CVTs can be fun too

"Decay buys too many beaters" (decay) 09/10/2014 at 12:58 • Filed to: None

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It all depends on packaging.

Hand on heart, fighting with the terrible CVT in my '85 Honda Aero is more engaging than any manual I've ever experienced.

Imirrelephant > Decay buys too many beaters 09/10/2014 at 13:01

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As long as it can get you to Candy Mountain, you're good. Just guard your kidneys...

dinobot666 > Decay buys too many beaters 09/10/2014 at 13:05

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Had me a really nice Honda Aero 80cc scooter a few years back. Man that was a fun little scoot.

As for CVTs, meh, they're getting to be pretty good, even in car applications. The phase II CVTs that Subaru are using in their new WRX and Forester XT are pretty engaging.

Decay buys too many beaters > dinobot666 09/10/2014 at 13:11

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That extra 30cc of 2-smoke must have made it pretty lively! People are always impressed with the power when I let them ride my "puny" little 50cc.

And as far as engagement goes, I was speaking more to the rather unpredictable nature of old tech CVTs. Like when the Aero decides it is going to shift just outside of the torque band mid corner :)

mcseanerson > Decay buys too many beaters 09/10/2014 at 13:18

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This "Don't hate the autos" BS is getting out of hand guys. You're defending CVTs now.

dinobot666 > Decay buys too many beaters 09/10/2014 at 13:20

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Haha. Yeah, actually that 80cc was pretty quick right off the line, but ran out of steam once it hit about 40 mph, then it would slowly creep its way up to about 47 mph.

47 mph on tiny scooter wheels feels like you're doing about 100. :P

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Decay buys too many beaters 09/10/2014 at 13:23

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Weren't these fixed gear CVTs that had a top speed of only 30?

promoted by the color red > Decay buys too many beaters 09/10/2014 at 13:27

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No, this is probably better, if not a close second.

Decay buys too many beaters > mcseanerson 09/10/2014 at 13:27

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I was only half serious here, merely stating that not all CVTs are garbage (or rather ones that are garbage can be a hoot in the right vehicle). I apologetically support the clutch pedal wielding master race, but I don't have to commute in traffic.

Decay buys too many beaters > dinobot666 09/10/2014 at 13:32

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Yeah the 50 is basically the same (minus 7-10MPH).

Honestly, the scooter is the reason I sold my 1000cc sport-bike for a smaller bike. I realized I was having just as much fun (maybe more) on my little 50cc runabout.

Decay buys too many beaters > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 09/10/2014 at 13:33

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No, true variable ratio belt driven CVTs with a top speed of around 40

Decay buys too many beaters > promoted by the color red 09/10/2014 at 13:34

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Totally forgot that gokarts are usually CVTs as well!