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"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390) 06/06/2014 at 16:49 • Filed to: Sad Day

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It !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , it keeps dying and dying I just don't know anymore...

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I'm all out if options now. I'd try a push start but I've got no one to push the car.

I put in the Seafoam and the engine won't idle long enough for it to take effect. Now it's just sitting in the tank..

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 16:53

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if you rev it will it stay running? about how many RPM do you have to hold to keep it running?

505Turbeaux > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 16:54

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how much gas was in it? I always seafoam it through a vacuum line right into the intake/TB at a high idle. Hit it with 1/3 the can, shut the motor down so it can soak, repeat till empty. Watch out for all of the crazy colors of smoke that will come out the back!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 06/06/2014 at 16:54

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I can;t get it to run even holding the revs..

CAR_IS_MI > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 16:55

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Well I am ignorant to seafoam so this may or may not work. I will forewarn you, I have done exactly zero research on what seafoam is, it's chemical makeup, or how it should be used.

That being said. Dry gas might help, or possibly an octane booster. But I would suggest carefully researching before doing anything as you have introduced a foreign chemical to the engine, how it will react on a chemical makup level is unknown to me.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > 505Turbeaux 06/06/2014 at 16:55

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1/2 tank was in it.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > CAR_IS_MI 06/06/2014 at 16:56

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I added octane booster(turbo 108) to the fuel tank about 2 hours before adding the Seafoam.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 16:57

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Checked your spark plugs? wires? distributor?

Big Bubba Ray > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 17:01

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When's the last time the car had a proper tune up? Just going off what I know about my Bug that I had, valve clearances, plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, and basic stuff like that should all be checked or replaced. It all can have a huge effect on if/how well the car runs.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 06/06/2014 at 17:02

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I tried cranking it repeatedly and there was a MASSIVE backfire that echoed like a freaking firecracker!! :O

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 17:06

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I'm really tempted, based on your videos and that description, to suggest you check your timing.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Big Bubba Ray 06/06/2014 at 17:07

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3 years ago. Spark plugs distributor and all.

Big Bubba Ray > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 17:12

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Check all that stuff again. It's all inexpensive stuff and even if they're just a little worn, it's probably best to replace them. Air cooled engines don't hold their tune very well so start small and think inexpensive before you do anything else.

Roberto G. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 17:22

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Spark plugs, distributor and all don't go with time, but with miles. For instance. I always replace my plugs every 12,000 miles, bar none.

505Turbeaux > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 17:22

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If it was running ok before the seafoam it isnt going to need a tune up or dizzy adjustment. I would hit it with a shot of starter fluid and see if it will go over on that.

Big Bubba Ray > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 06/06/2014 at 17:22

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Forgot about that one in my comment. Timing check is a must.

CAR_IS_MI > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 17:23

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Okay so Seafoam is petroleum based. Pure petroleum has a higher ignition point than the gas you normally run in your car, albeit, not by much. That being said:

1. Pull the spark plugs, verify they are not damaged, fuel and or oil soaked, and check the gaps on the plugs (it may be in your best interest just to change the plugs to new ones). You may also need / want to gap them down slightly to gain a small amount more of spark to run through the seafoam (Just re-gap to normal afterward otherwise you risk knocking!!!!)

2. Since you ran this through the fuel system and seafoam is meant to aid in the removal of "gunk", you may have inadvertently flushed something that was in the tank or fuel lines to somewhere it shouldn't be, blocking the proper flow of fuel. Replace your fuel filter (seriously, its not even worth attempting to check, just replace it). Check you r fuel pump for blockage (this may be your last step, or maybe not even your own, especially if these are in take pumps). Also, I suppose this is a carbeurated model? If so, carbs use 'jets; consisting of small holes to help atomize (not even close but...) fuel for the combustion process. If pre carb gunk is blocking some / all of the holes then the issue you are having would make sense as well.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Roberto G. 06/06/2014 at 17:24

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well it hasn't been driven more than 1000 miles since that tune-up

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > CAR_IS_MI 06/06/2014 at 17:29

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the car has CIS and I haven't a clue as to how to check anything in the engine. :(

CAR_IS_MI > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 17:44

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Here you can find a full service manual for that fuel system.

I would still start with spark. If I lived closer to you I would come over a lend a hand myself.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > CAR_IS_MI 06/06/2014 at 17:45

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#2 is good advice.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > 505Turbeaux 06/06/2014 at 17:55

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Fuel pressure regulator?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 19:19

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Hey man, spoke with my buddy who's a Porsche mechanic he says: "fuel pressure regulator is possible, and should be checked, but based on description of problems and progression of symptoms it sounds like a valve timing issue. Tensioner may be loose, this could cause bad cam timing and potentially skipped teeth, which leads to eventual valve bending." his suggestion is to check the valve timing before you continue trouble shooting to avoid possible valve damage. If you can find someone who has a fuel pressure gauge for K-jetronic you might try checking that, but it sounds like a chain issue. Sorry dude...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 06/06/2014 at 19:28

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It's better than nothing. Let's hope there isn't any significant damage in the engine and that it can be repaired soon. :(

Thanks for putting a word out there for me. :)

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 19:38

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He says "if the tensioner is bad it can cause the chain to have a lot of slop, this will fuck up timing and make it run like shit, but if you catch it before it actually skips teeth you're probably OK..."

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 06/06/2014 at 20:04

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hopefully it's not that bad. Did he say how much it'd be to fix?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 20:40

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He's offered his contact info for a phone consult if you want...

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/06/2014 at 22:06

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along with mrengineer and jawz I would recommend checking the fuel filter. My dad did that a few years ago same result.

Does it start and then cut out, or just sputter and cut out, or not turn over.

This year I kept having my engine issues after starting. It would start up fine, then after warming up a little would nearly stall. I would have to hold the RCA at 1500 for a minute till I could attempt to drive it. Turns out the boots had been loosening up after wArming up causing a vacuum leak. Change any vacuum lines that might have softened or loosened up?

thebigbossyboss > Big Bubba Ray 06/09/2014 at 08:08

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Plug wires....replacing those had such a big effect on my Ford Tempo. Before I replaced them the car ran like total garbage in the rain, it would turn off constantly and short and stall all the damn time.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 09/28/2014 at 14:23

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This is what I think the problem is! The damn thing is 40 years old!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 09/28/2014 at 14:27

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Hey! I've got a favor to ask of you if you don't mind? Could you ask your buddy exactly how the heck I remove the fuel pressure regulator?

I need to unscrew the hex screws on both sides but it won't budge, I've been dousing the thing in oil penetrating spray to no avail.