"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
05/23/2014 at 15:01 • Filed to: None
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"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
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Well, carbureted turbo V8 with water/methanol injection anyway. A "how it works" bit from Hot Rod magazine in '62 after the jump.
Jedidiah
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/23/2014 at 15:07 |
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These are so rare. When you do manage to find one, the turbo is all seized up because they were driven by little old ladies who never drove it fast enough to realize that the turbo wasn't working.
Those aluminum 215s didn't hold up to time well either.
Post more stuff like this. Oppo needs more Oldsmobile.
Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
> Jedidiah
05/23/2014 at 15:11 |
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Makes me wonder if it's a good idea to lowball if it's a little old lady out of fear of finding/fixing the turbo...
Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
> Jedidiah
05/23/2014 at 15:13 |
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Also alot of people complained so Olds offered to take back all the cars and put in a bigger V8 that was N/A.
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Jedidiah
05/23/2014 at 15:15 |
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I've heard they had metering issues with the fluid as well, and also tended to crack the fluid containers (poor pressure relief). Either of which being a good way to trash the system, particularly with that primitive turbo doing better with cooling and corrosion protection.
The Pontiac and Buick versions of the 215 held up okay for the most part, as did the non-turbo Olds, but it's no surprise the failure-prone cast-in-place liner gimmick was abandoned by GM (and replaced with machining by Rover).
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Jedidiah
> Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
05/23/2014 at 15:21 |
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I haven't seen an Oldsmobile with the turbo 215 in years. They were methanol injected for a reason; they had 10.25:1 compression and were not intercooled. I doubt they could run on a crappy modern grade of gas anyway. Old antifreeze wasn't kind the porous 1960s aluminum either; they corroded easily. I've seen a couple of buicks with the NA 215. One was at a junkyard, but it got crushed before I could save it. If you could find and Olds that had been taken well of, you could retrofit an intercooler for it. I would like to own one of these, but it seems like you can never find the right one.
Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast.
> Jedidiah
05/23/2014 at 15:39 |
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I agree. have a 442
Racescort666
> Jedidiah
05/23/2014 at 15:50 |
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The methanol injection is actually 2 fold. 1 it increases the octane rating of whatever fuel you're using. 2 the evaporation of the methanol in the manifold dramatically reduces the intake charge temperature. Water has the same latter effect.
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Jedidiah
> Racescort666
05/23/2014 at 16:03 |
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The bottles of methanol that were made for this car said "Turbo Rocket Fluid" on them. I don't know how effective the 215's methanol injection system was, but even my low compression NA Olds 350 doesn't like the gas they sell around here. If the effect is dramatic like you are describing, then maybe the cars might still be able run on pump gas. I would like to know, but owners of these Jetfires are few and far between and I can't afford/find one to buy.
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Jedidiah
> Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast.
05/23/2014 at 16:05 |
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Is that yours? Damn, it's nice. I have a '72 Cutlass Supreme. I really want an OAI hood liket that, but I have no money.
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Racescort666
> Jedidiah
05/23/2014 at 16:15 |
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Without knowing exactly what they were using, it's hard to say. From what's been said so far: non-intercooled, turbo, suck-through carb, 10.25:1 CR, old, equipped with water/methanol injection from the factory; I wouldn't be surprised if one blew up from running out of methanol.
It would be possible to run one on modern gas. If they were supposed to run on leaded gas, it makes a difference. But barring that and with some creative tuning, you could probably get one to run on 93. I would absolutely run water injection at the very least though. Turbos add a shitload of heat.