"mcseanerson" (mcseanerson)
06/25/2014 at 08:04 • Filed to: None
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"mcseanerson" (mcseanerson)
06/25/2014 at 08:04 • Filed to: None | 3
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After looking at the gis results for stanced volvo I believe it's camber.
Take this example. I think it's hideous.
These on the other hand I find somewhat tasteful.
This one I find questionable.
willkinton247
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:14 |
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I think it's that the cars are just broken.
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:17 |
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Lowness in the context of lowriders was always about the height of the body, not contact of the tires with it. Thus, scraping is impractical, but you can keep an illusion that that isn't happening because you're not watching the metal meet the road- unless it's one with scrape plates out driving. In other words, lowriders allow something impractical to seem at least possible, whereas a car with no over-tire gap at all is clearly, plainly doing things that the mind's eye can envision biting and grinding together.
Combine this with camber, and the mental image of rubbing, grinding, and broken suspension is *wildly* more declasse' than just being low.
Mark - Sixpots None The Richer
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:18 |
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It seems to me that people get mad because (extreme) stance ruins the drivability. Especially with cars that are considered sporty this appears to be very upsetting.
I don't a have a strong opinion about stanced cars. It's the owners choice what to do with their ride, and I neither have to pay for it nor drive it.
But I would agree with you. Lowering can improve the appearance while too much camber makes a car look "disabled".
duurtlang
> willkinton247
06/25/2014 at 08:19 |
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Exactly. The true sin is that everything meaningful (performance, handling, practicality; usefulness really) is sacrificed for a certain questionable aesthetic.
Mattbob
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:27 |
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Sacrificing function for (questionable) form.
OPPOsaurus WRX
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:33 |
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It took ten minutes for him to get this far. He and his bro's went to Home Depot to get plywood and 2X4's so he can make it the next 5 feet.
Jayhawk Jake
> willkinton247
06/25/2014 at 08:36 |
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If it's done for style, that's fine. Excessive camber is bad, but I actually like tastefully stanced cars.
What blows my mind is when it's done to performance cars, or even worse is when it's done to performance cars along with performance modifications.
People will take a car, tune it, add a performance exhaust, add new intakes, etc and then kill all of that performance by lowering the car so much it can't drive over a speed bump.
KnowsAboutCars
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:39 |
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My own opinion is camber. Especially when it's overdone or when there's noticeably more camber in rear than in front.
themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
> duurtlang
06/25/2014 at 08:40 |
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Eh, most of the common cars that get stanced right never had those attributes to begin with. Giving an M3 static suspension and a lot of camber is a crime, but really those volvos? They didn't have much handling to begin with anyways. If you're not a complete gorilla you can still retain practicality with coilovers if you don't fuck it up so you can still carry groceries and things. If you really want to do it right, you use some sort of active suspension setup (usually airbags). And as for the aesthetic portion - I don't really think stancing is that amazing when done on something dwindling in numbers like these old volvos, but a 90s econobox is the perfect candidate in my eyes. Why not slam an accord or a jetta or an altima? It's not like you could make them any more boring.
Pixel
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:43 |
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I am not a fan of stanced cars, and honestly do not understand the desire to have your car so low that a ridge in the road can rip your oil pan off.
But I can't hate them the way so many other seem to for the simple reason that they have decided on the aesthetic they wanted, have worked damn hard to get it, and are willing to live with the reduction in functionality that it has given them.
I can't hate that for the same reason I can't hate this:
or this:
or this:
or this:
zmf2112
> Mark - Sixpots None The Richer
06/25/2014 at 08:43 |
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This is true (and I agree) to a point. If it's a show car, fine - do whatever you want. But when I see crazy camber on the highway, stay tf away from me. I want to be far away when that goes sideways. Or at least far enough behind it to avoid it, but close enough for my dashcam to catch it.
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I Hoon Therefore I Am
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:46 |
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The true sin of stance is when people think it is a good idea to stretch the tires. A little bit of stretch is okay but I would rather have everything properly sized. When I see this
my first normal reaction is a lot like this.
Why cant people understand that having a meaty tire looks a hell of a lot better and it actually allows the car to function?
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mcseanerson
> Pixel
06/25/2014 at 08:52 |
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How about donks? Are we allowed to hate donks?
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mcseanerson
> I Hoon Therefore I Am
06/25/2014 at 08:55 |
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There's a term for the stretched tire concept and I can't remember what it is for the life of me. I think that this is the second problem after camber. We need to make a chart of how much you can lower a car, stretch the tire, and how much camber you can have before it gets gross.
macanamera
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:56 |
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If you don't hate donks you have issues.
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macanamera
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 08:57 |
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The sin is that it renders the car useless.
Nibbles
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 09:08 |
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This? Not too bad.
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Nibbles
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 09:08 |
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This one, I'd rock pretty freakin' hard
crowmolly
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 09:22 |
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To me, it's stretched tires. And that's really it.
thejustache
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 09:22 |
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What happens if you stance a donk?
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mcseanerson
> thejustache
06/25/2014 at 09:25 |
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I've actually been wanting to see that. Combine two hated car cultures and see if they can make something magical.
quarterlifecrisis
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 09:29 |
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The true sin on most of them is the stupid ass stretched tires. The next, non lethal sin, is the -17 degrees of camber. Some don't look bad...provided they have normal camber and tires of an appropriate width,
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mcseanerson
> quarterlifecrisis
06/25/2014 at 09:31 |
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Personally I reverse those two. The first thing that bugs me is the inane amount of negative camber then followed by stretched tires. Obviously how much they do of each plays a factor in which is more offensive.
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Mark - Sixpots None The Richer
> zmf2112
06/25/2014 at 09:33 |
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"You want the impossible!"
Battery Tender Unnecessary
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 09:37 |
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Perfectly perpendicular to the road is the only right camber for stance. Who wants their wheels to look like "bucked teeth"?
Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 10:21 |
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All of these cars are really nicely done, espescially the Volvo on the top.
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mcseanerson
> Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder
06/25/2014 at 10:22 |
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I hate the volvo on top just for not being a brick. The stance is just icing on the ass cake.
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mcseanerson
> thejustache
06/25/2014 at 13:04 |
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They've done it....
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> thejustache
06/25/2014 at 13:05 |
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That is actually the "right" way to do a donk. Your supposed to lift the car the bare minimum amount to get the 24-30 inch wheels in there. it ends up looking a lot better.
right
Wrong
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mcseanerson
> Mark - Sixpots None The Richer
06/25/2014 at 13:07 |
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I don't know what to do with this
anothermiatafanboy
> Pixel
06/25/2014 at 13:09 |
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A-fuckin-men! Passion is passion...the more car enthusiasts the better.
R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 13:22 |
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I'm gonna be sick. That car has 3 factors of ugly: the car itself (although, the only camaros that look right to me are verts with the roof down all the time) then the stance, then the donk, oh and plus the stretched tires.
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R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 13:30 |
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I just don't get it. How can the car survive a normal days drive in any major metropolitan area? The tires look all fucked up all the time. Do they swap wheels when not at stance nation events? Or is this one of those ironic-hipster things?
One stancer says, "Ok, so cars right?"
The other replies, "Yeah, they are for transportation and going places, and even for racing."
Stancer 1 says, "Ok so, do you remember Herbie the Love bug?"
"Yeah, what about it?"
"Ok, do you remember when the car was tired or something and collapsed on itself, lower than those OG lowriders that the vatos cruise in?"
"What when the wheels were all bent in and the thing looked broken?"
"Yeah, exactly that."
"Go on..."
"Well it's ironic, and doesn't make sense because people generally want their cars to run and work properly all the time, right?"
"Yeah."
"Ok so we do that to our cars, create a whole car sub-culture that makes cars completely useless."
"Sounds good, I guess. I mean as long as I get insta-twit-face-youtube bishes to click like and shit."
"Oh can we also use old school handwriting that they don't teach in school anymore? I think it was called cursive to say some kind of entitled or privileged stupid shit about being hard parked or whatever?"
"Fo sho, braj, the instagram-twitter bishes be loving on dat."
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 13:32 |
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turning radius: 3.6 miles
With-a-G is back to not having anything written after his username
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 13:46 |
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Stanced Donk = Stank
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Mark - Sixpots None The Richer
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 14:06 |
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It really looks great from this angle. I've no idea what said camber looks like from another point of view.
Whether it's still reasonably driveable is not for me to decide though.
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mcseanerson
> Mark - Sixpots None The Richer
06/25/2014 at 14:10 |
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This seems to me to be the perfect combination of the most of any element of stance without too much of any of it. Might not be driveable though.
CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist)
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 17:59 |
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Why in the hell would someone put a BMX bike on a bike rack?
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CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist)
> mcseanerson
06/25/2014 at 18:00 |
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And the most sacrilegious car to (edit donk) will be a 5th gen Camaro Z28.