Why is everybody arguing about manual vs. automatic?

"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg) 06/25/2014 at 15:23 • Filed to: None

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Don't you silly Opponaunts know it's possible to buy a car that has both?

*dons flamesuit*

PS9 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:24

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NOT GOOD ENOUGH EVERYONE HAS TO DO THE SAME THING I DO

Milky > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:25

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I don't get it either, my car has both. It seems kind of cool I suppose.

Rinzler > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:28

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As the driver of a 400+HP manual transmission car, I will say: If you track it, go manual. If you don't, who cares? The two transmissions have two different types of users and a both good and what their purpose is. It's like saying hot wings can only have one flavor. (just had hot wings and looking for a reason to talk about them.) Blasphemy. End of story.

Vicente Esteve > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:29

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Hahahah!

RazoE > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:31

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Where is your God now?!?

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:31

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SUPER T-T-T-TROLLLLLLL

Vicente Esteve > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:31

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Saab Sensonic Beats EVERYTHING

Jedidiah > Milky 06/25/2014 at 15:32

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With a manual valvebody it is.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > RazoE 06/25/2014 at 15:34

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what in the fuck is this?!

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:34

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What car is this from? Looks identical to the shifter in my dad's '05 Passat.

Milky > Jedidiah 06/25/2014 at 15:35

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I actually was going to buy a '78 Camaro project car a few years ago that had that done to it. Pretty fun test drive is putting it mildly.

RazoE > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/25/2014 at 15:35

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Probably an '05 Passat.....=D

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/25/2014 at 15:36

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An auto with high and low range?

RazoE > Rinzler 06/25/2014 at 15:36

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I love hot wings. What flavor? I like the mango habanero from Buffalo Wild Wings, but MAN are they hot. I'm the only Mexican that can't handle hot..:( I have dishonored my famiry..

Zzzzzzzzzz > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 15:40

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Leave!

Cé hé sin > Vicente Esteve 06/25/2014 at 15:43

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Ah, a manual box with no clutch pedal. Yes, you can buy the opposite too although not in a car.

Jedidiah > Milky 06/25/2014 at 15:44

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When those old automatics have good valvebody tweaks and you put in one of those shifters, it is magical. Your clutch or synchros won't disintegrate because it doesn't have any and it will shift faster and harder than any manual.

People diss automatics, but they likely haven't driven a properly set up one.

It baffles me when people compain about modern automatics, because they are quite decent. If you want to know what a miserable automatic feels like, then drive a car with the Buick Dynaflow automatic. That damn Hellcat transmission is the reason the term slushbox exists.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Rinzler 06/25/2014 at 15:47

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If I build a 270 hp car with a four-speed column shift manual, and take it to the track, does that make me insane?

Milky > Jedidiah 06/25/2014 at 15:53

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Lol but it was in Buicks, should need to shift fast for someone over 65 years old.

Jedidiah > Milky 06/25/2014 at 16:01

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It was also in M18 Hellcat tank destroyer tanks.

They are ridiculously smooth because it never shifted at all. It was incapable of shifting because it stayed in high gear all the time. You had to manually engage low gear if you wanted to go up a hill. It is only considered an automatic because it had no clutch.

The torque multiplication of the trans also made acceleration frightfully slow.

If you were over 65 in 1950, then you could get a car with the Hydramtic instead. Oldsmobile's Hydramatic was also smooth and slow shifting, but it didn't murder acceleration like the Dynaflow, because it had 4 speeds and used them all.

Milky > Jedidiah 06/25/2014 at 16:11

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Ohh so it was just crap period. Lol, gotcha.

Jedidiah > Milky 06/25/2014 at 16:14

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Wasn't entirely crap. It was strong enough to be used in tanks. It's just that they put it in a car . . .

Vicente Esteve > Cé hé sin 06/25/2014 at 16:15

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Where?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Rinzler 06/25/2014 at 16:17

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I like hot wing. And now you made me hungry.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Vicente Esteve 06/25/2014 at 16:18

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Just don't try doing anything silly like parallel parking.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/25/2014 at 16:19

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...I'm assuming you're kidding.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 06/25/2014 at 16:19

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I'm not even gonna pretend I'm not trolling

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/25/2014 at 16:20

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That is the lever for a transfer case on an old fashioned 4x4.

Vicente Esteve > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 16:22

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Haha, or going up a hill

McMike > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/25/2014 at 16:37

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I am no longer here to fight over manual vs automatic. I am here to fight to get the goddamn +/- selections in the right place.

- (forward) to downshift.

+ (back) to upshift

This is correct

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/25/2014 at 16:53

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2001 Audi A8

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Zzzzzzzzzz 06/25/2014 at 16:53

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Never!

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > RazoE 06/25/2014 at 16:54

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Driving an Isuzu Trooper apparently.

RazoE > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 06/25/2014 at 17:02

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True dat.

Cé hé sin > Vicente Esteve 06/25/2014 at 17:22

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In trucks (proper ones, not pick ups). There are several makes but the one I'm thinking is Scania's Opticruise which as originally conceived controlled only the gearbox. You therefore started off using a clutch pedal and from there the electronics and pneumatics carried out clutchless changes on an otherwise standard synchromesh box which isn't something you come across very often. Nowadays the clutch is generally automated as well but some buyers still go for the three pedal option as they consider that low speed manoeuvring is easier with a manual clutch. Drivers with the full automatic option sometimes complain that they accelerate gently and nothing happens so they apply a few more revs and then oh-my-God-I'm-going-to-crash-into-my-trailer.

Vicente Esteve > Cé hé sin 06/25/2014 at 17:24

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Very interesting, and also with autos thats the same issue I also find. Reverse in a hill is hard to modulate.