that.