Update on the firehose through the window BMW

"505Turbeaux" (505turbeaux) 04/11/2014 at 13:39 • Filed to: None

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2 days old. And the guy was mad. Asshat

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offroadkarter > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:43

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A toyota caused the fire?

Of course

Sir Halffast > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:44

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Well, he can go fuck himself with a fire hose. 14 people are homeless because he's a thoughtless twat.

505Turbeaux > Sir Halffast 04/11/2014 at 13:44

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exactly. What a prick

OtherBarry > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:45

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If they had the time they could have cut it in half with the jaws of life. Could have been worse for the asshat. I hope his insurance doesn't cover it.

HammerheadFistpunch > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:46

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""I wanted to cry for him," Henriquez said. "Of course he brought that on himself.""

Edit: why is no one talking about the 2GR-FE that burst into flames?

Wave Motion Gun > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:48

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Stereotypical BMW driver is stereotypical.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:48

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I feel like it should be larger than a $100 fine. I mean I know he has the cost of fixing a dent and replacing windows and it's BMW so what's that $9,000? lol.

But really, a $100 and it could have prevented putting out a fire, it's just ridiculous.

Frank Grimes > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:49

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I understand how stupid and illegal it is to park in front of a hydrant but surely there is a solution that doesnt involve thousands of dollars of damage to a car.

Why doesnt the fire department have some portable kind of jack or lift and put the car on two rollers and push it out of the way? Boot the thing and make the owner pay a huge fine like $500 or something.

CAR_IS_MI > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:49

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So you illegally parked your brand new car in front of a hydrant, then a fire broke out where the rescue crews needed to use that hydrant, forcing them to physically pick up and move your car off the curb and break your windows so they could access the hydrant to extinguish the fires, and your mad??? If I were one of the home owners whos house was destroyed I would hire a good lawyer and sue you for impeding the fire crews, my house could have been saved if you hadn't been so self centered to park in front of and damn near on top of a fire hydrant.

505Turbeaux > CAR_IS_MI 04/11/2014 at 13:50

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yup!

Manuél Ferrari > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:51

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Can I have the car's engine?

505Turbeaux > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 13:51

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if it was fully engulfed that may have been an option, but they were playing with short time there

Jagvar > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:52

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Here's an idea: don't park in front of fire hydrants.

505Turbeaux > Jagvar 04/11/2014 at 13:52

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WOW! Common sense!

Audi-os, amigos > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:53

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Residents say the owner of the BMW drove it away with two broken windows and a big dent on the side.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha and his pride in a handbasket.

Team6.1 > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:54

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Is it just me or does $100 seem like not enough? I guess as a normal parking infraction, and this doesn't happen everyday, but since they actually needs the hydrant I think the fine should go up. I hope they put a coupleast extra dents in

Frank Grimes > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:55

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Yeah I get that. But it would take like a few more seconds to get the jack out of the truck. Find a place to put it under the car and lift it up with some pneumatic action while two fire men push it away from the hydrant.

505Turbeaux > Audi-os, amigos 04/11/2014 at 13:55

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I want a picture of that, surely it exists

Takuro Spirit > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:55

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Maybe they wanted to play Backdraft

(sorry, couldn't find a better quality. LOL that its also a german vehicle getting smashed)

505Turbeaux > Team6.1 04/11/2014 at 13:56

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haha doesnt look like they wasted much time . Pretty hefty one behind the door there

505Turbeaux > Takuro Spirit 04/11/2014 at 13:58

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dude, good pull. I cannot believe a bootlegged backdraft exists on youtube

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:58

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This fuckstick got everything he deserved. FUCK him, they should have torched the car afterwards.

Jon-o > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:58

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at least it was only a 328i

CAR_IS_MI > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 13:59

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The sheer size and weight of a portable jack that could properly lift and move a whole vehicle would be insane. Besides the fact that Fire trucks are already packed to the brim with fire fighting tools, the last thing they need to do is play parking lot as well. This guy was apparently so close to the curb that they could barely get the hose on the hydrant, if they were to try and bend the hose around the car it would have so many kinks that they would be better trying to battle the blaze with a garden hose.

Add in the fact that this fire had, by that point in time, engulfed three houses, and multiple departments were on site, this guy had ample time to realize that he had been parked in front of a hydrant and move his precious car. IMO he got of easy for being a dumbass.

user314 > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 13:59

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Because doing all that (if it's even possible) takes time , and time is not something firefighters have to spare.

Personally, they could have given it the Judge Dredd treatment and I'd be perfectly okay with it.

Axel-Ripper > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 13:59

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The other option would have been pushing it out of the way with the fire truck, but then they'd have to polish the scratches out of the truck's bumper.

(BTW, if this comes out as sarcastic, it isn't. I know many fire fighters. Scratching the truck is a big deal)

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 14:00

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I really don't think it should be the fire departments responsibility to buy and expensive jack and train fire fighters how to use it. Just don't park in front of a hydrant.

CAR_IS_MI > Team6.1 04/11/2014 at 14:00

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Right, I got a $360 fine for rolling through a stop sign, this guy gets $100 for illegally parking and blocking a fire hydrant during an emergency.

user314 > CAR_IS_MI 04/11/2014 at 14:00

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If I were a lawyer, I'd take the case pro bono.

Takuro Spirit > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 14:00

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One of the few movies I had on VHS that have not been replaced by DVD/Netflix. Need to rectify that. Great movie.

505Turbeaux > Takuro Spirit 04/11/2014 at 14:01

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it really was. What was that, 90-91?

Takuro Spirit > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 14:02

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Sounds right. I remember piling in the back of my cousin's Talon while on vacation and riding into town to see it opening weekend. I was about 11 or 12 so, yeah.

505Turbeaux > Takuro Spirit 04/11/2014 at 14:04

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yup, my age then. Funny

Frank Grimes > CAR_IS_MI 04/11/2014 at 14:04

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this weighs like 50 pounds total.

CAR_IS_MI > Axel-Ripper 04/11/2014 at 14:05

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The Chief would have your ass if you scratch the truck. If you fuck up the gold leaf your done.

Frank Grimes > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 04/11/2014 at 14:05

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how much training does it take you to learn one of these?

CAR_IS_MI > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 14:06

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And not stable or safe enough to move a 4,000 lbs car.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 14:09

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I don't disagree that its easy. But government bureaucracy, OSHA, unions etc make things more complicated than they need to be. Again I think you are getting the burden of action backwards hear. First responders should take the easiest and cheapest way out.

Frank Grimes > user314 04/11/2014 at 14:10

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I understand time is precious. and it is possible. How long does it take to smash two windows realize there was a kink in the hose still then get a bunch of firemen to lift the car to move it a bit so the hose wasnt kinked?

Frank Grimes > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 04/11/2014 at 14:14

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I dont think the cheapest and easiest way or the fastest was to smash two windows run the hose through the car hook up the hose and then realize it was kinked and gather some guys around to lift the car away then unkink the hose.

Frank Grimes > CAR_IS_MI 04/11/2014 at 14:17

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CAR_IS_MI > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 14:18

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I only see 50% of the car lifted, and would not trust that on tiny wheels.

Frank Grimes > CAR_IS_MI 04/11/2014 at 14:20

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lift the car and put it on the dollys push the car away. its done all the time all day long.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 14:23

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Good point, but I think smashing the windows generally works pretty well. I'm no expert, though. I'd love to get an opinion from a firefighter.

CAR_IS_MI > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 14:24

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But the issue at hand is time. Time to break window with the spring loaded glass punch <3 seconds. Time to lift a car, align 4 dollies, and then push it safely out of the way > 2 minutes. When peoples homes and lives are on the line, responders can not and should not have to waste their time moving your car because you couldn't be bothered to properly park it in the first place.

user314 > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 14:25

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All told, maybe a minute.

How long would it take to jack up one side of the car, slide in the rollers, jack the car onto the rollers, move the jacks, and repeat for the other side? Just remember while the firefighters are farting around with this Rube Goldberg shit, people's lives are at stake .

Seriously, you have way more compassion for this asshole than you should. He broke the law, and in doing so endangered people. Fuck 'im.

Frank Grimes > user314 04/11/2014 at 14:31

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Rube goldberg? as in the those crazy machines? you are comparing a complicated machine to putting a jack under a car and lifitng it up and lowering it down again? have you ever lifted a car onto dollys it takes like 30 seconds if you are very slow.
I dont have a much compassion on him as you think I do. I think moving the car away right from the start would take less time and less effort. I think from the very start the very root of the problem is idiots parking in front of fire hydrants whether they are marked or not is incredibly stupid a selfish.

jvirgs drives a Subaru > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 14:41

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2 days old and a dent like that?

user314 > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 14:49

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Well, trained firefighters disagree with you.

shittygood > 505Turbeaux 04/11/2014 at 14:54

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This was up the street from my apartment. The dent is from when they pressurized the pump. I was there when they were trying to slide it over so the hose could get straight:

there was definitely talk of a non-tabacco smoking device, and I saw a fairly grimy gatorade bottle in the cup holder that might or might not have resembled said smoking device. I'll let you guys use your imagination.

505Turbeaux > shittygood 04/11/2014 at 15:00

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wow that dent is hardcore from that angle.

Frank Grimes > user314 04/11/2014 at 15:05

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Where are these firefighters?

user314 > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 15:30

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Here's one , for starters.

Frank Grimes > user314 04/11/2014 at 15:34

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So how long does it take to do that window breaking hooking up the hose procedure and have it fail because its kinked anyways and then have to lift the car out of the way with a bunch fire fighters?

crowmolly > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 15:53

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In my opinion $500 is a slap on the wrist.

Seconds matter. I worked at a fire safety lab running tests and stuff can go from mild-moderate to nasty in seconds. This was an eight alarm fire and chances are the blaze was endangering other buildings in the area as well. That's also not taking into account any personal injury or danger that may be going on.

Being nice or careful is not a concern for the FD.

Frank Grimes > crowmolly 04/11/2014 at 15:54

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They had to move the car anyways.

crowmolly > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 15:56

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By hand, yeah, as breaking the windows and sending the hose through was still not enough.

Note that they tried to do without moving the car first and then did it when they had to.

Frank Grimes > crowmolly 04/11/2014 at 16:04

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yeah my point is if you pull up to a hydrant and there is a car there it might be faster to just move it out of the way

crowmolly > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 16:09

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I get that part. :)

I think they have to act in the best interest of what they are trying to save and that involves taking the shortest path to solve a problem. Moving the car completely out of the way would take more time than breaking out the windows and bumping it forward.

Frank Grimes > crowmolly 04/11/2014 at 16:15

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I understand that as well. My argument is a weak one when a fire is going who give a crap about a car?! But once I read they had to move the car anyways and how fast the air bag jacks are I thought maybe it might be best to just move a car and not have to destroy it.
The car is no longer a problem at all and the time saved from breaking windows and unkinking the hose and the time it took to think about moving the car and then doing it it might be faster to just move it from the get go.

crowmolly > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 16:23

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I dunno. I don't know how fast they could realistically move the car out of the way vs. doing what they did, and if it is faster, if the cost to implement and keep up with said solution is appropriate given how uncommon this exact type of situation is.

user314 > Frank Grimes 04/11/2014 at 18:21

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The point you keep missing is they are fire fighters, not a fucking NASCAR pit crew. It's not their job to move some self-centered jagoff's car.

Frank Grimes > user314 04/11/2014 at 19:28

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The point you keep missing is you dont know eveything and apparently still cannot comprehend how easy and quick it is to move a car. Whether it is their job or not is not the issue the issue is having quick access to the hydrant which thier solution seemed to cause a problem in having to eventually move the car anyway.