Show Us the Greatest Engines Stuck in the Most Tragic Cars

"Tim (Fractal Footwork)" (fractalfootwork) 08/30/2014 at 22:50 • Filed to: Show Us, Engine

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Not that the Lexus LF-A is a tragic car or anything, but this motor should make an appearance in something else.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/30/2014 at 22:55

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Easy:

Convert to RWD and add a six speed T56 and BOOM: brown V10 Manual (ex-diesel) wagon!

carcrasher88 > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/30/2014 at 22:57

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So, what you're saying is...LF-A powered Tundra? Because that's what I'm thinking.

Give the Ram SRT-10 a run for it's money.

GhostZ > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/30/2014 at 22:59

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A Massive, 400HP DOHC V8 build as a homologation engine? Able to handle up to 650 or even 700HP stock, naturally aspirated? Known for hitting 4 digits under boost on a stock block? 6000RPM stock, but 7500rpm in race trim? Holy shit this engine is perfect .

So what do they stick it in? A GT-R? Some Awesome sedan or drift car? A Luxury coupe?

Wait... what? No, wait. That can't be right. It must be in something nice in the Infiniti line!

WAT. No. Oh god no. Please, anything. What else did they put it in?!

*weeps inside as my soul dies*

I'm not kidding. The Pathfinder was the "sportiest" car that got this engine. No sedans or coupes, just big, heavy, SUVs and Vans.

ShelbyRacer78-Fusion Modifier > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 08/30/2014 at 22:59

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What lip is that?

Crest > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/30/2014 at 23:00

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I would nominate the small block LS, but that has managed to find it's way into every brand of car soooooo………win?

mcseanerson > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/30/2014 at 23:00

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amirite?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > ShelbyRacer78-Fusion Modifier 08/30/2014 at 23:01

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IDK I found it on GIS and noticed the wheels LOL though I do like the lip...

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/30/2014 at 23:02

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If only Lamborghini was willing to let this be shoved in a saloon.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > ShelbyRacer78-Fusion Modifier 08/30/2014 at 23:02

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Guy says it is just a universal lip you mold to the bumper... LOL

Axel-Ripper > GhostZ 08/30/2014 at 23:07

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Moreso the P2 engine had to be production based, so Nissan looked at their lineup and went "Hmm... I think we can make best engine from the truck engine"

Scary__goongala! > mcseanerson 08/30/2014 at 23:18

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First thing that came to my mind. Of course sleepers are awesome but soooo much more could have been done with this engine.

GhostZ > Axel-Ripper 08/30/2014 at 23:18

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Other way around. The VK is an evolution of the VH design, which was created for use in Super GT (GT500) racing. They expanded to V8 Supercars and GT1 later, along with a few Infiniti sedans and trucks.

Axial > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/30/2014 at 23:23

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Way ahead of its time, doomed by the cost and relative normalcy of the car it was stuffed in. Succeeded spiritually by the Northstar, which was never really anything amazing. I really want to see this thing reborn into a new Corvette or a mid-engined GM supercar that won't be called Corvette because fuck that.

mcseanerson > Scary__goongala! 08/30/2014 at 23:28

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I almost bought one but the rest of the car was crap. Or maybe it's just how good the engine is makes all the other parts look like garbage.

GhostZ > Axel-Ripper 08/30/2014 at 23:30

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To further drive the point home, it weighs a few hundred lbs more than a chevy big block, has massive 6-bolt mains, and is way too heavy and inefficient for a 300-400HP truck engine, because it's lugging around enough metal to handle three times its output.

twinturbobmw > GhostZ 08/30/2014 at 23:36

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Similar story with the Toyota 1UZFE engine. Nice big V8 they decided to put into the SUVs. Luckily a lot of people seem to like to swap them into 240s.

Milky > carcrasher88 08/30/2014 at 23:38

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There is no way that would work. You need torque to move a truck.

The Transporter > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/30/2014 at 23:53

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Oh, that's easy. This:

Stuck in this:

ShelbyRacer78-Fusion Modifier > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 08/30/2014 at 23:57

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EZ-lip (aka garage door seal with 3m tape)

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > GhostZ 08/30/2014 at 23:58

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You have forgotten about the M56... But then so has most of the US mid size luxury market, too.

GhostZ > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection 08/31/2014 at 00:00

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That was the direct-injection version VK56VD. Same block, different headers, cam, intake, etc. It is a better engine but doesn't have the same tragic car/ awesome engine ratio as the standard VK56DE.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > ShelbyRacer78-Fusion Modifier 08/31/2014 at 00:03

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LOL I should try that ;)

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/31/2014 at 00:24

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This went into the Trailblazer:

There was even a twin turbo concept, that never went into production.

This is a built one made for a turbo application. That sound.

Here's a turbo one:

Here is another turbo.

Here is a short thread on the last video. http://www.theturboforums.com/threads/333405…

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > twinturbobmw 08/31/2014 at 00:26

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The 1UZFE never went into a truck. It went into the LS400, GS400, and SC400 and the their Japanese counterparts.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > GhostZ 08/31/2014 at 00:44

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I think you could loom at this another way. Its truck engine. Once these things are in the junk yard, go down there and pull one. A few hundred bucks later, you have that beaut, and the junkyard thinks its just another truck engine.

GhostZ > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 08/31/2014 at 00:48

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Sssssshhhhh. Don't tell them that!

Dsscats > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/31/2014 at 01:24

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The 1UZ. So much torque and a decent amount of power, good aftermarket and insane reliability.

Then they put it in cars the size of boats and never gave it a manual from the factory

T4llG3E5E > GhostZ 08/31/2014 at 02:48

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yeah... but to run it in say...a z you'd add a bunch of weight. and unless you run full dry carbon like Forsberg it's just too much. Or you could just you know...have a faster car, like that'd ever fly at Nissan. 370z Hellcat? Skyline Hellcat?

unpredictable_swerve > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 08/31/2014 at 09:17

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like this?

GhostZ > T4llG3E5E 08/31/2014 at 11:07

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The people who swap these into Zs (it's very common in the professional drift world) aren't looking to use it stock, they are making 800+ HP out of it. You can't do that reliably on a VQ engine.

Axel-Ripper > The Transporter 08/31/2014 at 12:47

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Well at the same time, it IS a FWD small block. Should make for some easy Fiero swaps.

The Transporter > Axel-Ripper 08/31/2014 at 12:54

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Should? Try does!

There are whole kits you can get specifically to swap an LS4 into a Fiero. The only purpose that I can find for a V8 Monte Carlo is as a rolling crate for a future Fiero donor engine.

Tohru > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 08/31/2014 at 13:25

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Check out this V12. You probably don't recognize it. That's because it's made by Toyota .

This is the 1GZ-FE - a 5.0L V12 that is made in both CNG and gas versions. The CNG version makes 250hp & 310 lb/ft. of torque, while the gas version hits 310hp and 340lb/ft. of torque. Top Secret stuck one in a Supra and got 950hp out of it. In stock form it runs dual ECU's - one for each bank. If there's a malfunction, it can shut down one bank of cylinders and keep running.

What's it put in? Only two vehicles:

The 4,390lb. second generation Toyota Century, coupled to a 4-speed ('97-'04) or 6-speed ('05-present) automatic. It's the only Japanese production RWD car with a V12. It retails for around $109,968 USD.

The other car, then?

The 6,440 lb. Toyota Century Royal, the official state car for the Emperor of Japan. Only 4 have ever been made - each one costing over $500,000 USD - and all with the 6-speed automatic.

claramag, Mustaco Master > GhostZ 08/31/2014 at 15:38

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So what you're saying is this fantastic engine should be dirt cheap because of it's civillian placements

GhostZ > claramag, Mustaco Master 08/31/2014 at 15:47

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And it is . Beautifully.

It's basically the best non-LS junkyard motor you can find, if you have the coin to fit it in whatever you're swapping it into.

claramag, Mustaco Master > GhostZ 08/31/2014 at 17:15

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For the sake of research, would this be the VK56DE?

T4llG3E5E > GhostZ 08/31/2014 at 17:20

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Well there's an idea for my G35... (her name is Tallgeese, or Tally for short)

GhostZ > claramag, Mustaco Master 08/31/2014 at 17:21

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Yes. Here's a run down:

VH45DE: Original iron-block V8. Smaller, heavy, revs like a monster. Found in all sorts of trucks and cars.

VK45DE: Larger alloy-block version. Incredibly strong but much heavier.

VK50VE: Bored and stroked version with variable valve timing.

VK56DE: Even further bored and stroked version without variable valve timing.

VK56VD: Variable Valve timing and direct injected version of the VK56DE, highest performing engine.

claramag, Mustaco Master > GhostZ 08/31/2014 at 18:18

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So 45DE for the easy find. Nice

GhostZ > claramag, Mustaco Master 08/31/2014 at 18:24

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VH is cheaper than the VK, but the VH will conk out at 800HP when the VK will still go strong up to around 1100. VH also gets worse gas milage, I believe, in stock form.

claramag, Mustaco Master > GhostZ 08/31/2014 at 18:34

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is fuel economy a huge issue when cranking out 800-1100 HP? Seems like at those power levels, unless you're running in an high powered endurance, you'd've just come to terms with the black hole style fuel consumption

GhostZ > claramag, Mustaco Master 08/31/2014 at 18:38

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Well, compared to an LS engine at comparable levels (which can still manage double digits at around 900HP) it takes a lot of energy to move those four cams. Stock, they made around 20mpg. Modified it quickly drops.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 09/01/2014 at 12:39

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VW's awesome VR6 engine as stuck in the MkIII Golf and Jetta