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"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 07/28/2014 at 17:08 • Filed to: off topic

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The final chapter in a 3 movie adaptation of a 300 page book

That should have only been one movie

To be fair, after reading some of the lore of the Tolken series online, there is a lot of plot they tried to sneak in behind the scenes as if Tolken would have told you this story, but he was busy talking about Bilbo. The necromancer, Dol Go Dur (however you spell it) and all that stuff jibes with some of the history of Middle Earth as told me nerds 100 fold nerdier than me on the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . Either way, Ill wait for the home movie release me-thinks

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Alfalfa > HammerheadFistpunch 07/28/2014 at 17:12

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I do love these movies, but they seriously did draw them out a little too much. There's not a lot left in the book from where the movie left off.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > HammerheadFistpunch 07/28/2014 at 17:19

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Dol Guldur.

HammerheadFistpunch > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 07/28/2014 at 17:21

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Thats the ticket! interesting reading.

ttyymmnn > HammerheadFistpunch 07/28/2014 at 17:26

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Definitely should have been one movie, but you know, money and all that. I think what they were trying to do is drag a whole bunch of the LOTR back story into it. If you read the appendices to LOTR, at the end of The Return of the King , you'll find a whole bunch of stuff that they used in The Hobbit movies. I believe they were ultimately making a prequel that would explain where we are in the overall story when The Fellowship of the Ring starts off. But they also made a whole lot of stuff up. Radagast with a sled pulled by rabbits? No, sorry, that's BS. Radagast gets about one paragraph in one of the books ( The Two Towers, I think). I read The Hobbit to my son last year, and it really is a pretty boring book, with pages and pages of inaction. The Beorn chapter? My god, it goes on forever. They had to do something , I suppose.

The other problem I have with all of the Peter Jackson movies is how they worked so hard to increase the importance of female characters. Tolkien was great at writing action scenes, when they happen, and great at describing flowers and plants and setting a scene. But he was lousy at writing characters. And if you read the books, you'll find that, with the exception of Galadriel, there are really no strong female characters. So they stuck Arwen into the role of other elves to get her more screen time and make her more bad ass. Not that I'm complaining about seeing Liv Tyler on the screen, but they made many changes that simply didn't need to be made. The Flight to the Ford, as Tolkien wrote it was great. A real nail biter. Jackson made a standard Hollywood chase scene out of it. With Arwen, of course, who wasn't even there. In fact, Frodo was by himself on the horse. As a Tolkien geek, I can't watch the films without constantly saying, "That's not how it was in the book!"

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > HammerheadFistpunch 07/28/2014 at 17:27

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I accidentally the Silmarillion.

deekster_caddy > HammerheadFistpunch 07/28/2014 at 17:30

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Aw what the crap. You mean #2 didn't finish it? I saw the first, waited on the 2nd. Didn't know it had a 3rd. I think I read the book about 1 or 2 zillion times, so there's no surprise. I also just saw that the Mockingjay was going to be a part 1. It's already the third movie in a too-long series for crying out loud.

After the 3rd movie comes out on DVD I can have a home Hobbit/LoR weekend.

HammerheadFistpunch > ttyymmnn 07/28/2014 at 17:31

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I hear you, as a Tolken fan and movie geek is hard for me too, but they are still better than some random hack doing the trilogy and HEAPS better than the BBC versions from the 70...except the music.

ttyymmnn > HammerheadFistpunch 07/28/2014 at 17:35

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Bakshi's adaptation could have been very good, if he had had the time and the money to complete it. He was faced with exactly the opposite problem of trying to take a huge amount of material and condense it into two hours—or less. So don't by too hard on him or Rankin Bass. And yeah, that song was one of my favorites. And it's really right in the Tolkien style of songs all throughout the books. Songs which he probably spent hours working on and which I skip every time I read the books.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > deekster_caddy 07/28/2014 at 17:38

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I think there's definitely room for a third movie past where DoS left off: the Battle of the Five Armies itself and the role played in it by greed - what with the expanded role of the Arkenstone plot in the movies - could make for quite a bit of movie.

I have watched the extended LotR editions in a marathon one after the other. Long watch is looooong. Can't imagine what bumpering it with all the Hobbit movies would be like nonstop.

HammerheadFistpunch > ttyymmnn 07/28/2014 at 17:39

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HAHA no in truth I love these movies, but they aren't much copp today. The music is amazing though.

Leadbull > HammerheadFistpunch 07/28/2014 at 17:41

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Better than THE HUNGER GAMES: MOCKINJAY, PART ONE.

deekster_caddy > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 07/28/2014 at 20:00

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I've never watched the extended versions. Are they worth it?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > deekster_caddy 07/29/2014 at 09:12

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Definitely, in the case of the first two. The first seems a lot less rushed, the second has Faramir come off as much less of a twit, and so on. The extended version of RotK mostly just makes things longer, though it does wrap up a few dangling plot threads, like Saruman (one of several not wrapped up like the book).

deekster_caddy > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 07/29/2014 at 09:31

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Good to know, I'll have to check them out!