"Chaz Adams" (chazadams)
06/12/2014 at 13:42 • Filed to: Review, Oppolock, P4/5, P4/5C, Glickenhaus, SCG, Ferrari, FIA, Nurburgring
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"Chaz Adams" (chazadams)
06/12/2014 at 13:42 • Filed to: Review, Oppolock, P4/5, P4/5C, Glickenhaus, SCG, Ferrari, FIA, Nurburgring | 28
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What happens when you take a !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and build from it the most badass-looking endurance racing car on the planet? You get the P4/5C.
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Full disclosure:
I wanted to ride in the P4/5C so bad that I was an abnormally nice guy on the internet, and so lucked out in making friends with the right people. Also? I had pizza and Italian ice with Jim Glickenhaus.)
Before we go any further, let's make sure everyone here knows about the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . It's okay; go read while I wait. Everyone good now? The only real setup here is that I received an invite from my friend !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! to join him and !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! to film the P4/5C for a day. Thus our review begins.
Exterior: 10/10
It's a bare carbon fiber race car: duh. But that gives it a pretty awesome high-water mark to start. I could fault it for its panel gaps, but then again, that's makes this car so incredible to me. It is not some silky-smooth piece of art; it is a living, breathing, demonstrably powerful race car that you just happen to be able to drive on the road.
Interior: 9/10
Look at those switches, folks. JUST LOOK AT THEM! I wanted to touch them all, but did not, because I had a !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! at my feet, and do not wish to die.
Despite being a race car at its core, there are a few creature comforts in the cockpit: A/C, Bluetooth, backup camera, and a mount for an iPad mini for navigation needs (More on those specific needs later). As a 6'1" human being, it was a tad cramped in the car, but not that bad. What's more, unlike other race/performance cars, like Porsche GT2, a five point harness feels right at home in this car.
Performance: 8/10
My ride in the P4/5C was brief, but there were a few key take-aways here.
Most race cars sound like they are fundamentally broken when traveling at legal/"normal" speeds. The P4/5C's gearbox makes plenty of loud clanks and bangs as you chug along at slow speeds, but the shifts themselves are not overly violent. The brakes, too, generate notable noise, but again nothing ear-shattering as the car eases through dense neighborhoods.
As we blast around a reservoir in downstate New York, I cannot help but notice how easy the car is to handle for Jim. The steering seems to be plenty light. While I was expecting a spine-shaking ride along rough, weathered roads in the low-slung P4/5C, it fares no worse than any other exotic on the roads here. You feel the mechanical thrust and soul in the seats, but I never quite felt a wincing discomfort, even upon dipping into potholes. As Jim and the car's engineers pointed out, this car is set up for !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . Between the carousel turns and the unforgiving changes in track surface, you cannot afford an overly stiff setup.
Earlier I mentioned navigational "needs," so let's loop back to that. While the car may ride pretty well and the steering may be light, you are still driving a race car on a public road; you are limited as to which roads and turns you can take. While filming a longer trip for !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , the crew and I needed to be much more conscious of the roads we were headed down, and the availability of areas to turn around. Despite having a fairly large glass canopy and a backup camera onboard, visibility is pretty tricky in a car like this. That, and the engine cooling for road speeds is still being tweaked, so long stops are best avoided.
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Audio: 9/10
This score is not based on the exhaust note alone, but more the complete audio package. The exhaust note is fairly tame, no fire and brimstone here. What good is a road car that makes everyone deaf? That being said, it might still set off every car alarm nearby. What really makes this car great in the audio department is the combination of engine, brakes, and gearbox. Being in a machine like this opens up your ears to what an engine does, what the road sounds like at high speed, what makes a car race.
Value: 10/10
I am sure (this being the web) there are plenty of people that question the worthiness of someone embarking on a project like this; to those persons, I suggest reading !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! instead. This car is a true masterpiece. The work Jim and crew are doing to develop a brand new car for endurance racing is inspirational and fascinating. It is a shame more folks are not taking the risks that Jim has taken with projects like this. The P4/5C is truly something new, special, and exhilarating, and that is why we make race cars.
EL_ULY
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 13:52 |
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maximum jealousy! I had no idea it had KERS
macanamera
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 13:53 |
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8/10 performance?
YSI-what can brown do for you
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 13:55 |
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I thought it was based off an Enzo?
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Chaz Adams
> macanamera
06/12/2014 at 13:55 |
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As I noted it was not the longest ride and the car is still undergoing plenty of tweaks to make it better and better on the road.
asbsvc
> EL_ULY
06/12/2014 at 13:55 |
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Dude the competizione.... Next to all of that awful, soulless, horrendous, beige one encounters on these roads...
Viggen
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 13:56 |
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So the P4/5C is street legal because of it's 430 origins? That's awesome!
waveridin1959
> EL_ULY
06/12/2014 at 13:56 |
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We are indeed Not Worthy.
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Chaz Adams
> YSI-what can brown do for you
06/12/2014 at 13:56 |
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The "regular" P4/5 is. (It was just finishing up its 10k service while I was there) This car though is based on the 430 Scuderia
supercooper123
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 13:57 |
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awesome car but isnt it based on the enzo?
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waveridin1959
> YSI-what can brown do for you
06/12/2014 at 13:58 |
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I think the other one he has was based on a Ferrari Enzo. That Ferrari Built. The Ferrari P4/5 by Pininfarina.
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YSI-what can brown do for you
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:00 |
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Ah okay, that clarifies a lot! Although it would have been awesome if this had a V12!
Gamblour
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:02 |
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Where were you guys driving the car? I work in Rye and see Glickenhaus pretty regularly (spoke to him on several occasions, super nice guy). I have also seen him at the Monticello Motor Club (was a marshal there for several years). So do tell, where can we spot this black beast?
Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> YSI-what can brown do for you
06/12/2014 at 14:04 |
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thats the other p4/5. This is specifically the p4/5 competizione. This enzo based one has been its blessing by Ferrari to be a Ferrari. Ferrari didn't like this one so they threatened to sue and glickrnhaus pryed the Ferrari emble on with a screw driver and the hole is still supposedly there. Any truth?
Bret
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:21 |
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Swoon!
Squad41
> YSI-what can brown do for you
06/12/2014 at 14:22 |
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No-no. This IS awesome.
Johnnie P. Wood
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:34 |
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Start working at home with Google! It's by-far the best job I've had. Last Wednesday I got a brand new BMW since getting a check for $6474 this - 4 weeks past. I began this 8-months ago and immediately was bringing home at least $77 per hour. I work through this link, go to tech tab for work detail
Betand
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:37 |
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last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My neighbour's sister has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out.
This is what I do,,,,,,,,,,
AlexioFlexio
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:39 |
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the coolest part to me in following Jim on facebook, is being able to see how he does his own modifications. for example, he added a whole tv/camera setup in the center console on the P4/5, which looks absolutely stock. His mechanics can not only do full engine out services, but also function are their own "exclusive" shop to perform any crazy mods they want. very cool to follow.
of all the work he does on p4/5 and p4/5c though, what he does on chassis 0486 is truly spectacular.
can't wait to see what his super secret next sports car design is.. unveiling is supposed to be soon
mrmcqeen21
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:46 |
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My god that car is glorious. Seeing how tight the cockpit is with you two in it, I don't think my large framed 6'5 self could get in there, but I'd love to just look at it for an hour. Also, we need video!
Himent
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:52 |
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last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My neighbour's sister has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out.
This is what I do,,,,,,,,,,
Roberto G.
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 14:57 |
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Why?... Autoblopnik is funny....
Vin
> EL_ULY
06/12/2014 at 14:59 |
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Same. Reading that line resulted in a double-take/Scooby Doo " Huh ?" combo breaker.
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EL_ULY
> Vin
06/12/2014 at 15:01 |
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It must be a blast being able to use that
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Vin
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 15:03 |
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11/10 would sleep next to it in the garage.
Sidebar: Can Glickenhaus join Matt Farah and Jay Leno in the American Top Gear remake? With Chris Harris as our Stig?
Please?
365Daytonafan
> Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
06/12/2014 at 15:25 |
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IIRC Ferrari didn't threaten to sue but refused to supply parts or any other support.
Gene Sanchez
> Gamblour
06/12/2014 at 15:32 |
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Cross River and Brewster and it's home.
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Gamblour
> Gene Sanchez
06/12/2014 at 15:38 |
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Damn, I live right by Cross River! Bummer. Wrong place, wrong time for me I guess. But he lives in Rye and I see him around town quite often, so hopefully this monster shows itself once in a while. Thx man!
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Whortiven57
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 16:44 |
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last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My neighbour's sister has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out.
This is what I do,,,,,,,,,,
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flyn09
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 17:10 |
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Chaz—are you into car audio? I'm actually networking right now to get a bunch of contacts whose cars I can record to put together a demo and get my ass into recording for all of the car video games people play. I'd be very interested to pick your brain and your rolodex. I am located in the tri-state area, only reason I'm asking you. Let me know!
Autoblopnik
> Chaz Adams
06/12/2014 at 18:37 |
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>people that question the worthiness of someone embarking on a project like this; to those persons, I suggest reading Autoblopnik instead.
Er, what are you trying to say?
Fred (FreddsterExprs)
> Vin
06/12/2014 at 18:53 |
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Glickenhaus, Mike Musto and Leno would be my personal lineup for a proper Top Gear USA.
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Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> 365Daytonafan
06/13/2014 at 05:03 |
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So they orphaned they son with to much plastic surgery
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Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> 365Daytonafan
06/13/2014 at 07:55 |
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Wait No!!! It went under "Fender" Reassignment!!! I fucking kill, I fucking kill.
(see 7am show is never the same as the 5am show)
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Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> Chaz Adams
06/13/2014 at 08:03 |
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Ferrari are fundamentalists when it comes to their automobiles, worshiping at the teat of The Holy Church of Sergio Macrchionne ever Sunday. Actually... No, not really. But it sounded to good not to type it. What I actually came here today to tell you is that Ferrari are, in fact, fundamentalist automotive douchebags. In fact they even disowned one of their own daughters (see above) for undergoing a"Fender" Reassignment Process.
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Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> YSI-what can brown do for you
06/13/2014 at 08:04 |
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Ferrari are fundamentalists when it comes to their automobiles, worshiping at the teat of The Holy Church of Sergio Macrchionne ever Sunday. Actually... No, not really. But it sounded to good not to type it. What I actually came here today to talk to you today is that Ferrari are, in fact, fundamentalist automotive douchebags. In fact they even disowned one of their own daughters (see above) for undergoing a"Fender" Reassignment Process.
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Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> Fred (FreddsterExprs)
06/13/2014 at 08:06 |
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Man, I am like the possibilities of the /DRIVE crew. Whats wrong with Nationalizing Chris Harris (except for the fact he would never do it.)
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Fred (FreddsterExprs)
> Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
06/13/2014 at 08:18 |
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Harris would be epic, but I think he would be the one to lead a replacement crew for TG UK.
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Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> Fred (FreddsterExprs)
06/13/2014 at 08:24 |
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oh no doubt. That is what /DRIVE is for... practice. SPINELLI IS MAY in all the same ways EINHORN IS FINKLE.
... well... wait.... not all, ummmm....yeah I didn't mean that.
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Chaz Adams
> Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
06/13/2014 at 09:43 |
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Well then you should love this piece since its about a guy that got into a spat a few times with Ferrari about whether the car could carry a Ferrari badge or not! (Neither P4/5 does btw)
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Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> Chaz Adams
06/13/2014 at 09:45 |
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that was the fender reassignment joke, dude.
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Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> Chaz Adams
06/13/2014 at 09:48 |
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The p4/5 based on the enzo may not have the ferrari badge but ferrari gave it its pleasing to call it a ferrari. So according to Ferrari, it is still a Ferrari, while according to Ferrari, the Comp. isn't a Ferrari, so it isn't a Ferrari.
Ferrari gave go fuck themselves personally with their La Ferrari.
P4/5 = Most beautiful car ever made, with qualification.
CBRacing
> Gamblour
06/13/2014 at 14:37 |
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I live in South Salem, and he actually lives in Armonk. I've seen his regular P 4/5 on 684 more than once
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Gamblour
> CBRacing
06/13/2014 at 14:47 |
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Maybe he's get another place in Rye - or sold it and moved - because he's always at the Rye Metro North station (his Alfa 8C is hard to miss, especially with the vanity plate ). But hey, either way he's one of us! Hopefully he does live in Armonk; closer to home for me.
Manuél Ferrari
> Chaz Adams
06/13/2014 at 20:53 |
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Your description of the audio was awesome.
I found a cheap hack for those of us that don't have track focused versions of road cars. If you have fold down rear seats then leave them folded down whenever you can. You can hear the exhaust better and sometimes hear the rear suspension at work.
