"Ryanator122" (hawkeye122)
07/17/2014 at 16:01 • Filed to: None
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"Ryanator122" (hawkeye122)
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So I tried to jack my car up on what I thought was the pretty sturdy frame rail, and then it did this.
Bad? How do I fix it?
Those aren't holes, but just spot where the weatherproofing stuff got jacked up. The rear passenger floor is also elevated slightly. Can this be fixed? Is it worth the cost?
EL_ULY
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:03 |
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unibody damage. No fix. Your seat might be a little crooked now.
crowmolly
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:03 |
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I believe it can be pulled but it may not be worth the money if there are no holes.
HammerheadFistpunch
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:03 |
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yikes, thats not good. was that the pinch seam? or was it flat before you started jacking there?
Luc - The Acadian Oppo
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:03 |
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can it be fixed?
YES
Jedidiah
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:05 |
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Sorry, but that's not realisitcally or economically fixable.
samssun
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:06 |
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You can pull your seat, then put a block of wood where the floor is elevated and beat it with a hammer to push it back into shape.
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Ryanator122
> HammerheadFistpunch
07/17/2014 at 16:06 |
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no, it's supposed to be dead flat going by the other side
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samssun
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
07/17/2014 at 16:06 |
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Hammer + wood block
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Ryanator122
> EL_ULY
07/17/2014 at 16:07 |
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Is it likely to kill me, or can I leave it be?
jariten1781
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:09 |
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Torch then dry ice may get it to pop back if the metal is thin enough...but usually that's permanent. Lots of cars out there with that damage though, you are not alone.
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Ryanator122
> Jedidiah
07/17/2014 at 16:10 |
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Will it kill me or is it just "Out of spec" and never perfect again
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Ryanator122
> jariten1781
07/17/2014 at 16:11 |
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Lots of RUNNING cars, or lots of cars parked in a scrap yard?
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Jedidiah
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:12 |
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Shouldn't kill you. I doubt it compromised the integreity of the car if it was that weak in the first place.
It will just be out-of-spec.
Camry-Into-Canyon
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:12 |
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In all seriousness, unibody frame damage cannot be feasibly fixed. You're lucky that you got away with just a pinch. It will be a little less strong in a crash, but it should drive fine. don't do anything.
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Ryanator122
> Camry-Into-Canyon
07/17/2014 at 16:16 |
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So I should just forget about it and pretend it neverhappened?
Brian, The Life of
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:17 |
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Don't feel bad ... we've all made mistakes like this. Look on the bright side, you'll never attempt to lift a car again without looking up the jacking points ;)
Klaus Schmoll
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
07/17/2014 at 16:18 |
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The "Birmingham Adjuster" the tool of professionals.
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Camry-Into-Canyon
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:19 |
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Yup. that's the best thing to do.
Wacko
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:22 |
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both
Textured Soy Protein
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:23 |
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Um, did you put the jack stand parallel to the rail? I've always done them perpendicular, like such:
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Klaus Schmoll
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:23 |
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As others have said, you can try to push it out from the inside. But if it doesn't work easily I'd let it be as this is only cosmetic. Don't know about your climate, but over here I'd get a rattle can of underbody coating and apply generously to prevent rust. As the rust proofing on the inside of that "tube" (what really is that what we are looking at here?) might be compromised and there is a whole next to the spot anyway you could spray some wax or any other rust proofing into there as well. Just for peace of mind.
What car is that, and which part are we looking at, front or rear?
Edit: I did something similar to my first 626 in the late 90s. WITH THE JACK THAT CAME WITH THE CAR! I now understand why my dad always used a little block of wood to distribute the pressure over a slightly larger area. Didn't do anything to fix it though, and it was fine.
LuczOr
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:24 |
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I might just try to hammer it out from the rear passenger footwell.
Nothing
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 16:48 |
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Mine were squished beyond recognition on my 200k+ mile Miata. Frame rails to the rescue! http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept…
Dr_Watson
> Ryanator122
07/17/2014 at 18:00 |
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well, I wouldn't pretend it never happened... You do want to remember to never jack there again. ;)
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Ryanator122
> Klaus Schmoll
07/18/2014 at 02:00 |
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This is the main, errr, seam thing that runs from the front to the back. There's another one on the other side of the car. You're looking right under the rear seat footwell on the passenger side, the wheel is about 16-18 inches to the left of the gash.
626 huh? This was a 2005 Mazda 6 haha.
My climate is "Hot and dry AF, but rainy in the winter". I'll apply some kind of sealant I'm sure. I was thinking bedliner?
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Ryanator122
> Textured Soy Protein
07/18/2014 at 02:00 |
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I found somewhere else to put the stands, that's from the jack itself.
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DetroitIron
> Ryanator122
07/18/2014 at 03:04 |
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Wow Boss. Just Wow. Look just drive it, unless you're going to Concourse this SC400.
Reaction: OMFG Dude! RTFM! This isn't a GM B-Body Old's Delta 88 with a ladder frame!
Info:The square channels in Monocoque Bodies don't have "frame rails". This thing you jacked has tensile strength for cargo-load and crashes and stuff. There is zero lateral load rating on Monocoque channels. The proper jack points are in your users manual (and trunk sticker). On Monocoque's, it's usually at the weld seams 6" inboard of the wheel in question (and those points are only rated for like 10 jacks, use ramps for Concourse Classics). IT IS NEVER OKAY TO JACK A MONOCOQUE CHASSIS' CHANNELS. Only 4 jack points for scissors jacks; and the shops jack up with giant pads now.
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Ryanator122
> DetroitIron
07/18/2014 at 03:39 |
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Well clearly I see that now, but thanks for chastising me anyways.
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Textured Soy Protein
> Ryanator122
07/18/2014 at 08:32 |
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Oh, yeah I see that in your post now. I guess my mind went to the stands because I've only ever tried to put stands under a frame rail, not jack the car up by the rail. :/