"Viggen" (viggen37)
07/05/2014 at 16:04 • Filed to: None
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"Viggen" (viggen37)
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Yes, I'm sure it's been debating on here a million times before, but regardless, both Formula 1 and Le Mans Prototype 1 cars have been touted as the cutting edge, the most technologically advanced race cars there are. But which one really takes the cake? Which one has seen more technology trickle down to road cars? Or other race cars? And what about tires? Is either car type actually relevant to the future of the automobile? Curious to read your thoughts on this.
McMike
> Viggen
07/05/2014 at 16:10 |
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As far as being advanced, I think it depends what's in the rulebook.
As far as what trickles down to road cars? I would think we would get more from LMP, since there are more variety between the manufacturers.
Mike
> Viggen
07/05/2014 at 16:14 |
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I'd say that LMP1 is the most innovative. F1 has just become far too regulated. All of the "innovation" involved consists of finding new ways to circumvent the rules. That's not innovation, that's "Who can bend the rules the farthest without pissing off Bernie?"
LMP1 engineers are actually allowed the freedom to make a better car. Not only that, but they can go about it in several ways. Just look at this year's Le Mans. We had three wildly different hybrid drivetrains competing for the win, with each using a different engine configuration as well. F1 hasn't had that sort of engineering diversity in decades.
FrederickLawOlmsteez
> Viggen
07/05/2014 at 18:38 |
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The flywheel-based KERS system that Williams developed a few years back found its way to a Porsche if I'm not mistaken.
Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius
> Viggen
07/05/2014 at 18:51 |
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LMP tech is not likely road worthy. Some hybrid ideas, but the rest is really race car for race car's sake.
F1 doesn't filter down much either. Things like carbon fiber tech and the like may eventually, but imagine a 1970s F1 car. How much of that is on the road today? I guess the obvious difference is things like ABS, traction control and stability really was tested as F1 tech, but the rules usually squash those hopes. I wonder how different or better these technologies would be if they were allowed to flourish as racing tech goes to the street.
Beyond that, the GT category is very relevant. There is a pipeline of data from Pratt & Miller to the Corvette engineers at Chevy. The C6 was the result of the C5r program. C7, they did it again. It works.
tromoly
> Viggen
07/06/2014 at 01:12 |
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Most technology probably stays in the racing world, with only a little bit trickling down. With the extensive R&D most manufacturers put up nowadays, there really isn't as big of a reason to go racing for development anymore, hence most racing manufacturers aren't road vehicle manufacturers.
With that said, there may be little bits from tires, brakes, etc. that trickle down, but not on a scale that is earth-shattering.
Jordaneer, The Mountaineer Man
> Viggen
07/06/2014 at 15:34 |
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LMP1, because F1 is run by Bernie (I want to kick him in the) testiclestone.