State Your TWO Most Anti-Jalop Opinions

"PatBateman" (PatBateman) 09/06/2014 at 13:27 • Filed to: Antithesis

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Proclaim the worst pair of beliefs that goes against the grain of the majority of commenters here. Rock the boat. Stir up the water. DO IT. I'll start.

1. I HATE Miatas. I don't care if it's well-balanced. I don't care that it's fun to drive. All I see is a little four-banger go-cart.

2. I DOUBLE HATE hatchbacks/"hot" hatches. It's a station wagon. And I hate station wagons too.

RAGE AGAINST THE MAN AND DECLARE WHAT YOU HATE.

Manuél Ferrari > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:30

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Oh this is going to be good...

Anon > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:30

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1. I actually like automatic transmissions on a daily driver.

2. I actually really like the dual clutch on the 458 and don't think a manual transmission belongs in the car.

Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:30

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I don't like Porsches, like at all. Not even a wiggle down there. Same goes for the FiST #fuckallyall

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:31

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1) I don't really like Miatas. You won't believe what I would have over a Miata.

2) I don't really like 911s. I respect them, but the only one I would really ever consider owning is the new Targa, because it's just so German .

Brian Silvestro > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:32

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I dislike both the E46 M3 and E39 M5.

PatBateman > Anon 09/06/2014 at 13:32

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Very nice.

jkm7680 > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:33

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I really think that the Miata is overrated. I'd track one, but I don't get the constant hype that they get.

PatBateman > Brian Silvestro 09/06/2014 at 13:34

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I like where you're coming from.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 09/06/2014 at 13:35

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The whole world knows about your M5 preferences. Now you need to do an M3s, Ranked Post

RMudkips > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:35

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1. Self-drivers are a good idea for transportation 2. We Ontarians go plenty fast enough on the highway, no need for higher limits

PatBateman > jkm7680 09/06/2014 at 13:35

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I don't either. Maybe it's just my disdain for extremely small cars.

PatBateman > Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like 09/06/2014 at 13:36

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I've never been a HUGE fan of Porsches. I don't think I've ever seen one and thought "Oh, I like that a lot!"

PatBateman > RMudkips 09/06/2014 at 13:37

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You win the competition. lol

Manuél Ferrari > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:37

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Because extremely small cars are un-American

PatBateman > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 13:37

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YUP. That's why I wanted to post this. :)

RMudkips > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:39

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Maybe it's because anything over 60mph in a 3rd gen CR-V feels terrifying

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:39

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I hate black wheels with a passion.

Your boy, BJR > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:39

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1) I'm convinced that the first gen Honda Pilot is a contender for "best vehicle ever made"

2) I think German cars are more boring than.....well.....literally any other car.Yes, I realize Toyota exist but I would take a yaris over an E class.

PatBateman > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 13:39

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Perhaps. I see them as unsafe and damn near useless.

Nerd-Vol > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:39

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The Transporter > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:39

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Europeans sports cars do absolutely nothing for me.

Oh, there are pictures of the new M3 on the interwebz.

Couldn't give a shit.

Oh look, another video on Youtube about how the 911 is the best sports car in the world.

Ain't care.

Italian sports cars have soul and passion.

Don't give a fuck.

The Butatti Veyron is sooooo fast!

Until it meets a pelican.

Manuél Ferrari > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:39

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i'm trying to think of my two items but it's tough. Never driven a Miata and I've never driven a hot hatch. So I don't know if I hate them.

Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:40

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I will admit to liking the 918, I think that's pretty cool. But every other model just bores the tits off me, I don't get it. Sorry Oppo!

CAcoalminer > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:40

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When you say that you hate station wagons, does that include estates?

PatBateman > RMudkips 09/06/2014 at 13:40

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You'd shit your pants down here. Speed limits outside of town are 75. And 85 on the toll road between Austin and San Antonio.

Viggen > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:41

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I like automatics, and after having driven a Manual (in a Miata!) I don't see the hype over the manual transmission.

I hate, with an absolute passion, the Supra and S2000.

PatBateman > CAcoalminer 09/06/2014 at 13:41

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Honestly?

YES x Infinity.

bob and john > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:41

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1: I dont mind Autos.

2:umm.....IDK. I find motorcycles to be far easier and cost effective to have fun with.

Manuél Ferrari > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:41

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which relate to Murica.

1. They are unsafe because people here drive very big cars.

2. They are useless because us Americans are big. We can afford meat and dairy. This makes us tall and sometimes wide.

1337HPMustang > Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like 09/06/2014 at 13:42

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mfw I'm reading all of these and I reach yours

Dusty Ventures > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:42

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"Little four-banger go-cart" just makes it sound even more fun to me.

1. Audi, BMW, and Mercedes all do nothing for me. Even after a weekend in a C63 AMG, meh. (Actually I do like most Audi Avants, and a little interested in the R8, but nothing for the sedans.)

2. I give zero fucks about Formula 1

PatBateman > Viggen 09/06/2014 at 13:42

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WOW. You've won second place so far in this contest with the second declaration.

Bravo.

ly2v8-Brian > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:43

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1. Mustangs are stupid (well ok Ford in general)

2. Cars need to become less of a necessity in this country moving forward. That's right I'm saying we need more and better mass transit options.

DatsunOfABit > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:43

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#1. Miatas are not that good to me. I understand their appeal to some, but I am not one of those people. I don't live near mountains or twisty roads, so they definitely have zero appeal to me. If I did live near mountains and twisty roads, I have 4 other cars I would much rather drive as well as countless other fantasy vehicles I can aspire for. Nothing about the Miata pushes my limits or excites me personally.

#2. A manual transmission is a personal preference. I have multiple 5 and 6 speed vehicles, but I DD an automatic because I do not enjoy trying to be spirited in 40 mph stop and go traffic. 2012 CTS -V coupe in automatic = mash pedal, go fast, enjoy comfort. My 6 speed LS6 Datsun is a blast as well, but not for day to day driving where I live. Its still plenty fast, you just don't have to try .

http://youtu.be/aeHtXoc2pdk?li…

PatBateman > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 13:44

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I'm 6' and 220 (no gut, just a linebacker build). I doubt I'd fit in one.

1337HPMustang > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:45

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clownshoe bmw is stupid, and so is that stupid breadvan ferrari. I do like dodge magnums though

duurtlang > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:45

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1. There isn't a single American car (and especially truck) of any era I lust after.

2. While I understand their advantages I don't like diesel engines.

Bonus opinion: with very few exceptions brown is a hideous color on cars.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > RMudkips 09/06/2014 at 13:46

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Average cruising speed here is around 80mph. I do that in a decade old fiat panda 1.3.

PatBateman > Dusty Ventures 09/06/2014 at 13:46

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Strip it down to half a ton and I'll revise my opinion.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:47

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1. I don't like Porsches. Not one little bit. With the exception of 80's 911 Turbos, I thing all Porsches are grossly overrated.

2. Same as your first. I hate Miatas. Yet again, I think they are grossly orverrated.

StingrayJake > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:47

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I don't like wagons/hatches/shooting brakes. Never have. The Ferrari FF comes close to making it "cool" but that about as far as I'm willing to go. Note: This does not include ducktail ends like the Shelby Daytona, Alfa TZ3 and Ferrari 250 GTO.

Also, the 911 has never done much for me. I like the 918, Carrera GT, and the lines on the Cayman, but using virtually the same body style for however long it's been just doesn't appeal to me.

Manuél Ferrari > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:48

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At the least it would be a bit uncomfortable. Did you see the new one is shorter and has a slightly shorter wheelbase? I think they forgot that people keep getting taller. I'm 6' as well and sometimes I feel short. I see so many really tall guys these days.

wkiernan > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:48

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1.) I think Priuses are terrific.

2.) I think "supercars" and "hypercars" are dumb, boring bullshit.

PatBateman > DatsunOfABit 09/06/2014 at 13:49

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For the past 24 hours, I've been looking at reports on the ATS-V and the rumors surrounding the car. The 8 speed auto is more appealing to me than the stick because of traffic.

PatBateman > 1337HPMustang 09/06/2014 at 13:50

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When you say "clownshoe", are you referring to the 5-Series GT?

PatBateman > duurtlang 09/06/2014 at 13:51

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My wife had a brown Buick Enclave. I liked the color on that. Otherwise, yeah I agree.

StingrayJake > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:52

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We drove the toll road from the airport to Georgetown at about 3 am one night. Holy shite.

StingrayJake > ly2v8-Brian 09/06/2014 at 13:53

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Mustang bros crack me up. They have this inferiority complex and constant need to prove their 2+2 coupe can hang with sportier cars.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:53

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1. As previously stated, I like bro-trucks. Too further expand on the unpopular opinion, the louder and smokier the bro truck the better. Just don't smoke out other drivers, keep it in the parking lot or on goddamned cyclists.

2. Not unpopular with some, but I will take a fun trail through the woods over a curvy road any day.

Spaceball-Two > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:53

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1. I think the Ford twins look like koi fish.

2. The exhaust note on the Abarth sounds like someone farting in a bathtub.

PatBateman > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 13:54

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I knew it was lighter, but didn't realize it was SMALLER. Da fuq?

I have a long torso, so my head would probably pop over the windshield.

DatsunOfABit > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:54

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I imagine it is a dream come true. I have the 6 speed auto and it just pulls NON stop. The power is insane on it for sure, and I feel like it is easier to use it with the auto honestly. I can hookup and take off with ease. I will definitely have to check out that ATS-V as well. I highly recommend the CTS-V coupe.

PatBateman > wkiernan 09/06/2014 at 13:55

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You're tied for first place so far. Good job! lol

desertdog5051 > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:56

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Not at all a fan of BMW's. Over rated and certainly not the "Ultimate Driving Machine." They cost a ton of money to maintain after they get a few years on them. I would take a Miata over a BMW and I don't care for them either.

404usernotfound > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:56

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I don't like most aftermarket rims on cars. While there are some that totally fit and look awesome, those rims on your 03 Nissan just look like you are trying too hard.

PatBateman > StingrayJake 09/06/2014 at 13:56

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Yeah, you have to be VERY CAREFUL at that hour. No traffic, but lots of deer (I've almost hit a couple on that very stretch of road).

PatBateman > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/06/2014 at 13:57

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As a driver of a non-bro 4x4, I understand where you're coming from.

PatBateman > Spaceball-Two 09/06/2014 at 13:57

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LMAO

CAcoalminer > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:57

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But they're so practical.

Manuél Ferrari > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:58

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Apparently they thought that people got smaller than the last 10 years

Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like > 1337HPMustang 09/06/2014 at 13:58

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Should I turn in my Oppo card?

Nerd-Vol > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:58

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1. I don't care about diesels.

2. The volvo 240 sucks.

Sincerely,

Mazdaspeed 3 and Miata owner.

1337HPMustang > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 13:59

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no the z3 M coupe

1337HPMustang > Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like 09/06/2014 at 14:01

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turn in your decency and sanity card you psycho

PatBateman > DatsunOfABit 09/06/2014 at 14:01

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I test drove a CTS-V coupe a few years ago, and HOLY CRAP that thing is fast. It was an auto as well. Who needs a stick when you have that package?

PatBateman > desertdog5051 09/06/2014 at 14:03

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My father had a 740iL in the late '90s. It was in the shop literally every month for something. Still under it's new factory warranty.

MylesD > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:03

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1. Hate the Toyabaru

2. Really have no appreciation for almost every US manufactured sports car.

PatBateman > 404usernotfound 09/06/2014 at 14:03

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For the most part, I agree whole-heartedly.

duurtlang > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 14:03

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As a tall person you don't need a large vehicle to fit comfortably inside. I'm 6'2", more torso than legs, and when ignoring the limited shoulder room I could fit in a classic 1970 Fiat 500 just fine. A car far, far smaller than a Miata. I don't know if I fit in a Miata, but if I don't it's not due to the length or width of the car.

PatBateman > CAcoalminer 09/06/2014 at 14:04

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Look at those cars you posted. Were any of them built for "practicality"? I think not, good sir!

PatBateman > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 14:06

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Dislike.

Also, did I deliver on this Oppo post or what?!

BlurpleToyotaDishwasher > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:06

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1. Diesel is awful. This is probably 1-100.
2. I don't like the term "daily driver"; I don't drive daily and I don't want to, thanks. I'd much rather commute via public transport/walking/cycling/whatever than have to put up with rush hour traffic.

Also, I'd definitely put myself in the "slow car, fast" group, I'd be bored of an AMG Mercedes in a week.

Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like > 1337HPMustang 09/06/2014 at 14:06

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I'm not the only one here who doesn't like Porches! Plus I actually drove a FiST and it was incredibly unfulfilling from a personal viewpoint, so there's that

CAcoalminer > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:06

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Can fun and practicality not coexist?

PRBot II > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:06

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"Chick cars" exist, and they aren't always a bad thing.

Wagons are ugly.

PatBateman > Nerd-Vol 09/06/2014 at 14:07

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I like diesels in trucks. Otherwise, if the engine pushes the car slower than the gasoline engine variant, I'm not a fan.

In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:08

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I DESPISE MANUALS. DCTs are more efficient, faster, the sense of Man cooperating with machine to achieve a higher purpose (BETTER TRACK TIMES BRO), and F1 cars have them.

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > wkiernan 09/06/2014 at 14:08

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oh it has 1300hp, an oil change costs $9k and has an msrp to take half of the population out of debt?! Brilliant! I feel like if the insane R&D finding for these hyper cars was used on the cars 99% of drivers use they'd be insanely better.

KnowsAboutCars > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:08

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1. I dislike most diesel cars.

2. Bro trucks are cool. (unless they are too blingy)

Edit: Bonus opinion: I like stance.

PatBateman > 1337HPMustang 09/06/2014 at 14:08

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AH. Yes, I'm with you on both that and the FF. I'd also add that the 5 GT looks turrble.

PatBateman > MylesD 09/06/2014 at 14:09

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I also despise the Toyobaru. Small engine, looks faster than it is, and it COULD HAVE BEEN THE SUPRA!!

Spoon II > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:09

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Haha, I've got one. I have a Corolla and I really like it. It does what I need it to do extremely well, thus saving me money and providing me reliable transportation so I can work on my other cars (It's also surprisingly fun once you push it a bit). Boom! Maybe two. In certain cars, I prefer an automatic, such as land yachts and the like.

Spoon II > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/06/2014 at 14:12

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Similarly, in a lot of cars, I just don't care much about the handling. Is it fun? Yes! Good, then it can squeal tires around a corner at 10mph for all I care.

mcseanerson > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 14:12

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I'm not gonna bash your opinions but just correct your wrong interpretation of a fact.

big =/= safe

Small =/= unsafe

I have only been in 3 wrecks and all 3 times I was in a Mazda. 2004 Mazda 3, 2012 Mazda 3, 1995 Mazda Miata. It's not so much that I love Mazdas, I do, but I've owned many different car makes and models and it just happens my Mazdas attract accidents. I was rear ended at a stoplight at 40 mph while I was waiting for the light to change. The car that hit me lost it's front clip.

That's the extent of the damage to the Mazda. It actually looks worse than it was even.

All 3 of my Mazdas left me good enough to drive away from all 3 accidents.

As for small cars being un-Murican I'm inclined to agree even though I love Murica and I love small cars.

CAcoalminer > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:12

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Are you from the Austin area?

PatBateman > CAcoalminer 09/06/2014 at 14:12

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Yes, but not in station wagon form. ;)

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:13

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1. I love my Sebring

2. Collector cars are utter bullshit to me. "Your mustang is 1 of only 50 to come with black paint but a tan interior instead of a black one?! Surely that makes the whole vehicle worth $120k more than the exact same vehicle but with a slightly different colored interior"

I can't watch Mecum auctions because of this. When I saw back to back, near identical corvettes (age, engine, etc) but one was some odddball interior option and sold for a disgusting amount of money while the other was just 'meh' I lost it.

CAcoalminer > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:13

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Well played.

PatBateman > PRBot II 09/06/2014 at 14:13

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HERE HERE!

mcseanerson > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:15

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I'm 6'0 and weigh more than I care to admit. (I look like a retired linebacker with a gut. I wear a 58 size coat, it's the shoulders.) I fit and dd my NA Miata. My drivers seat has had the foam shaved to sit lower but I also fit in cars without a foamectomy. For me the big thing is I had to remove the armrest on the door to work the clutch. The other big issue is no tilt wheel but I have a quick release.

PatBateman > In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you 09/06/2014 at 14:16

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I understand about los manuéls. For a moment, I misread "DCT" as "CVT". LOL

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:16

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Don't get the whole porsche 911 appeal, and their owners are major dicks (car meets). I have nothing against the miata, but I can get way more car than what the used car ads are asking for. Also fwd doesn't belong in a mid size or full size vehicle.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Spoon II 09/06/2014 at 14:16

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Hitting corners at dangerous speeds in my 4Runner is a hell of a lot more fun than hitting the same corners in an FRS. Because I have done both, I can verify this.

PatBateman > Spoon II 09/06/2014 at 14:17

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Understandable.

PatBateman > CAcoalminer 09/06/2014 at 14:19

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Originally yes. I live just SW of Houston now, but my entire family lives in the Westlake area.

MultiplaOrgasms > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:20

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First of all, how is a Hatchback a station wagon?

Now, on to my opinions.

1) I think the R34 GT-R is overrated. I'd take a GT-T Sedan or R31 over it any day.

2) I strongly dislike the Cadillac CTS-V Wagon.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > RMudkips 09/06/2014 at 14:20

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If I can do 90 in mine, you can do over 70 in a CR-V. Source: lifted 2nd generation abused 4Runner owner.

mcseanerson > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:20

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I think the Hellcat exhaust sounds boring and generic.

I think the E30 M3 is overrated.

davedave1111 > PatBateman 09/06/2014 at 14:20

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1. I think cities should be car-free zones.

2. I actually like the Crosscab.

2 b. I think the Crosscab R ought to be a thing.

davedave1111 > Anon 09/06/2014 at 14:21

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Agreed on point 2. Not many cars aren't better with a manual, in my book, but the 458 is an example of the kind that isn't.