"Tom McParland" (tommcparland)
05/12/2014 at 10:21 • Filed to: VW, TDI, DSG
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"Tom McParland" (tommcparland)
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At the Vienna Motor Symposium, VW boss Hans-Jakob Neusser revealed that a 10 speed DSG is due to debut with the 2015 Passat. The transmission can reportedly handle up to 368 ft/lbs of torque and be mounted in either longitudinal or transverse engines. The new gearbox will replace the current 6-speed DSG with the increase in ratios to double digits in the name of more MPGs.
Also coming soon is a new 2.0 liter twin-turbo TDI motor making upwards of 235 hp. No word on torque figures.
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I'm pretty excited about the TDI motor, especially if it makes its way into a 4Motion Sportwagen. However a 10 speed DSG seems like too many gears? How many times do you want to pull those paddles?
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duurtlang
> Tom McParland
05/12/2014 at 10:40 |
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Given the location of the reveal I assume this transmission will be optional in the upcoming new European Passat. The engine too, as the European market demands a wide range of diesel engines in a car like the Passat. The US Passat is entirely different and only one diesel option is seen as almost groundbreaking already in the US, so I'm curious if this transmission and engine will find their way across the pond.
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> Tom McParland
05/12/2014 at 10:40 |
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If it has multiple OD's it may actually be more of 7-8 speed gearbox, because I doubt you'd have much of a need to row your own once it comes to those higher gears. But at the end of the day that still sounds like a lot of gears to deal with, haha.
Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2
> Tom McParland
05/12/2014 at 12:06 |
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10!?! You're just adding weight at that point. 5 or 6 with a nice overdrive should suffice.
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Tom McParland
> Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2
05/12/2014 at 12:08 |
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Yeah, the ZF 8-speed is a fine gearbox and would imagine if paired with a good diesel would deliver serious MPGs
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> Tom McParland
05/12/2014 at 13:49 |
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It does on a whole range of BMWs - actually the entire range now that I think of it as they're all available with a diesel/8 speed combination.
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> Tom McParland
05/12/2014 at 13:55 |
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Ten gears? Pah. Volvo (the real Swedish Volvo, not the Chinese owned car maker) are developing a twin clutch box for their trucks which will presumably have more than ten gears. They don't actually say how many but their present manual and automated manual ones start at 12.
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Tom McParland
> Cé hé sin
05/12/2014 at 13:57 |
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In commercial trucks I understand, for passenger cars it seems excessive
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> Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2
05/12/2014 at 14:01 |
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Not necessarily. If you have an engine with a relatively narrow power band - and diesels are like this - then you want a wide range of gears.
Plus there's the "mine is bigger than yours" mentality with Merc going for 9 and ,many others for 8.
If you use this many gears you don't necessarily have ten separate sets of gears, you can combine them. I read - or tried to read - a description of ZF's new 9 speed and as far as I can make out it works like that.
AMDX1325
> Tom McParland
05/20/2014 at 15:20 |
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10 speed...but why?????? more gears more to go wrong, more gear switches more clutch wear...this doesn't make sense!