To every American who complains about fuel prices.

"Upshift" (Upshift) 06/13/2014 at 12:03 • Filed to: None

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Prices went up for me, your neighbour to the north, who has no real reason to pay so much more than you do. So, I pay the equivalent of 5.37$ per gallon of regular and close to 6$ for premium. And our europeen friends pay way more still.

/endrant

Don't mind me today people.

ddavidn > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 12:04

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Out of curiosity, what are the octane levels of those prices?

mr_gofast > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 12:05

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actually funny you mention that..i spoke with someone yesterday who lives in the UK and Florida/Canada depending on the season. She mentioned that after all costs are considered the UK fuel costs are per Liter and are the same as Canada about 1.40 per Liter

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 12:07

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I wonder if the impact between dollar values has anything to do with the differences...

mr_gofast > ddavidn 06/13/2014 at 12:09

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Difference between Europe and USA is 4-5 points, UK 97 will be the same as 92-93 in the USA. The UK use the Ron or Research octane number where as over there they use the Pump octane number which is calculated from both the motor octane number and the research octane number.You should be able to find a chart which compares the motor octane, Research octane and pump octane numbers

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 12:12

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it was cause for celebration when regular went down to $1.33 a litre last week.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 12:15

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multiple wheels for each day of the week > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 12:24

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But But BUT you have free healthcare ....

BaconSandwich is tasty. > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 06/13/2014 at 12:48

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What part of the country are you in? Regular around here has been ~$1.23/L for the last little while.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 12:50

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This is the main reason I have been researching the heck out of plug-in hybrids. Ideally I'd like something with enough electric range to get around town, and added gas range for long trips.

Right now there aren't a ton of them out there. The cheapest one I have found was a 2011 Chevy Volt in the bay area for ~$22k.

Upshift > ddavidn 06/13/2014 at 12:54

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what mr_gofast said. Our octane levels in Canada are calculated in the same way as the USA. Our regular is 87 and premium is 91(our system)

Upshift > mr_gofast 06/13/2014 at 12:56

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Damn. Oh the pain!

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > BaconSandwich is tasty. 06/13/2014 at 12:56

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Kingston Ontario. You out west?

BaconSandwich is tasty. > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 06/13/2014 at 12:58

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Yeah. Southern Alberta.

Upshift > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 06/13/2014 at 12:58

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well 5.37 CAD is 4.94 USD. Still a wide gulf.

mr_gofast > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 06/13/2014 at 12:59

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WTF im in Ottawa and its 1.31+ on a good day.

mr_gofast > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 12:59

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hence the UK loves diesal - its dirt cheap there.

Upshift > BaconSandwich is tasty. 06/13/2014 at 13:02

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The volt does look mighty tempting especially since it's just a good car overall.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 13:02

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Gas station this morning in Michigan was at 3.98 for regular so a full dollar almost.

Upshift > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 06/13/2014 at 13:05

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Which means it would be about 15$ cheaper to fill up my Mustang in Michigan. Differences like that can add up in a hurry.

Upshift > mr_gofast 06/13/2014 at 13:10

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Wait, you're in Ottawa? My office is in Ottawa and I leave out in Gatineau! Rad!

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > BaconSandwich is tasty. 06/13/2014 at 13:10

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Thought so. Nice and close to the oil sands.

mr_gofast > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 13:11

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yea im At Transport Canada - dt at the Minto building.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 06/13/2014 at 13:15

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Slightly. They are a lot further north. Gas prices in Calgary are generally higher than, say, Lloydminster. I'm not sure what they are up in Ft. Mac.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 13:19

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I hadn't considered the Volt too much, but upon learning that used prices were not too bad, it's become a viable option. Our original plan was to buy a Tesla in <10 years, but now I'm thinking more of a plug-in hybrid in <5 years.

From all the reading I've done, it does seem like the Volt is one of the better options out there. The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV would be another option, but they aren't sold in North America yet. The C-Max Energi looks nice, has an amazing range, but also has quite a limited sized trunk. The Fusion Energi also looks decent, but is also quite a large vehicle. The BMW i3 has an amazing looking interior, but even with the gas range extender, has a reasonably limited range.

Ideally it'd be nice to have something with a 100 km electric range and another 500 km gas range. So far no one seems to offer something quite like that. Honestly, I think a minivan would be an interesting platform to work with. Tons of interior space and a huge floorpan to store batteries. Stuff a small gas engine up front for when running on gas-only mode.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 13:20

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yeah when I said a full dollar I wasn't trying to discredit the difference.

Where in Canada do you live?

Upshift > mr_gofast 06/13/2014 at 13:42

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all I can really say is I work at Tunney's Pasture. But cool!

Upshift > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 06/13/2014 at 13:43

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Didn't assume anything out of it. And in the Ottawa area.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 13:45

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bah would have been good if you lived in windsor.

"What's the purpose for the visit to the US?"

"....Shopping" lol

Upshift > BaconSandwich is tasty. 06/13/2014 at 13:46

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You know that Minivan idea is pretty brilliant.

Upshift > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 06/13/2014 at 13:49

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I laughed so hard at that bahahaha. Made my day!

mr_gofast > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 13:49

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i worked at TP at my last contract for HC. :)

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 13:53

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I honestly don't know why no one else has done it yet. You'd think Chrysler would be all over it, given their history of minivans.

Upshift > multiple wheels for each day of the week 06/13/2014 at 13:53

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but but.. I still end up paying a few THOUSAND dollars more a year than americans do for the same amount of driving :(

Upshift > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 06/13/2014 at 14:10

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It would be worth the trouble any day, every day.

multiple wheels for each day of the week > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 14:44

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But I pay Thousands more then you for healthcare .

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Upshift 06/13/2014 at 14:45

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lol

Customs official - how come I never see you come back with anything?

you - it's in the gas tank!

C.O. - STEP OUT OF THE CAR, SOMEONE TEAR THIS THING OPEN!

hahaha

Upshift > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 06/13/2014 at 21:08

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LOL. Epic.

Upshift > BaconSandwich is tasty. 06/13/2014 at 21:10

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Sadly automakers aren't always clever.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Upshift 06/14/2014 at 20:29

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I always find it surprising when a business completely screws up and makes the worst choice possible. Like Kodak knowing about digital photography, but not doing a thing about it until they were way too late to the game.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Upshift 06/16/2014 at 10:25

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never put that one past border patrol/customs lol