Well my kid is in school

"505Turbeaux" (505turbeaux) 09/04/2014 at 10:12 • Filed to: None

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I feel old today OPPO, my oldest daughter is in kindergarten officially. Might as well start hunting up a car for her now. Hell I had my first car ('59 Bus) at 9. I will spare you the pics of first day because this ain't facebook. What would be a good classic first car? It will be 2024 before she can drive it.

JR1 > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:14

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Honestly? An original Miata would be classic by then or a fox body Mustang. Yikes this makes me feel old

Brian Silvestro > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:14

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By 2024 these will be worth well over $100k.

505Turbeaux > Brian Silvestro 09/04/2014 at 10:15

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lol that is what I want to be driving!!!

Jcarr > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:15

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.............Miata?

cretony38 > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:15

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Geo Metro. Go small if you're gonna do gas, and by then it'll be a classic.

Brian Silvestro > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:15

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Better snatch one up now before they skyrocket!

505Turbeaux > Jcarr 09/04/2014 at 10:16

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maybe, only a 1st gen though

ttyymmnn > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:16

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Not to practice one-upmanship, but my oldest boy started middle school this year (6th grade). It's the first time all three of my boys (the younger ones are twins) won't be at the same school. Tempus fugit.

mr_gofast > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:16

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for youngest daughter - Oppo suggests the following

4 door

hatch

6mt

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2010ish vw passat or golf

2010ish v6 accord

2005ish a4 if you want to get super safe have a badass winter.

505Turbeaux > cretony38 09/04/2014 at 10:16

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ha and who knows what gas prices will be by then!

Carl (@stuffcarlsays) > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:16

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Naturally, I'd recommend a Saab 900. However, knowing your family's aversion to said brand, Volvo 240.

mr_gofast > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:17

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fist or fost - by the time she gets it itll be 10 yrs old...safe dependable and hatch..

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:18

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This is what I'd put my kid in if I ever had one. Sideswiped by a drunk driver? Pffft.

Your boy, BJR > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:18

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Aztek

Hummer H2

SSR

Any other vehicle from when GM went through their "smoke peyote and come up with a business plan" years.

505Turbeaux > ttyymmnn 09/04/2014 at 10:18

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ha that isnt one-upmanship. Just means you must feel older than me!

CalzoneGolem > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:19

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Beetle 2.0

My youngest start kindergarten next year and my eldest start middle school this year. Her first car will be a Beetle 2.0 unless something changes in the next ~5 years.

505Turbeaux > mr_gofast 09/04/2014 at 10:19

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yeah they will be cheap as hell. I keep thinking I really want a FiST for myself. Hmmmm

505Turbeaux > Carl (@stuffcarlsays) 09/04/2014 at 10:20

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hahahaha I forgot I told you about that. Yeah 240 by then will be like a 122S Amazon is now. If I only still had my 79 242DL...dammit

505Turbeaux > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 09/04/2014 at 10:21

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this is brilliant. Also no back seat for boys to try and make out in

505Turbeaux > mr_gofast 09/04/2014 at 10:22

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I have an 09 A4 s line 2.0 her grandpa has he might be able to hang on to for her...

yamahog > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:22

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Might as well start hunting up a car selling myself and all my earthly possessions for college money for her now ten years ago.

FTFY ;) Good luck!

Agrajag > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:23

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Not cheap.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:23

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Hmmm... 2024. So '14 models and older will be considered well-used cars by then, so crazy, haha.

So... 1999 models will be importable! So how about a 1997 406 :D

505Turbeaux > CalzoneGolem 09/04/2014 at 10:23

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a beetle, in your driveway? Wow. Good plan though. Depreciation will be swift

505Turbeaux > yamahog 09/04/2014 at 10:26

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College money is already in the bank via grandparents. IF they want to go. I don't particularly believe in scaring them into it. The most happy, successful people I know never went or dropped out and lived life and got valuable experience that way

505Turbeaux > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 09/04/2014 at 10:27

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you speakin my language now son

CalzoneGolem > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:28

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I know. It'll be our first VAG product. In both sides of our families are far as I know if you don't count the In-laws brief ownership of an All-Road. That's kinda weird now that I think about it.

Oh wait my dad did have a beetle 1.x in his junkyard so we technically owned that.

Maybe Beetle 3.0 will be affordable enough in 6 years?

505Turbeaux > CalzoneGolem 09/04/2014 at 10:29

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hmm maybe. I wonder if any of the rumours of the 2018 rear engined one have any substance

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:30

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And it's so awkward to drive there's no chance of texting or anything like that. Such a perfect first car.

505Turbeaux > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 09/04/2014 at 10:31

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I think you are on to something here...

zeontestpilot > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:31

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I always thought it would be cool to own a car that was made the year I was born. So a '87 something.

505Turbeaux > zeontestpilot 09/04/2014 at 10:32

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Iroc-Z. It is on my own bucket list...

f86sabre > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:35

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Brave new world man. Enjoy it. Our oldest is in second grade and the youngest has one more year of pre-K. It's good times.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:36

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99 Citroen XM :D w/ 2.5 Turbeaux :P

505Turbeaux > f86sabre 09/04/2014 at 10:37

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it is good times that the day care bill theoretically went down too (but they went to a new pre-K/aftercare...$1600 a month still, damn)

505Turbeaux > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 09/04/2014 at 10:38

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shoot early XM's are almost legit now!

f86sabre > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:44

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Ouch. At least there is no diaper bill anymore!

CalzoneGolem > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:46

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Baby Boxster ftw

BJ > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:46

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505Turbeaux > BJ 09/04/2014 at 10:47

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hahaha by 2024 this might be possible. MAYBE

zeontestpilot > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:48

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That's the exact car I'm thinking of/want....

BJ > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:50

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Buy one now, you know, "for your daughter". For the future. Yes, that's it... It's not for doing this:

That would be silly.

505Turbeaux > zeontestpilot 09/04/2014 at 10:56

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that or a Trans Am GTA. I had one on long term loan once, and automatic with T tops and DEM GOLD RIMS. Not much of a pony car guy, but they are just so fun. Here is a friends with 25K miles on it, stick. WAAAAAAAANT

505Turbeaux > BJ 09/04/2014 at 10:56

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haha

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 10:58

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MkV Rabbit. By then it will be as classic as the original rabbit, and the 2.5 is bulletproof. Plus, they're a lot of fun if you get one in 170hp guise.

505Turbeaux > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 09/04/2014 at 11:00

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How long was that made, 2 years? I kept my press kit from VW on that car. Loved it

brzedr1 > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 11:15

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Consider the Scion FRS Subaru BRZ.

Here's why:

Power

Enough for safe, spirited driving once she gains experience; but not too much to get into trouble.

6-speed

Learning to drive a manual will hasten her understanding of momentum, which will reinforce the importance of follow-distance. (Also, she won't become one of those slushbox-only drivers, who invariably mash between the quick!-close-that-gap! and the shit!-don't-hit-that-car! pedals.)

RWD

Take her to an empty parking lot after a rain storm and teach her about vehicle control, grip limits, and oversteer. (That's why you post to Oppo, isn't it?) Add snow tires for easy driving in wintry conditions.

2+2 Seating

Sure, fellow teenage passengers are a concern for new drivers, but the back seats are tiny. Fit four when you need it, but it's effectively a coupe.

Warranty

CPO vehicles have the powertrain warrantied to 100k. Maybe you don't find a CPO model with <100k by 2024. But still: a 2.0L boxer, 6MT with LSD is a fairly simple machine by modern standards.

Maintenance

DIY maintenance: oil changes are a snap (pop the hood and you can't miss the filter staring back at you). Trans and diff fluid changes are simple too, which means she'll also learn how to lift and jack a car. And rotate tires.

Safety

Highest marks in all tests except for the small front overlap test, where the BRZ earns average marks – a situation she won't encounter because she'll be a safe driver

Fuel Economy

I get mid-high 20 MPGs when driving like a teenage, up to 36 MPGs like an adult. Asking her to pay for her own fuel won't be too onerous, and will reinforce personal financial responsibility.

2.0 Limited trim

The on-board jack and spare tire, USB charge port, smartphone Bluetooth integration, and GPS navigation means she'll never have a valid reason to stay out late : )

Yes, I'm obviously a fan. But it's a reasonable choice that you could certainly enjoy before she becomes a licensed driver on her own. Cheers.

zeontestpilot > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 11:16

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I would love either. Any year really. Since I'm in MI, I should be able to find one in some condition...

505Turbeaux > brzedr1 09/04/2014 at 11:20

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good writeup. I wonder what these are going to be selling for at that point. She will know standard some time around 12-13 like I did. Pops used to take me on dump runs in the subaru GL turbo 4wd wagon and make me drive home uphill. Steep hills too. And I learned all of my control from banging a Fairmont around fields and marshes since I was 10 or so. We would flip the damn thing over and my friends grandpa would come out with the loader and flip us back right again. It was a wonderful way to learn

brzedr1 > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 11:28

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Glad to hear it, it's a vital skill in my book.

What a great bit about flipping the car over and back again! Certainly couldn't do that with a modern SRS, ABS, A-to-Z equipped vehicle..

505Turbeaux > brzedr1 09/04/2014 at 11:30

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haha yeah just that old beat piece of crap Fairmont. He would have beat us silly if we werent wearing belts though

DipodomysDeserti > mr_gofast 09/04/2014 at 11:59

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The VW products are a good idea if you want them to learn how to work on their own car.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > 505Turbeaux 09/04/2014 at 15:04

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The Rabbit was made from 2006-2009, with the 170hp version being used for the second half of 2008 and 2009. Before that it was 150hp, but there's also a lot of reflashes out there to get the early engines up to 170-180hp.